Ts4 destroyed my ability to enjoy ts2

It makes me sad that I can't play TS2 any longer. I really wish that EA would sell it in their store again. I guess that they fear it would draw too many people away from TS4.

While TS4 is a good game (but not great) it isn't quite up to par with TS2 IMO. The thing for me is that TS2 had more depth and emotion in it's game play. Sims in TS2 seemed more aware of their world like when a Sim would see another Sim naked and scream, they would turn their heads to see who walked into a room, and they would be very sad when a loved one died. I would always feel bad when something bad would happen because even though it was a game. I don't see the emotion in TS4 like I see in TS2.

So has TS4 ruined my ability to enjoy to playing TS2? Not one bit. I find myself playing TS2 more than TS4 and I will always go back to it when TS4 really starts to bore me, which it quite often.

"ClarionOfJoy;c-17644658" wrote:

"Simsophonique;c-17643397" wrote:

"ClarionOfJoy;c-17616550" wrote:

"Simsophonique;c-17616406" wrote:
Now I fixed my sims 2 game and I can finally play it, TS4 does not affect my ability to play TS2 at all, neither it doesn't affect me the enjoyement I have for the sims 3, it is still intouched. I play the 3 games and I do not care of people thinks of because you often act so weird in this community you are always chasing people who enjoys only the sims 4 or only the sims 3 with a passionate hate you are ridiculous in the end !
TS4 lacks of gameplay ? Download mods which add gameplay the modding community is brillant and they bring everything you need even before EA. Same for the sims 3 and the sims 2 mod community that bring so much !

Yes TS4 lacks gameplay. You never needed to install any gameplay in TS2 because the devs did their job like they're suppose to. Now the modders are doing the devs' jobs only they're not getting paid for it. And you people are encouraging this by buying this piece of trash game and making excuses for it's poor quality.. I'm not the one who is being ridiculous, smh......

You treat me as ridiculous? Your answer is !
Nobody force you to buy and to play the sims 4 absolutely nobody , so if you buy the sims 4 or even to play the sims franchise, there are a lot of other franchise to play else and second point, no the devs didn't do enough for adding gameplay and animations in both sims 2 and sims 3 if it was the case , mods which add gameplay even a little bit of didn't exist. After, a lot of sims 4 players outside this toxic forum enjoys the sims 4 without any mods.

My answer makes a lot more sense than yours. Why would the fewer broken content and gameplay in TS4 be better than the abundance of fun working gameplay and content in TS2 and TS3? It's not, that's why your answer is ridiculous.

Yeah no kidding that no one is forcing me to buy and play TS4 - that's why I haven't. And yes, because of the direction that TS4 took, I started playing other game genres because I didn't want to be.dependent on EAxis' decisions for The Sims franchise.

Also what you wrote doesn't make sense: "no the devs didn't do enough for adding gameplay and animations in both sims 2 and sims 3 if it was the case". But the devs DID put plenty of gameplay in both TS3 and TS2, so it's not necessary to install mods that add gameplay to them. TS4 on the other hand, you definitely need to install mods to add gameplay and fix to sims to do what they are suppose to do.

I doubt that few people outside of the forum play TS4 without mods, especially in live mode, because I've seen people complain about TS4 too outside of this forum. If they only create sims and build lots, then I can understand why they won't need mods.

This forum is only toxic because of the direction TS4 is going in and more and more people are getting fed up with it and voicing that.

Please respect other people's opinions, and views.

"ClarionOfJoy;c-17616550" wrote:

"Simsophonique;c-17616406" wrote:
Now I fixed my sims 2 game and I can finally play it, TS4 does not affect my ability to play TS2 at all, neither it doesn't affect me the enjoyement I have for the sims 3, it is still intouched. I play the 3 games and I do not care of people thinks of because you often act so weird in this community you are always chasing people who enjoys only the sims 4 or only the sims 3 with a passionate hate you are ridiculous in the end !
TS4 lacks of gameplay ? Download mods which add gameplay the modding community is brillant and they bring everything you need even before EA. Same for the sims 3 and the sims 2 mod community that bring so much !

