Yeah yeah, I know, Answers HQ for bugs... I just want to see if there’s something I might be missing before I report it, or if anyone else can confirm they’re seeing the same.Here’s the scenario where I typically see the interaction:Of note:My side: Xanadu Blood, Han’s FalconEnemy: Phantom IIOthers ships sometimes present on either/both sides: Hounds Tooth, Ghost, Han’s Falcon, Cassian’s U-Wing, Phantom II, Biggs, VaderSetup:Typically later in battle. I’ve usually dispatched HMF and HT at this point. It’s my cap ship’s turn. I call in XB as reinforcement. Enemy’s Phantom has taunt/foresight up from unique. I use XB’s special on Phantom calling HMF to assist. Phantom evades XB as expected, and then *also* evades HMF. This has happened in 100% of my attempts, in 72 attempts tracked. At first I thought it was Phantom’s increased evade, but I believe I should still be hitting some non-zero number of times over this many attempts, especially now that HT/Breach has supposedly been fixed to correctly reduce evasion (content update 2/20) and the reinforcement is usually breaching Phantom. I have not, but plan to, test this with calling ships other than HMF for assist.Am I missing something else? Or is it, as I suspect, that XB’s special is not correctly clearing foresight until after the assist is called? (Note: XB kit says deal physical damage *and then* call assist.)Looking forward to some more eyes on this.

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Is ghost present?It is possible you are crit or landing the debuff on ghost and therefore reapplying foresight

Only possible way this would happen is if on all 72 attempts tracked by the OP, Ghost happened to get critically hit AND/OR be the weakest enemy and thus have TL applied while also not resisting it (while also reducing XBs potency by -25%...). A whole bunch of really bad RNG required to have that happen 72 times in a row.

Yeah, good points on Ghost being present. I will have to monitor that more closely. I know it has occurred *without* Ghost being present, but not sure whether it has occurred often enough to not be accountable through evasion.

"Vendi1983;c-1793211" wrote:Only possible way this would happen is if on all 72 attempts tracked by the OP, Ghost happened to get critically hit AND/OR be the weakest enemy and thus have TL applied while also not resisting it (while also reducing XBs potency by -25%...). A whole bunch of really bad RNG required to have that happen 72 times in a row.Not necessarily, this would just add another layer of RNG, that would make 72 attempts less of an oddity.In this scenario, I would imagine that ghost is almost always the weakest enemy too.

Possible bugged Xanadu Blood interaction?

abcPOPiaa9g3bj
6 years ago
"Firebrigade;c-1793235" wrote:
"Troyo;c-1793230" wrote:
Phantom has so many ways to evade an attack. It gains foresight multiple ways like if ghost is critical hit or debuffed. Then if Phantom has no protection it has 50% chance to gain foresight for 2 turns which I feel like happens more than 50% but I have never tracked it. Also phantom has 5% evade for every rebel ally. Phantom can be a huge pain at times for me. If ghost and a couple other rebels are active I have found its hard to land a hit on Phantom.

I already mentioned/thought about the 5% evasion. Chopper’s unique, the 60% chance to gain those buffs, only takes effect at the end of Phantoms turn and so wouldn’t come into play mid-action here.

My point was if Phantom gains foresight due to no protection at end of its turn it is for **2** turns meaning both attacks would be evaded.
firebrigade9
6 years ago
"Troyo;c-1793245" wrote:
"Firebrigade;c-1793235" wrote:
"Troyo;c-1793230" wrote:
Phantom has so many ways to evade an attack. It gains foresight multiple ways like if ghost is critical hit or debuffed. Then if Phantom has no protection it has 50% chance to gain foresight for 2 turns which I feel like happens more than 50% but I have never tracked it. Also phantom has 5% evade for every rebel ally. Phantom can be a huge pain at times for me. If ghost and a couple other rebels are active I have found its hard to land a hit on Phantom.

I already mentioned/thought about the 5% evasion. Chopper’s unique, the 60% chance to gain those buffs, only takes effect at the end of Phantoms turn and so wouldn’t come into play mid-action here.

My point was if Phantom gains foresight due to no protection at end of its turn it is for **2** turns meaning both attacks would be evaded.

That’s not how that works. That means it stays up for 2 turns instead of 1 if not attacked. It still gets cleansed with the first attack.
abcPOPiaa9g3bj
6 years ago
Do you not ever have any other rebels in your fleet with HMF??

If you call HMF to assist it would in turn call another rebel to assist essentially attacking phantom 3 times but I noticed you did not mention a 3rd attack.
abcPOPiaa9g3bj
6 years ago
"Firebrigade;c-1793249" wrote:
"Troyo;c-1793245" wrote:
"Firebrigade;c-1793235" wrote:
"Troyo;c-1793230" wrote:
Phantom has so many ways to evade an attack. It gains foresight multiple ways like if ghost is critical hit or debuffed. Then if Phantom has no protection it has 50% chance to gain foresight for 2 turns which I feel like happens more than 50% but I have never tracked it. Also phantom has 5% evade for every rebel ally. Phantom can be a huge pain at times for me. If ghost and a couple other rebels are active I have found its hard to land a hit on Phantom.

I already mentioned/thought about the 5% evasion. Chopper’s unique, the 60% chance to gain those buffs, only takes effect at the end of Phantoms turn and so wouldn’t come into play mid-action here.

