Sith team Nihilus lead

I've been using a DN led team for awhile (until I swapped to Zaul today) and they were pretty effective. I was running either DN + Dooku + EP + TFP + Shore or DN + Sith Assassin + Dooku + EP + Shore. Worked fine in my shard but in more advanced shards I can see it not being effective.

You mean zMaul lead is definitively better than zNihilus lead ?

Well, I'm just going by my own experience but from what I can see so far ..

My previous arena team was DN, SA (or TFP), EP, Dooku and Shore

My current arena team is Zaul, DN, SA, EP, Dooku

My shard is nearly all wiggs and some wiggs/chaze

Zaul = totally demolishes wiggs teams. DN (sans Zeta) was also killing them but they had a better shot of occasionally getting me due to favorable RNG.

Zaul = not totally convinced it is OP vs Wiggs/Chaze (yet .. maybe if I gear up my SA even more it might help), but my DN team (sans Zeta) was fairly effectively vs wiggs + chaze.

I'll know more when I use Zaul more but for now that's been my takeaway. I did run into a brutal Zihilus team in GW earlier today (Zihilus, EP, Vader, Maul, Dooku) and I was only able to beat it using my Zaul team, despite my team in general being decent in speed.

Here's a few videos of my DN lead teams against a zaul team and a Rex team

https://youtu.be/-bjDJwzRbOo
https://youtu.be/LwvVcm6alXs

SirLoki I run a Nihilus lead in arena also, how significant would you say the health down is noticed you had it. Also OP, dooku is super viable on a Nihilus team even without the zeta, as his counters continuously have recover his health-though the zeta would be a waste if you were planning on using him under nihilus.

Dooku and Sith Trooper for their counter-attacks and the health steal make them solid choices for a Nihilus lead. Savage Oppress misses out in his HoT but he is still gaining essentially perma-offense/defense up, still dispells an ally every turn and still cleanses himself when he is crit. He brings plenty of utility without the HoTs and the inadvertent side effect of no HoTs is he is less vulnerable to Boba nuking him.

If running that style of team I probably run Darth Nihiuls (L), Savage Oppress, Dooku, Sith Trooper and the fifth is a flex spot. Go with Sith Assassin to ignore protection and setup early Overpowers from Savage. Go with Emperor Palpative for Shock/AOE Stuns and a slightly softer target for enemies. Go with Darth Maul to gain Daze, max health gains and solid damage. Of course that is if you want to go with an all Sith team, if you are mixing/matching then the options are much broader.

"SirLoki;973072" wrote:
Here's a few videos of my DN lead teams against a zaul team and a Rex team

https://youtu.be/-bjDJwzRbOo
https://youtu.be/LwvVcm6alXs

Second vid looks legit but I don't think it's feasible for most people to get any toons to move before an enemy SA when fighting Nihilus vs Zaul. Mine moved at 305 effective speed for example. And I think it'd be quite difficult for you to win that first match without the opening Dooku stun.

What I'm beginning to see in my shard is a sort of triangle
Nihilus>Rex
Rex>Maul
Maul>Nihilus
As shown above, it's not unreasonable for Nihilus to beat Maul but definitely difficult. Personally, I think the best Nihilus-led team would be Dooku(very fast), Maul, sith trooper, and palpatine

@Sir Loki, I'd be very interested to see how this team would fare with a more readily (farmable) character in place of GK. :)

Among the multiple arena teams I run, one of them is a Nihilus lead.
After much experimentation I think I have one down that is effective against even Zaul teams.
Nihilus, Vader, Sith Trooper, Sith Assassin, Dooku
Even with Zaul's bonus turn meter at the beginning, my Sith Assassin will go before Zaul, but usually not before EP. So, some of this is based on the luck that SA doesn't get stunned at the beginning. I always have SA use her Dark Shroud to give the rest of the squad some nice turn meter, which means, I can unleash Nihilus and Vader special before anyone gets a chance to throw tenacity up, or an enemy Nihilus to add to my cooldowns.
From there, it's just a matter of whittling the opponent down.
Biggest advantage of a Nihilus team is that you can't critically hit anyone, so GK's taunt never pops, and Zarriss's Special never activates

Sith Trooper is really hard to kill in this squad, especially once he gets his counter ability up.
I sometimes flip out Vader for Sid, or sometimes Savage (maybe Savage more once I zeta him). I rarely use EP, as his basic can still critically hit on the non-targeted enemies (Jedi and Rebels)
Overall, I like this squad. It's usually a 3 minute plus fight, but once they enemies start dropping, it goes fast.