First off deal with it. They are unjustifiably overpowered and anybody that doesn't see that must have a bias. Cranking out 50k-70k every single first move is overpowered considering the amount of health the strongest tank have. This is enough damage to first round oneshot any non tank toon in the game. So unless you have Raid Han TM mitigate some damage via his stun, you better hope that you even get a turn. No skill required to use them, and they are dominating the arena. The people that use the exploit known as Wiggs will most likely defend them saying that you just need to get better at the game. The amount of hypocrisy in that statement mean they are scared that more people will start to realize how OP Wiggs is and that they will be the #1 target by the devs when they look to nerf to balance the game. Also the idea that I should just get Wiggs and stop complaining is like saying to join the Nazi's to stop being harassed by the Nazi's. Fighting fire with fire doesn't fix the issue and the devs need to understand that. You defenders are already lost and will be the first ones to whine when Wiggs is nerfed to the ground.

Well done! You made another nerf wiggs thread to go along with the other 357.

And the whining and crying continues -_- First it was Barriss was too op then it was Dooku followed by Poe and then back to Dooku. After that it went to evasion in general followed by Palpatine, mods, and now Wiggs. Will people ever stop crying and actually play the game. If wiggs is too strong for you then just run raid Han and Palpatine. Stun wedgr to start the battle then shock Biggs if you couldn't take out Wedge fast enough. Thats just one counter of many. How about instead of coming here and taking your time to qrite this post you i stead spend the time actually playing the game, building your roster, and using your diverse roster to come up with counters. Every character has a counter and the devs made it so easy for players to run a counter since you see your opponents full team and can even check out the mods on the characters.Also do you even know what an "exploit"is????

"Dooku_for_days;705911" wrote:Well done! You made another nerf wiggs thread to go along with the other 357. Didn't he just make another Nerf wiggs post the other day?

I think we have a stealth markusfive sighting here.

You dedicated more words towards discrediting wiggs defenders than towards the issue you're having with wiggs. Meanwhile you discredit yourself by labeling using wiggs as an exploit. lvl 85 is comming, with that new gear tiers will be avialable for some (if not all) characters. Things are going to change. Maybe wiggs won't (triple) shot kill any character anymore. ps. obviously i'm not going to be happy if the devs straight up nerf wiggs. It took me quite some time and resources to get him to be deadly in arena. Will i whine about it? probably not. In any case i won't be the first whiner, you've made sure of that with this post ;)

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JHizzle147
9 years ago
"JediGhost117;706887" wrote:
"Zarbax;706789" wrote:
I'm guessing someone finally got around to deleting your other thread. Shame. The last post I read on it seemed to put the matter to bed.
You talk about being a whale - presumably you have far better toons than I do. The only teams I can't beat are the kraken-modded speed teams. If I had whale toons and whale mods I'd win on offense every time. On defense, no team is safe. You spent hundred of dollars, so what? I think you've taken Pay-To-Win too literally.
If you're a true whale, you have (all maxed): Palps, both Hans, Wiggs, Lando, Ani, Rex, SF, RG, 5s, and just about any other arena-worthy toon of note, also a ton of mods with good stats to choose from. Pick a team to win. Shuffle mods around, if you have to.
If your problem is that you want to run the team that you like, and not the team that will beat your opponent, get used to losing. It also sounds likely that you've spent your money on all the wrong things. Why should they change the game, simply because you don't have a clue what you're doing?
Why do you even play this game?

EDIT: I put an extra "L" in "also" somewhere in there. It bugged the hell out of me. I had to correct it lol

Then what's the point of competing? If you can defend at least 25% of the time then what's the point? Name one team on defence that even stands a chance agains Wiggs.

If being top and staying top is all that matters - compile a Wiggs team with the best mods. Whale that business to the max. That's how you do it, as you've already been informed.
Sorry for the delay in my reply. I didn't realise that you'd spoken to me
TR3Y_66
9 years ago
"JediGhost117;706035" wrote:
"tRRRey;705993" wrote:
"JediGhost117;705981" wrote:
One toon can not be the only solution to Wiggs.

Then why were you so **** when your welfare Shoretrooper wasn't able to stand up to Wiggs? :smile:

Because everyone was of the opinion that he would do something to stop Wiggs from being OP. Don't try and lie about what ShoreTrooper was talked about before the tourney.

The reason people whine about Wiggs is cause they make a fight 4v5 after their first move. We'll guess what, Shoretrooper prevents them from picking who to target and eats the combo himself. On top of that he's tanky enough that a properly modded Shoretrooper should survive the assist and subsequent Wedge aoe. That should be more than enough to give you the victory on offense. If despite that you're still losing then you have bigger problems than Wiggs :wink:
emvedebe
9 years ago
"JediGhost117;706884" wrote:
"leef;706622" wrote:
"JediGhost117;706465" wrote:
"leef;706090" wrote:
"JediGhost117;705981" wrote:
I knew you all would follow. I have every right to voice my opinion, and none of you have posted a reasonable counter to Wiggs apart from Raid Han. One toon that's hard to get for players that don't use the exact same 'exploit' that people are complaining about how people got ShoreTrooper. One toon can not be the only solution to Wiggs. I knew that your replies would simply be "get good". Guess what that's not an excuse and reasonable way to counter Wiggs. Somebody come up with a team that counters Wiggs, without Raid Han and EP, two highly exclusive toons to the normal players.

honestly, wiggs isnt that hard to counter. But if someone with wiggs also has better mods you're going to have a bad time when you're attacking that team.
As for a team that doesnt need to be tricked out to the maximum with mods, go for droids. They seem to beat wiggs teams effortlessly. No need for raid han, shore trooper or palpi.

