Hey guys, especially made this account for this topic.In the very beginning I simply ran my best toons in the Arena, but that quickly became very difficult to win, so I then followed every good advice I got: farm Phoenix like crazy.Now I'm at lvl 78 and run a full 7 star Phoenix team (except that wretched Sabine) equipped up to my lvl.At first I began to win again and climbed up to rank 500 again, but lately I can't seem to win any battles anymore. All I encounter are teams with (a lot) more force points than myself, full Sith teams with Palpatines or teams with either Old Ben, Chirrut, Kylo Ren Unmasked or other pests. I Always try to avoid those. Even the Nightsister teams that I used to crush have now become very hard.Am I doing something wrong? Everyone keeps shouting Phoenix, but every team I come across seems to hard. I also heard something about "harder" and "easier" Arena groups? A friend of mine keeps hovering in the top 100, while his team has never been as good as mine. I never got to rank 400 before.

7* Phoenix team, that can't stay in top—500? That sounds like your team is either under—geared or poorly modded. Even though Phoenix can't compete in end—game top arena, they should still be able to do better than rank 500. How is your gear and mods compared to your opponents? Make sure that your guild raids often and do heroic tier raids (at least heroic pit raids — preferably heroic tank raids as well) to get gear. And if your mods are lacking you should spend some ressources farming/buying better mods. Good mods are a huge advantage over mediocre mods.However, even with good gear and mods Phoenix will struggle against several team compositions, f.ex.:Phoenix will make the eneny Vader ridiculously fast since they are 5 rebels and 2 jedi. You will struggle against EP lead Vader (Sith/empire) teams.Phoenix don't have enough debuffs/AoE to handle NS teams.You won't ever be able to just have a single arena team and stay in top forever. The META changes, and you need to change with it, if you want to stay competitive. In top—20, you will need to be on par with the changing METAs. at your rank (top—500) it will be a bit less stressfull — even though you will have to develop your team/roster just like your opponents do.

It's just Palpa/Vader, their rework basically gave everyone a complete counter to all the other teams, Nightsisters, Rebels, Jedi, they all fall to Palpa. Apparently the only counter to Palpa is Rex with Wampa + a bunch of legendaries which for new players like you and me it's obviously not feasible, best advice is to literally join the dark side and go palpa as well..

You're always chasing the carrot in this game. When/if you catch the carrot, a better carrot shows up. Once in a while you get lucky and find you already had the carrot, but that's rare.The most important part is to decide which carrot you want and only chase that one; you get nowhere chasing them all.Phoenix Squadron (PS) got hit pretty hard by the recent Palpenvader rework. Still a highly valuable starter squad though. Your decision now is to choose a new carrot. Chase the new Sith meta or find a faction that has the potential to become the next big thing. Maybe just pick one you like for fun.What do you think will be the counter to the new Sith and New Rey squads? Whatever it is, there will be some reworked old heroes plus some new characters involved.There is a tremor in the Force, a presence I've not felt since ...

"CoastalJames;c-1494442" wrote:Said it before- Phoenix are pretty darn good in every aspect of the game except Arena.This!If Penix were any good in Squad Arena, then everybody would just need to farm Penix and be done with the game. The meta must always change to force people to increase their collection. Or else it won't be Galaxy of Heroes anymore, just Galaxy of Penix.

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Waquira
7 years ago
META: Most Efficient Tactics Available
Zeta : The highest tier of ability mats. Higher than omegas.

We all started out with health mods, mainly :—). However, what kind of stats do they have? Speed on arrow mods? Offence on crosses for attackers? Protection for tanks? Secondary speed stats?

Palpatine, Thrawn, Vader and Tarkin are definately a good base for your next team. If in doubt, try taking a look at the top ranking teams in your arena shard for inspiration.
PhoenixMoore1982
Seasoned Newcomer
7 years ago
@catharsis478: your explanation is a fresh breath of air :-)
Thanks for all the advice, I just tried out my Palpatine lead, with Vader, Kylo, Tarkin and Boba against a decent Phoenix team, and crushed them, even though they haven't got my best mods. Let alone their abilities are mostly lvl 4-5-6. This might be a viable solution atm.
My mods are probably very crappy, I just throw some at a toon, and they get better apparently, I've never given it any thought tbh. I'm still very much occupied woth levelling and farming, so the mods haven't been top of mind lately. There's just so much to do at my level :-)
For instance, the 2 events today: nada for me. Haven't got 5 New Order toons yet, so I haven't gotten BB8 as well... Bummer, wait until next time around.
You are right about the 2 legendaries my Phoenix squad gathered though, and I salute them for that!
Empiric1
7 years ago
Did you get Thrawn as well?