My point was if Phantom gains foresight due to no protection at end of its turn it is for **2** turns meaning both attacks would be evaded.

That’s not how that works. That means it stays up for 2 turns instead of 1 if not attacked. It still gets cleansed with the first attack.

I could be wrong. I thought it would withstand two hits. I also feel like at times it has taken me two hits to clear phantoms foresight so I thought that's how it worked.
firebrigade9
6 years ago
"Troyo;c-1793254" wrote:
Do you not ever have any other rebels in your fleet with HMF??

If you call HMF to assist it would in turn call another rebel to assist essentially attacking phantom 3 times but I noticed you did not mention a 3rd attack.

I do. The 3rd attack typically hits, sometimes is evaded, haven’t tracked numbers on that. Didn’t think to mention it but probably a relevant piece of information.

"Troyo;c-1793257" wrote:
"Firebrigade;c-1793249" wrote:
"Troyo;c-1793245" wrote:
"Firebrigade;c-1793235" wrote:
"Troyo;c-1793230" wrote:
Phantom has so many ways to evade an attack. It gains foresight multiple ways like if ghost is critical hit or debuffed. Then if Phantom has no protection it has 50% chance to gain foresight for 2 turns which I feel like happens more than 50% but I have never tracked it. Also phantom has 5% evade for every rebel ally. Phantom can be a huge pain at times for me. If ghost and a couple other rebels are active I have found its hard to land a hit on Phantom.

I already mentioned/thought about the 5% evasion. Chopper’s unique, the 60% chance to gain those buffs, only takes effect at the end of Phantoms turn and so wouldn’t come into play mid-action here.

My point was if Phantom gains foresight due to no protection at end of its turn it is for **2** turns meaning both attacks would be evaded.

That’s not how that works. That means it stays up for 2 turns instead of 1 if not attacked. It still gets cleansed with the first attack.

I could be wrong. I thought it would withstand two hits. I also feel like at times it has taken me two hits to clear phantoms foresight so I thought that's how it worked.

I don’t believe foresight works that way anywhere in the game. Always cleared when used up to evade. Worth also noting that a ship with an unavoidable attack (HT special, Vader’s basic) will hit through the foresight and not clear it.
firebrigade9
6 years ago
"Freydwen;c-1793314" wrote:
I’ve seen this interaction between XB and phantom as well. I stopped using XB shortly after the falcon came out though.

Pardon me ma’am/sir, do you have a moment to speak with me about our lord and savior, Xanadu Blood?

- More breaches (= more HT taunt)
- More effects on breaches
- Turning breach into an expose for Bh
- Retribution on all scoundrels (including HMF)
- An extra assist to call HMF

What’s not to love!?
trystanspyder
6 years ago
"Firebrigade;c-1793341" wrote:

- Retribution on all scoundrels (including HMF)

Wow. Completely missed that.
firebrigade9
6 years ago
"Trystan_Spyder;c-1793343" wrote:
"Firebrigade;c-1793341" wrote:

- Retribution on all scoundrels (including HMF)

Wow. Completely missed that.

Between HMF countering on AOEs and HT countering every attack to self-cleanse it’s pretty awesome
chionophobe
6 years ago
"Firebrigade;c-1793341" wrote:
"Freydwen;c-1793314" wrote:
I’ve seen this interaction between XB and phantom as well. I stopped using XB shortly after the falcon came out though.

Pardon me ma’am/sir, do you have a moment to speak with me about our lord and savior, Xanadu Blood?

- More breaches (= more HT taunt)
- More effects on breaches
- Turning breach into an expose for Bh
- Retribution on all scoundrels (including HMF)
- An extra assist to call HMF

What’s not to love!?

This actually is pretty intriguing. What's your full fleet composition (assuming you use this yourself)?
firebrigade9
6 years ago
"chionophile;c-1793354" wrote:
"Firebrigade;c-1793341" wrote:
"Freydwen;c-1793314" wrote:
I’ve seen this interaction between XB and phantom as well. I stopped using XB shortly after the falcon came out though.

Pardon me ma’am/sir, do you have a moment to speak with me about our lord and savior, Xanadu Blood?

- More breaches (= more HT taunt)
- More effects on breaches
- Turning breach into an expose for Bh
- Retribution on all scoundrels (including HMF)
- An extra assist to call HMF

What’s not to love!?

This actually is pretty intriguing. What's your full fleet composition (assuming you use this yourself)?

Starting -
- Home One
- HT
- HMF
- Biggs/Ghost (matchup dependent)

Bench -
Phantom
Cassian
XB
Biggs/Ghost

Note - I currently start with Ghost over Biggs most often. Biggs seldom makes it off the bench. Once I have Bistans U-wing starred I plan to swap that in, most likely starting in place of Ghost and moving Ghost to bench.

Reinforce order -

For non-HMF fleets (I still have 1-2 hanging around) - 1) Phantom 2) XB, this gets XB in before HT taunt would fall naturally and the XB breach keeps it up, or if they have a lot of cleansing I go straight to XB to keep the taunt up on HT.

For HMF fleets - it depends on breach situation after opening round. If I’m clear I call in Cassian to get rid of oppo HMF, followed by either Phantom/XB depending on taunt situation. If I’m not clear of breach I go Phantom-Cass-XB.

One more note - there’s only one Bistan on my shard so far, will be interesting to see how that affects my strat.

I take top two every day.