Let's say that you are right. How will that help at all on defence? 50k+ damage first round to wipe any tank you have. If their tank taunts then you simply melt their health or use Lando and Anakin to AOE wipe past their taunt. Wiggs is OP and you simply cannot stop them on defence. Sure RNG gods could bless you on offence but that doesn't help you at all when a defence against Wiggs.

seriously? You do not only want to be able to beat wiggs on offence, but you want wiggs to be unable to beat your defence aswell?

I could care less about offence. Name one team comp that even has a chance of defending against Wiggs. Without defence Wiggs teams will drop your rank like a rock. Name one defence team, I dare you.

Impossible, any team can be beat on defence, with or without wiggs. Daring me to name a thing that doesn't exist, wich i can't for obvious reasons, doesn't magically make wiggs OP.
ddlooping2
New Spectator
9 years ago
What do you do if you are a F2P (no Han Solo, Palpatine) level 62 player who has been playing for about 6 weeks and meet Wiggs + Lando + Lumi + (can't remember) team in GW battle 9?
You lose regardless what you throw at them.
Darthisthenight
9 years ago
You know that feeling in early GW nodes when you've annihilated the whole squad but Boba keeps coming back to life for no good reason?

Can't put my finger on it but something about this thread gives me that same feeling...
AfricanJuJuBird
9 years ago
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7JMyEwJ7s6Q

Do you still want to claim that Shoretrooper isn't a Wiggs counter?
US_Underdog
9 years ago
"Zarbax;706888" wrote:
"JediGhost117;706884" wrote:
"leef;706622" wrote:
"JediGhost117;706465" wrote:
"leef;706090" wrote:
"JediGhost117;705981" wrote:
I knew you all would follow. I have every right to voice my opinion, and none of you have posted a reasonable counter to Wiggs apart from Raid Han. One toon that's hard to get for players that don't use the exact same 'exploit' that people are complaining about how people got ShoreTrooper. One toon can not be the only solution to Wiggs. I knew that your replies would simply be "get good". Guess what that's not an excuse and reasonable way to counter Wiggs. Somebody come up with a team that counters Wiggs, without Raid Han and EP, two highly exclusive toons to the normal players.

honestly, wiggs isnt that hard to counter. But if someone with wiggs also has better mods you're going to have a bad time when you're attacking that team.
As for a team that doesnt need to be tricked out to the maximum with mods, go for droids. They seem to beat wiggs teams effortlessly. No need for raid han, shore trooper or palpi.

Let's say that you are right. How will that help at all on defence? 50k+ damage first round to wipe any tank you have. If their tank taunts then you simply melt their health or use Lando and Anakin to AOE wipe past their taunt. Wiggs is OP and you simply cannot stop them on defence. Sure RNG gods could bless you on offence but that doesn't help you at all when a defence against Wiggs.

seriously? You do not only want to be able to beat wiggs on offence, but you want wiggs to be unable to beat your defence aswell?

I could care less about offence. Name one team comp that even has a chance of defending against Wiggs. Without defence Wiggs teams will drop your rank like a rock. Name one defence team, I dare you.

The point is - in high end arena, there isn't one. Mods are the only thing to separate you. All things being equal, a human will always beat the AI. WAI. Please stop the nerf threads. This is basic stuff.

So what's the point of even having a defending team? I get why the player should always win, but I cannon be 100% that they will win. I want a defence team that has 25% chance to hold your rank otherwise there isn't a point to even having a defence team.

"tRRRey;706950" wrote:
"JediGhost117;706035" wrote:
"tRRRey;705993" wrote:
"JediGhost117;705981" wrote:
One toon can not be the only solution to Wiggs.

Then why were you so **** when your welfare Shoretrooper wasn't able to stand up to Wiggs? :smile:

Because everyone was of the opinion that he would do something to stop Wiggs from being OP. Don't try and lie about what ShoreTrooper was talked about before the tourney.

The reason people whine about Wiggs is cause they make a fight 4v5 after their first move. We'll guess what, Shoretrooper prevents them from picking who to target and eats the combo himself. On top of that he's tanky enough that a properly modded Shoretrooper should survive the assist and subsequent Wedge aoe. That should be more than enough to give you the victory on offense. If despite that you're still losing then you have bigger problems than Wiggs :wink:

So it still a 4v5 fight every time even when you are the one attacking. That's broken. Wiggs has been recorded for hitting for a massive 70k. Sure ShoreTrooper has around 80k, but that's him done before he can use his ability and Lando and Anakin are going to wipe him and more of your team most of the time before you can go. That's OP and needs a tweak that most people call a nerf.
Poxx70
9 years ago
Rex lead
Droids w/ JE
EP lead w/ speed Poe
IGD lead w/ Ani, Aayla +2

There r 4 teams that stand good chances of beating them. It's not hard and only 1 option isn't ftp.
KeLe227
9 years ago
Wiggs ohko because that's the only reliable way to beat rex lead. Ur rex team can defend the fuck out of everything else.
US_Underdog
9 years ago
"LastJedi;707259" wrote:
Wiggs ohko because that's the only reliable way to beat rex lead. Ur rex team can defend the **** out of everything else.

Then why haven't you been defending using that. I've stated before that I'm building my Empire team with EP lead, Vader, RG, ShoreTrooper, and possibly Tarkin. I haven't had to deal with any Rex leads because everybody is using Wiggs on my server. If Rex leads are as bad as you claim they are then they need a nerf too. If something is broken you should have to use another broken combo to beat it, they both should get nerfed so that it balances out the flow of the game.