If I were you I'd get Palpa Lead, Vader, Tarkin and if you don't have shoretrooper, Sion, 5th can be optional, would be easy if we could see your roster but most Empire or Sith characters would work, even a 3 star DN would be a nice team.

You'd crush all nightsister, rebels and phoenix teams with a setup like that.

Edit: If you got Thrawn, Palpa, Vader, Thrawn, Tarkin and Shoretrooper (if you don't have shoretrooper please post your roster, Darth Sion would work as well)
chfc220510
7 years ago
If you have Thrawn, drop Boba for him.

Make Palp your leader, and Thrawn your fastest toon. If Vader goes because of his speed boost, use his debuff then basic to ability block someone.

Use Fracture first if they have a chaze, cls, nihilus or GK. If not, use his second special on tarkin.

Then use tarkins debuff, which under a palp lead should give him another turn straightaway as with Vader above, and then use his aoe to remove opposition turn metre.

Then use palp's stun.
SWGOH_Anakin_S
7 years ago
Phoenix sux. That is the truth .even for beginners at about lv70. I personally used boba lead till i built my cls titan team. Better yet is wedge lead rebel
Even better now is palpatine lead teams
Neo_GGamer
7 years ago
Stormtrooper is also a decent Empire tank that's farmable at that level for the EP / Vader / Tarkin + 2 team. Shore isn't farmable for OP yet (for awhile, and it's a long long farm).

Not sure who he's working on, but TFP from cantina is also a good choice since he's very fast, provides buff immunity on AoE, which is good for NS, and has one of the most valuable ships, especially running under a Tarkin lead. KRU is also a potential fit as a dark side tank in EP teams and has the ship as well, but a 3* Sion probably works just as well, despite his star limitations. Tanks need gear more than anything else.

There is a lot to work on and you're not going to get everything the first time it comes around. Come up with a plan and don't stray from it. While farming the wrong thing can be bad, switching what you farm frequently just means you never finish anything.
PhoenixMoore1982
Seasoned Newcomer
7 years ago
"Empiric1;c-1494059" wrote:
Did you get Thrawn as well?

If I were you I'd get Palpa Lead, Vader, Tarkin and if you don't have shoretrooper, Sion, 5th can be optional, would be easy if we could see your roster but most Empire or Sith characters would work, even a 3 star DN would be a nice team.

You'd crush all nightsister, rebels and phoenix teams with a setup like that.

Edit: If you got Thrawn, Palpa, Vader, Thrawn, Tarkin and Shoretrooper (if you don't have shoretrooper please post your roster, Darth Sion would work as well)

Yeah, I got Thrawn, but only at 5*
PhoenixMoore1982
Seasoned Newcomer
7 years ago
"catharsis478;c-1494069" wrote:
Well done!

There's a lot going on and mod farming can be a pain in the rear, but you should have some success once you figure out a farming schedule. Some people like to do it once a week, and others (I'm personally in this camp) like to do it for a set amount of time between their other cantina farms. A week between each cantina farm can go a long way to getting your arena team kitted out in decent mods, and having a few left over for your secondary and tertiary teams. Something else entirely may work better for you.

As far as events go: hence why I mentioned a long-term plan! Most people start by farming the required teams for the Legendary/Journey events, then branching out to wherever their priorities lay (raids, guild events, arena, fleets). The biggest mistake you can make in GoH is chasing whatever fancy shiny-thing that happens to catch your eye for a moment. If your plan leads to JTR--or you're about set for your Empire/CLS teams and want to move on to her--then it's time to get your Resistance and First Order teams and jump on those vets the moment you hit 83 (I hope the luck Gods are with you).

I'm such a noob that I don't even know what CLS or JTR means :s
chfc220510
7 years ago
Luke with a light sabre, and Rey with a light sabre.

I'll save you time now - RNG = random number generator, ie relying on buffs landing etc
Empiric1
7 years ago
"Moorebid;c-1494083" wrote:
"Empiric1;c-1494059" wrote:
Did you get Thrawn as well?

If I were you I'd get Palpa Lead, Vader, Tarkin and if you don't have shoretrooper, Sion, 5th can be optional, would be easy if we could see your roster but most Empire or Sith characters would work, even a 3 star DN would be a nice team.

You'd crush all nightsister, rebels and phoenix teams with a setup like that.

Edit: If you got Thrawn, Palpa, Vader, Thrawn, Tarkin and Shoretrooper (if you don't have shoretrooper please post your roster, Darth Sion would work as well)

Yeah, I got Thrawn, but only at 5*

Any one feel free to correct me if I'm wrong but the only difference between a 5 star thrawn and 7 star is 2K health which is a hit from a wet noodle tank character.