When Rey suffers a debuff she has a 40% chance to cleanse all debuffs. Seems simple enough. My question is, if RJT suffers multiple debuffs, does this chance stack? So if CLS inflicts two debuffs on her, does she have a 64% chance to cleanse herself because both debuffs are independent events?

"AnnerDoon;c-1412728" wrote:Wouldn't it be great if we could simply get a clear description of game mechanics from the devs? I mean, why all the secrecy? To me it seems they never expect the players to go into to much questioning of these things.

Perhaps see Jyn's leader for an example of where an effect (exposing an enemy if a rebel applied a debuff to them) only happens once, at the end of a turn, and see how it's structured differently than the per-debuff effects of JTR and KRU:https://swgoh.gg/characters/jyn-erso/ability/into-the-fray(It's also interesting to me how Expose is apparently implemented as a chain of future effects, rather than just a built-in simple debuff, but this is why there've been so many Expose bugs, probably.)

hi ugluk199,very good question!my logical understanding says: yes, the chances are higher if there are more than one debuff. one and one have a 64% chance to cleanse them all.

mind tricks from rjt to rjt isn‘t a good idea...87% chance for cleaning!

Well, I‘d say it really depends on how mechanics works in the background. If JTR just checks if she is debuffed by a skill at a specific point it would be a 40% chance to cleanse it all (which I assume is the case; reason later)If she would check for EVERY instance of debuffs it would be - in the case given of 2 debuffs hitting her- 2 times a 40% chance.I guess, as stated above, that one ability that debuffs her makes her check 1 time at 40% whether she cancels all debuffs or not. Otherwise it would probably make for weird mechanics and calculations ingame. So a Vaders uses Force Crush and would apply 3 dots. What happens if EVERY instance of the debuff would be checked? She could end up with 3 dots, 2 dots or 1 dot depending on RNG. So I‘d say it is either all 3 being canceled or none. Thus, I believe that JTR checks once per ability (basically once everything of that ability has been calculated; no matter if it would leave her with 1, 2 or 100 debuffs) whether all debuffs are canceled or not at a 40% chance (I‘d assume it to be the same, if an ability would debuff her AND trigger a unique which would debuff her. All instances of this effect and aftermaths are calculated before the 40% chance is applied)Another different question comes to mind. How does lead Zader‘s Force Crush work on her? (I haven‘t been in that situation yet).Is there a loop in the background until the dots are applied (because theoretically she could cancel them infinitely, while Zader would apply them infinitely...?)

Question about Rey (Jedi Training) Virtuous Protector Zeta

skynut3000
7 years ago
If you compare the swgoh.gg readout of the ability mechanics for Virtuous Protector zeta (https://swgoh.gg/characters/rey-jedi-training/ability/virtuous-protector) vs KRU's Merciless Pursuit zeta (https://swgoh.gg/characters/kylo-ren-unmasked/ability/merciless-pursuit) which has a similar mechanic (an FO ally gains 5% health and 5% protection they get any buff or debuff; main difference is that it's 100% chance not 40%), I expect JTR-VP would operate a debuff-at-a-time with a 40% roll after each.

Are there other per-debuff chance-of abilities we could compare it to in the swgoh readouts?
Grizzly709
7 years ago
"Ferret2112;c-1413500" wrote:
The probability wouldn't actually change. 40% is 40% is 40%. She would just have more rolls on the RNG table.

The point is that the effective cleanse rate is affected because of the "cleanse all". Based on what I have seen. I believe there is a roll for each debuff and it cleanses immediately on a hit. For instance, if the first debuff hits the cleanse only it is cleansed. If the fourth roll hits it will cleanse all four. Add in all the other combinations. Also, you have to factor in resistance which will happen sometimes and foresight since she has it a lot.

Overall it is better than one roll only but not as good as one of the 4 rolls cleansing all 4 every time.

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