Jedi knight Luke question

So how do we refer to the stat numbers before mods? Everyone has always referred to the unmodded stats as "base stats." That is even the way they are referenced on swgoh.gg as well. Jedi Luke was literally the first time I ever heard anyone call the post mod stats at the stary of battle the "base stats."

Yeah it is a really odd choice to call his stats after mods his base.

"Amrael;c-2167605" wrote:
So how do we refer to the stat numbers before mods? Everyone has always referred to the unmodded stats as "base stats." That is even the way they are referenced on swgoh.gg as well. Jedi Luke was literally the first time I ever heard anyone call the post mod stats at the stary of battle the "base stats."

Base stats for a toon as seen on SWGOH are not the base stats of a toon entering a battle.

Base stats for a toon in battle have always been with mods, at the start of a battle before any other buffs/debuffs apply.

What do you call the stats a character gets from being level 85 and g13?

"yankeeh8er;c-2167895" wrote:
What do you call the stats a character gets from being level 85 and g13?

Not sure who you are asking, but any in game reference to "base stats" is the same and always has been the character stats with mods at the beginning of a battle before buffs/debuffs, leads and uniques are applied.

"Kyno;c-2167918" wrote:

"yankeeh8er;c-2167895" wrote:
What do you call the stats a character gets from being level 85 and g13?

Not sure who you are asking, but any in game reference to "base stats" is the same and always has been the character stats with mods at the beginning of a battle before buffs/debuffs, leads and uniques are applied.

If base stats are stats with mods what are stats without mods? It is so weird to me that my jkl has different base stats then everyone else's.

The description should be “base stats at start of battle” which would make the stats with mods more intuitive imo

"Gifafi;c-2168004" wrote:
The description should be “base stats at start of battle” which would make the stats with mods more intuitive imo

True, but they have never had base X mean anything else when it's been used in the game.

"yankeeh8er;c-2167938" wrote:

"Kyno;c-2167918" wrote:

"yankeeh8er;c-2167895" wrote:
What do you call the stats a character gets from being level 85 and g13?

Not sure who you are asking, but any in game reference to "base stats" is the same and always has been the character stats with mods at the beginning of a battle before buffs/debuffs, leads and uniques are applied.

If base stats are stats with mods what are stats without mods? It is so weird to me that my jkl has different base stats then everyone else's.

The characters stats.

Not sure why that's weird, any character that has a reference to base stats uses different values for every player, unless they have the same mod value.

"Kyno;c-2168008" wrote:

"yankeeh8er;c-2167938" wrote:

"Kyno;c-2167918" wrote:

"yankeeh8er;c-2167895" wrote:
What do you call the stats a character gets from being level 85 and g13?

Not sure who you are asking, but any in game reference to "base stats" is the same and always has been the character stats with mods at the beginning of a battle before buffs/debuffs, leads and uniques are applied.

If base stats are stats with mods what are stats without mods? It is so weird to me that my jkl has different base stats then everyone else's.

The characters stats.

Not sure why that's weird, any character that has a reference to base stats uses different values for every player, unless they have the same mod value.

Thanks clarifying the difference between “character stats” and “base stats”. It seems pretty obvious now but I have to admit I initially understood them to be the same. This is because “base speed” was unfamiliar and I interpreted “base” to mean “unmodified”. Since mods obviously modify stats, I concluded base stats referred to the character stats. I can see why using JKL’s character stat for his lead would be undesirable; it would be OP on the one hand and entirely predictable on the other. Thanks again.