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DathEliza's avatar
DathEliza
New Novice
2 months ago

Bug report - opponent ships gaining TM

Two days in a row now, my opponents ships are gaining TM in Leviathan mirror. We both had TIE Dagger out. Twice yesterday, I could see my capital ship going before theirs, yet when it came time for them to take turns, theirs jumped mine. Today, the capital ship did it again twice, -and- another ship did it. In neither case did they even have Sith Fighter out. 

  • APM822's avatar
    APM822
    Seasoned Rookie

    Happened to me today and yesterday in my fleet arena climb and I managed to screen record it on my iphone with the turn order tracker open through where you can see my Levi is ahead and then all of a sudden despite both Dagger's being alive and well on both sides their Levi jumps the queue and goes before my Levi. 

     

    Video available CG if you want to see it

    • Schwartzring's avatar
      Schwartzring
      Rising Traveler

      I see this happen all the time, I win the coin toss, we both have Dorito, and yet their ultimate goes off first.

      Well not all the time, but a few times a week I'd say.

  • wildmannz's avatar
    wildmannz
    Seasoned Newcomer

    This comes up quite a bit and it's due to the turn order indicator being an indicator not a locked order.  The calculation on who goes next happens after each turn , so if your Levi's are both next to each other in the indicator they are probably on equally tm and the coin flip to determine who goes next happens after the ship before both of them turn ends.  Thus it looks like your will go next , but in fact the coin flip has not happened and when it does the enemy goes first.  

    • DathEliza's avatar
      DathEliza
      New Novice

      That is possible, but then what is the point of the turn order indicator if it literally dose not function?

      Btw - this is happening every day. Way more often in the enemy’s favor than mine. Waaaay more often. Would be nice if CG could at least acknowledge this.

      • wildmannz's avatar
        wildmannz
        Seasoned Newcomer

        It's kind of a catch 22 as it has to show one before the other (although it has been suggested if there is a tied tm there could be an indicator like them being side by side , or a border etc).  They can't do the coin flip until right before as it's a turn based game that process one turn at a time etc  and something may happen to change the order.  It was not part of the original game so kind of treat it as better than nothing, and definitely if you see your and the enemy Levi back to back in the tm order expect the unexpected.

    • APM822's avatar
      APM822
      Seasoned Rookie

      Understood but in the Levi match that coin flip as I understand it happens when the ships load in (assuming both DRs have full 6dot mods) because the requirement is already r9 so there can be no speed difference between the capital ships.

      If thats right how can there be a subsequent coin flip during the fight because once one is ahead the first ability you use with the Levi locks in the TM advantage and dagger stops the other ship being able to catch back up is my understanding of the changes they made?  My example is a recording of a levi "jumping the queue" 2 mins into a battle in progress which is why I think its a mistake as my reading of the kits means this should not be possible but if I'm wrong thats fine I just don't understand how I could be based on kits I can see?

      • wildmannz's avatar
        wildmannz
        Seasoned Newcomer

        Post the vid or if not comfortable dm me it.  It sounds like it shouldn't happen but without seeing the context before it's hard to know.  Did they have the tie reaper in reinforcements and it gets destroyed by chance ? You can lose tm , and tie reaper removes tm when it or one of it's allies are destroyed. 

  • APM822 describes it as I understand it too.

    If you win first Coin Toss & then you sabotage engines, the enemy is now slower.
    Sure, eventually they will sabotage you back & your speeds will be equal again but, for that time when the 1st was "faster" they gained a bit more TM & now should always be a bit ahead of the other ship.
    With both Dorito's stopping any/all TM Gains, it should be impossible for the Coin Toss Loser to ever catch up.
    Yet, I've seen that happen multiple times.

    • DathEliza's avatar
      DathEliza
      New Novice

      That is not the case. Repeatedly, I go first  and sabotage, and they still go first the very next pass.

  • Negative on the TieReaper.  I've heard of that option but I've never seen anyone using it in shard.

     

  • This is still happening on a daily basis. Is there any reason CG can’t even bother to acknowledge this issue?