Please teach me to understand swgoh math

@CG_Doja_Fett please good sir could you get us the right answers from somewhere? This is really frustrating these kind of infos should be accessible for us players.
(Edit english)

"Rath_Tarr;c-2189385" wrote:

"scuba;c-2189328" wrote:

"Rath_Tarr;c-2189326" wrote:

"Kyno;c-2189320" wrote:

"Samurhaj;c-2189263" wrote:

"Kyno;c-2189257" wrote:
I'm not sure if the above is true, but the order doesnt matter. As far as I know, no skills are calculated off anything but the base stats

Base stats are your characters stats with mods included.

Total stat at the beginning of a battle = base stat + (base stat × unique) + (base stat × leader ability) + ...... ext.

"Mephisto_style;c-2189260" wrote:

"Kyno;c-2189257" wrote:
I'm not sure if the above is true, but the order doesnt matter. As far as I know, no skills are calculated off anything but the base stats

Base stats are your characters stats with mods included.

Total stat at the beginning of a battle = base stat + (base stat × unique) + (base stat × leader ability) + ...... ext.

I believe in another thread someone tried to show some evidence of this over the past 6 weeks. I didn't walk away convinced.

Well if the screenshoty are not edited then turn order must matter. Why there is no official statement for such important things?

I just meant the order towards stat calculations shouldn't matter.

Yes position in team position matters in things like mass attack/assists.

It processes the uniques in squad slot order too.

Except R2. His always seems to go first.

Bit tricky to prove / disprove that. A squad with just Chewie R2 & Threepachew would be the best way. Set up the modding such that guard should go to either R2 or Threepachew depending on squad slot order.

We did test and prove that, trying to get pics to upload now

Edit:
Pics



I can give the math numbers later. They are a mess in my notes.

"Mephisto_style;c-2189396" wrote:
Han's damage output might be a good benchmark to test this

Damage is always hard to test because of variance.

"Mephisto_style;c-2189430" wrote:

"scuba;c-2189398" wrote:

"Mephisto_style;c-2189396" wrote:
Han's damage output might be a good benchmark to test this

Damage is always hard to test because of variance.

Just take the average of 20 crits, which from my Han is every 1. The variance will be smoothed in a higher n average.

Easier to do health and protection calculations though

"scuba;c-2189315" wrote:
Note: I did not read all the comments, so this may have been said already.
Here is what was found with some testing we did.
R2 number crunch goes first, so leader will have boosted stats from number crunch, than chewpio will use those boosted stats.

This is independent of what order they are in (R2 could be 2nd or last)

R2 number crunch seems the only one to work like this and always seems to go first, so can boost stats before other uniques boost stats.

Does not happen with leader abilities uniques only.

In your example
CLS would get base stats boosted from R2 number crunch
Chewpio would then use those stats for his boosting

This has been my findings as well after many tests. Swgoh math is the best lol

2 notes:

Yes R2 will do his number crunch first no matter what and his stats increases do work into other calculations.

Order does matter for guard, when it gets to chewie in placement order, is when its decided who gets guarded.

"Samurhaj;c-2191992" wrote:

"Kyno;c-2191991" wrote:
2 notes:

Yes R2 will do his number crunch first no matter what and his stats increases do work into other calculations.

Order does matter for guard, when it gets to chewie in placement order, is when its decided who gets guarded.

So what is the best placement for cls R2 Han 3pac chewie?

The one that gets you the ally you want guarded.
Play with it in GW before you sim it

"Samurhaj;d-237799" wrote:
Im running:
Cls lead
Chewbacca
Han Solo
Cpo & chewie
R2d2

Can someone competent please show me how would the offense health and protection stats look like at the start of battle when:
All skills are zetaed
All characters have 100 offense hp and protection (for simplier math)
With explanation if possible.

You can only understand the math if your IQ is greater than 500 and after you have personally beaten Grandmaster Yoda in a chess match in Sweden. It must be in Sweden.

"Doni12;c-2189222" wrote:
Not too sure what you’re asking, it’s all dependent on mods, so you control it, and it shows you the stats on the character

Im interested in final numbers of all characters before the first strike when they are entering the battle with 100 hp prot and offense unmodded (hope it doesnt matter in calculations if for example 20 of those 100 is from mods). There are a lot of skills in this squad that change HP prot and offense and I Want to know how does it work.

I’m not sure which one goes first, so not sure what stat/ability applies first. But r2 shares, chewpio shares from the leader. I’d imagine they all share based on the initial value and one doesn’t stack onto the other so if r2 gives 100, it’s +100 to base numbers, whatever chewpio shares is from the base numbers not what stacks after r2 gives his stuff out.