Please rethink the credit needs of the game for Credit HEIST

"Cardiff0;824455" wrote:
I just don't see the big deal. I have 70 mil credits on standby doing nothing, win everything in the game, and have levelled everyone that could have any possible use for me. And I've bought a fair few mods and about half the guys I've levelled I never even use

If you want more usable characters, gear is always your wall stopping you using more guys.

Unless you are p2p in which case you need to buy both

You aren't winning heroic tank, tournaments or ship arena. Arena and Rancor sure, I got an alt I play 30 mins a day that has 24m credits and isn't even lvl 80 yet but at his rate it'll be 5 years before a heroic guild would admit him. We all play the same game, you can't invest credits to turn a profit or get things cheaper by playing "smart", you just opt to not play as much as others and have credits on hand by not doing anything.

Credits aren't an issue if you are content on only playing part of the content.

Agree in general on the gear but my under geared toons would do a lot more dmg on heroic tank if I had credits to lvl cap them instead of throwing a ton of them that are lvl 70 which invokes penalties.

Mods are the other issue.

"sneeekypants;824556" wrote:

"Cardiff0;824455" wrote:
I just don't see the big deal. I have 70 mil credits on standby doing nothing, win everything in the game, and have levelled everyone that could have any possible use for me. And I've bought a fair few mods and about half the guys I've levelled I never even use

If you want more usable characters, gear is always your wall stopping you using more guys.

Unless you are p2p in which case you need to buy both

You aren't winning heroic tank, tournaments or ship arena. Arena and Rancor sure, I got an alt I play 30 mins a day that has 24m credits and isn't even lvl 80 yet but at his rate it'll be 5 years before a heroic guild would admit him. We all play the same game, you can't invest credits to turn a profit or get things cheaper by playing "smart", you just opt to not play as much as others and have credits on hand by not doing anything.

Credits aren't an issue if you are content on only playing part of the content.

Agree in general on the gear but my under geared toons would do a lot more dmg on heroic tank if I had credits to lvl cap them instead of throwing a ton of them that are lvl 70 which invokes penalties.

Mods are the other issue.

A lot more dmg? i'm sorry, but i think you're wrong. a g8 lvl85 toons isn't that much better than a g8 lvl70 toon. It's simply not worth it to lvl them. That's what i consider playing smart, not wasting credits on stuff that makes very little difference. almost all my g9 or higher characters are lvl 85 (old daka and old ben are the exeption, both at lvl80).
Furthermore, winning heroic tank raid and tournaments are far more dependent on time played than the availability of credits.

"leef;824469" wrote:

"Cardiff0;824455" wrote:
I just don't see the big deal. I have 70 mil credits on standby doing nothing, win everything in the game, and have levelled everyone that could have any possible use for me. And I've bought a fair few mods

If you want more usable characters, gear is always your wall stopping you using more guys.

Unless you are p2p in which case you need to buy both

this ^
credit problems are caused by poor resource management. Having 70 mil is also caused by poor resource management imo , but that's a whole different issue ;)

Poor resource management?!? Yeah you're right - good management is like - ok, instead of mod this toon this year I will mod it 2017...or 2018. the other toon will plan to mod it in 2021 and will make all my 7* toons level 85 at 2025. Perfect planning!!! :smile:

"leef;824570" wrote:


Mods are the other issue.

A lot more dmg? i'm sorry, but i think you're wrong. a g8 lvl85 toons isn't that much better than a g8 lvl70 toon. It's simply not worth it to lvl them. That's what i consider playing smart, not wasting credits on stuff that makes very little difference. almost all my g9 or higher characters are lvl 85 (old daka and old ben are the exeption, both at lvl80).
Furthermore, winning heroic tank raid and tournaments are far more dependent on time played than the availability of credits.

For tournaments I didn't say anything about that, he said he's winning everything in the game and has tons of credits and I replied back it's impossible. He has tons of credits by "choosing" to not play half the game. He's not winning ships, tank heroic or tournaments. So the only thing he's winning is arena and Rancor.

The limiting part of tank isn't toon shards for the right teams, you will get those before credits, mods and gear. You get toon shards from everything then you need to pay for levels, stars and mods for each and you can't keep up just like gear.

I'm 18-25 rank in my guild for heroic tank, largely due to my Rebels and a bunch of under leveled and geared teams plus the load is not distributed evenly. I use about 25 toons in teams and 10 junk for the raid.

