Negotiator dominates fleet arena

Be careful what you wish for, you might not like what you get.

On my shard we only have 3 negotiators (including mine). I ran mine yesterday and climbed to first pretty easily. I had 4 wins and 1 time out (but that was mostly me being slower due to being less familiar with the new kit.

Considering I'm easily beating ackbar teams with 100k more power and holding about the same (dropped to about 16) I think it is much wiser to focus on negotiator. For 2 reasons.

1. It will likely be the new meta and if you just keep building your ackbar fleet, you'll keep up for awile but eventually hit the point of kosing anyway.


2. The pilots are easier to gear and more useful. So many rebel ships require 3 pilots and only semi useful characters. I use anakin, fives, and ht as my starting lineup with plo, ahsoka, and ebon hawk as reinforcements (at least for now). That makes the only pilots to gear that aren't really that good elsewhere a s just plo and t3. And both have some uses elsewhere.

For the ackbar fleet you have the full pheonix squd minus ezra that you need geared but aren't that good. 3 to 6 rogue one characters depending on what u wings you use. And biggs and wedge. And of course ackbar himself. So potentially 12 to 15 so so characters to max ackbar vs 2 for negotiator. And with reworks that 2 could become less.

Dont forget the malevolence :P

"Ultra;c-1971235" wrote:
Negotiator is definitely a good capital ship but at 5 stars it’s beatable by the current meta

Like Darth Revan, it needs a Malak of it’s own to completely eliminate Ackbar meta

Does it have to be completely eliminated though? I really like the status quo where the two fleets can beat each other, but not with 100% certainty if they're equally matched. Same for squad arena. It would be great if Padme, GG and clones held a little better on defense, but not to the point where one maxed r7 squad can permanently sit on rank 1. I think Loincloth Magneto is an abomination and had better be a one-off mistake.

I actually like that negotiator doesn’t dominate the fleet meta overwhelmingly and I’m happy it’s not like the state of squad arena pre-relics

*counts GEC2 obsessively and continues hoarding for Malevolence*

yesssss, precious, it will be ours

Negotiator is definitely a good capital ship but at 5 stars it’s beatable by the current meta

Like Darth Revan, it needs a Malak of it’s own to completely eliminate Ackbar meta

"Ultra;c-1971235" wrote:

Like Darth Revan, it needs a Malak of it’s own to completely eliminate Ackbar meta

Or just 2 more stars. 5* Negotiator with well geared pilots already pushes non-Bistan Falcon fleets to the limit.

I dont recall anyone saying it's not good, just that it is beatable.

It is almost a direct counter kit to the current meta and can do fine right now, but it needs very good pilots right now due to low star. At 7* it will take over, no doubt.

As ultra said too, it seems to be an "almost complete" team and feels like it will be rounded out at some point.

"DarkHelmet1138;c-1971307" wrote:
I think it is much wiser to focus on negotiator.

Very wise advice indeed. Sadly most of playerbase can't follow it for obvious reasons, and most of those who can probably won't be able to max it until next meta shift anyway.