This has puzzled me, what makes a toon go first in arena or galactic war. I run a team with at least three 220ish speed but constantly don't go first. I understand leader abilities and took that in account. But rex, phasma, jyn leads don't give speed boost and I checked their speeds. Is it just random and I'm getting unlucky draws. Or is something amiss in the equation in the game?

there are many factors at play. Without seeing what teams you're facing...I can't really give you a straight answer here. That being said, be sure to read each ability/ unique/ leadership before entering battle to have a full understanding as to what to expect. ie, Rex gives 7.5% tm to non clone allies whenever someone has been critically hitPhasma has a % chance to have allies assist each attack, which could be coupled with the assisting allies basic which may have tmg reach time the use it

Galactic War is one thing as you have preloaded tm to take into account.Typically the toon with the highest speed will go first. However, turn meter gain can make that order go all wonky. Rex leads for instance give out TM to the entire team when one of them gets crit. So one of your characters goes first, then the opponents have enough tm gain to go next.Other characters like Sith Assassin, Rex, and Jawa Engineer give out turn meter to allies to speed them all up. A Zeta Maul lead gives all Sith 20% turn meter to start the match. Biggs gets 100% tm whenever you crit him. Chirrut gets turn meter whenever Baze uses his basic attack. It's not just about speed is what it comes down to.

Went against full first order team (phasma, Foo, fop, for, Kylo) with only first order officer at 229 all others below 190. My team is phasma 200+, fop 200+, frist order officer 227, first order trooper 200ish, and emp 222. Other killed my emp, took all my troop and phasma shields before I even got my first turn.This doesn't add up.

First Order Officer has a special that grants all allies 15% tm if it removes tm from who he targets with it.That explains it right there.

Why didn't my first order officer go second then since it was only 2 less than theirs and 30+ more than their next toon in speed. Note they hit my emp with their first attack.Trying to understand this.

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rj__brando
8 years ago
there are many factors at play. Without seeing what teams you're facing...I can't really give you a straight answer here. That being said, be sure to read each ability/ unique/ leadership before entering battle to have a full understanding as to what to expect.

ie, Rex gives 7.5% tm to non clone allies whenever someone has been critically hit

Phasma has a % chance to have allies assist each attack, which could be coupled with the assisting allies basic which may have tmg reach time the use it
almightywood
8 years ago
Galactic War is one thing as you have preloaded tm to take into account.

Typically the toon with the highest speed will go first. However, turn meter gain can make that order go all wonky. Rex leads for instance give out TM to the entire team when one of them gets crit. So one of your characters goes first, then the opponents have enough tm gain to go next.

Other characters like Sith Assassin, Rex, and Jawa Engineer give out turn meter to allies to speed them all up. A Zeta Maul lead gives all Sith 20% turn meter to start the match.

Biggs gets 100% tm whenever you crit him. Chirrut gets turn meter whenever Baze uses his basic attack.

It's not just about speed is what it comes down to.
WakChad
8 years ago
Went against full first order team (phasma, Foo, fop, for, Kylo) with only first order officer at 229 all others below 190. My team is phasma 200+, fop 200+, frist order officer 227, first order trooper 200ish, and emp 222. Other killed my emp, took all my troop and phasma shields before I even got my first turn.

This doesn't add up.
almightywood
8 years ago
First Order Officer has a special that grants all allies 15% tm if it removes tm from who he targets with it.

That explains it right there.
WakChad
8 years ago
Why didn't my first order officer go second then since it was only 2 less than theirs and 30+ more than their next toon in speed. Note they hit my emp with their first attack.

Trying to understand this.
almightywood
8 years ago
Alright, so he gave them all 15% turn meter, which is 15/100%.

That means they only needed 85/100% to reach full turn meter and go.
So in order to calculate their effective speed at this point we take their speed multiplied by the reciprocal of that 17/20 simplified. so let's say they were a 185 * 20 / 17 = 217. The tm gain would make that 185 character an effective 217 speed.

Basically turn meter gain is a percentage based increase of speed, and therefore can negate a double digit speed advantage quite easily.
WakChad
8 years ago
227(my toon) is still better than 217(their toon adjusted for bonus gained).
I did the math, that's why I don't get what happened.
Jedi_of_Oz_76
8 years ago
Say its Han vs. Han. Who shoots first? Is it speed determined or RNG?
almightywood
8 years ago
"Honrinedc;c-1223707" wrote:
227(my toon) is still better than 217(their toon adjusted for bonus gained).
I did the math, that's why I don't get what happened.

Are you sure it wasn't your first order officer that got hit first? Him losing that tm would explain it all.
almightywood
8 years ago
"Jedi_of_Oz;c-1223742" wrote:
Say its Han vs. Han. Who shoots first? Is it speed determined or RNG?

RNG