We've done maybe 7ish so far and 2 fails before that. I started in June/July as I believe you already know. A bump up of 20k on heroic teams is huge and yes I can get an average of 4K per toon for an entire attack by leveling them. Say the bottom 30 people are leveling due to credits on a phase and that is an additional 600k. for a heroic raid that's huge since that's all coming from your lower teams and members especially if you are at the cusp.

For tournaments, as well as heroic tank, you need mods and actually you need to move mods around a lot. Being a late shard, I will never be able to win a tournament but a lot of our heavy hitters place top 5 including one that has placed first in all but one. To get every edge, you move your top mods around at 50k per swap per toon and this goes for the same if you need to maximize damage in the raid for either rank or to complete it.

Credit heist events are aimed at players who can't finish GWs. Lol

I just hate the HUGE variables between rewards.

From 3 mil to 20 mil???

Come on...

that's such a huge gap.

"LordStyling;824703" wrote:
I just hate the HUGE variables between rewards.

From 3 mil to 20 mil???

Come on...

that's such a huge gap.

A dev confirmed that after the heist change a while ago the vast majority of the time you are going to get 5m. That's what they want people to get. The variance is just for appearance.

i think the event is ok with credits
however the galatic war could use some more credits rewards for all the trouble of going trough that
and we really need a way to earn more stun cuffs since everybody needs 10 million of those xD

"DaeronTiwele;824738" wrote:
i think the event is ok with credits
however the galatic war could use some more credits rewards for all the trouble of going trough that
and we really need a way to earn more stun cuffs since everybody needs 10 million of those xD

lol... I find you need way more mkIII carbanti sensor arrays

Kenobi needs like 9 of them just by himself! (450 pieces....)

"sneeekypants;824725" wrote:

"LordStyling;824703" wrote:
I just hate the HUGE variables between rewards.

From 3 mil to 20 mil???

Come on...

that's such a huge gap.

A dev confirmed that after the heist change a while ago the vast majority of the time you are going to get 5m. That's what they want people to get. The variance is just for appearance.

ok

well still, I always get 4-5mil, every single time.

"sneeekypants;824556" wrote:

"Cardiff0;824455" wrote:
I just don't see the big deal. I have 70 mil credits on standby doing nothing, win everything in the game, and have levelled everyone that could have any possible use for me. And I've bought a fair few mods and about half the guys I've levelled I never even use

If you want more usable characters, gear is always your wall stopping you using more guys.

Unless you are p2p in which case you need to buy both

You aren't winning heroic tank, tournaments or ship arena. Arena and Rancor sure, I got an alt I play 30 mins a day that has 24m credits and isn't even lvl 80 yet but at his rate it'll be 5 years before a heroic guild would admit him. We all play the same game, you can't invest credits to turn a profit or get things cheaper by playing "smart", you just opt to not play as much as others and have credits on hand by not doing anything.

Credits aren't an issue if you are content on only playing part of the content.

Agree in general on the gear but my under geared toons would do a lot more dmg on heroic tank if I had credits to lvl cap them instead of throwing a ton of them that are lvl 70 which invokes penalties.

Mods are the other issue.

Actually -

- I get 1st in ships and arena every day,
- if by 'winning' heroic tank you mean participating, I'm in a heroic guild and have been for a while. I come around 10-15 and there's no way I could compete with the top 3 anyway.
- I've won one tournament (tie advanced), and placed decently in the rest. Tournaments aren't possible to win any more for f2p so I just place decently
- I play every day and do everything in the day

I never really see the point in upgrading anyone at all unless they're at the VERY least going to G9, they won't do you any good in any part of the game. I know that upgrading any one of my guys wont actually help me perform better in any area of the game. Maybe levelling 10 guys would help me get 100k, 200k more damage in tank raid right now, thats nothing. And that's not to say I don't do it, I have a bunch of level 80 G8s, and I still have the spare credits. I also waste credits whenever I like on mods or levelling people I don't use.

But no one will do you any good before you gear them, and as it is you will always be more strapped to get to G9 and beyond that you will be to level people. Those credits are doing me zero good until I get more gear, at which point 70mil will be overkill.

I have about 10 guys already max level and waiting for gear (more than 10 at high level but averaged out between the ones I have at 85 and those I have 70-85), and I count 70mil to be enough to max 8 more guys, I have the gear for 2 of them. Simply put, I could double the number of characters I use today, if you took gear out of the equation.

I think people are just desperate to keep levelling and progressing the game by levelling their guys to max level, but don't appreciate that they are useless anyway until they're geared