Yes TS4 lacks gameplay. You never needed to install any gameplay in TS2 because the devs did their job like they're suppose to. Now the modders are doing the devs' jobs only they're not getting paid for it. And you people are encouraging this by buying this piece of trash game and making excuses for it's poor quality.. I'm not the one who is being ridiculous, smh......

Aren't being kinda harsh ?

"jimbbq;d-977969" wrote:
I wonder if this happens to anyone else. I launched TS2 today (mac super collection) played for a short while and got frustrated and closed it. Going to a community lot Down town is a drag, pick up the phone wait for the taxi then two loading screens. When you come back the time is all messed up. Getting a job promotion requires keeping up with friendships ... it is rather illogical and irritating ! And CAS omg without CC there are like 5 clothes for kids lol. Building and placing items is rage inducing. Yea ts4 has a lot of problem but it has made some significant improvements too. It makes gameplay very streamlined (sometimes way too much though) CAS and BB items are amazing. Building is super fun. We just need some long term gameplay like harder aspirations (This is where ts2 shines) and Ts3 real estates system to spend your money. Hopefully the sims team is listening to us and make ts4 an amazing game it is meant to be.

Do you use a userstartup.cheat file for TS2? You can use that to either enable cheats by default when the game loads or you can create shorter nicknames for each cheat so instead of having to type out moveObjects on each time I just type moveon and moveoff. The SnapObjectsToGrid cheat lets you freely place items (I use snapon and snapoff ) and if you put boolProp allow45DegreeAngleOfRotation true into your userstartup file you can rotate objects eight different directions instead of the standard four and you don't need to turn the cheat on every time, it just works once you put it in the cheat file.

The friendship needed for promotions I ended up using a mod (no friends needed for careers by twojeffs) to stop the requirement because it's just not realistic.

For the community time difference with the home lot there is a mod for that as well.

The loading screens don't bother me now as it loads quickly on this computer. TS4 has loading screens so it doesn't feel that different to me.

The graphics don't really bother me that much. I look for upgraded textures for things that do bother me. (There's mods for sharper looking speech bubbles, updates to the neighbourhood terrain/trees etc) The only thing is some CC that looked a little janky back in the day looks really bad now so I either get rid of it or I may get around to updating the textures myself but there's some really quality stuff out there and people are still creating for the game.
Most annoyances or outdated graphics can be solved with CC and mods but if you don't like modding your game I can see where things could get irritating.

"Cinebar;c-17647769" wrote:

"bunny-gypsy;c-17647766" wrote:
Well, to me, Sims 4 feels faster in loading for the moment, but I also like Sims 4’s more... faster gratification in gameplay, I guess? I don’t know how to explain it, but something about Sims 4 just feels faster for me. Whenever I have a short time to play, I always pick Sims 4, and it works pretty smooth for me, even when I has a family in each neighborhood. (I don’t have really use mods or CC in Sims 4 except maybe the MCC one occasionally.)

Not sure how to explain, but Sims 4 feels more faster and more relaxing to play for me compared to Sims 2.

Yes, I think it is faster in how time flies by and how fast time moves (daylight) when trying to make Sims do stuff like gain a level. You look up and it's ten at night. I enjoyed some of TS4 but when I want to play a deeper game and do much more things than just play I play TS2. When I feel creative I go to TS2. But for a quick session like less than an hour I did play TS4.

This.

TS4 expansion packs killed my old laptop (overheating) and my game stuttered all the time. With my new laptop, TS4 graphics are amazing, and I don't have stuttering issues any more. TS2 still loads slowly for me with all my CC, but I still prefer waiting for that game than the fast loading times for TS4. I play TS4 to explore what can be done in the game, I play TS2 to play the sims and create stories, worlds, legacies, and custom content.

Using the open world mods for TS2 (despite the gorgeous graphics of TS4) I prefer my TS2 hood. It's unique and huge. I also like looking at world builders' creations as they are better skilled than I am and their screenshots and edits are gorgeous; TS4 is a bit plasticy in comparison. I cannot build in TS4, I get frustrated with the lot constraints and usually just end up going to the gallery and downloading something so that I don't have to think about the world state anymore.

The only thing I noticed that would make TS4 comparable to TS2 in relation to how fast it is, is that TS4 loading takes a while for me when I play Get to Work gameplay. It feels like I'm loading up a TS2 game then.

"Cinebar;c-17647769" wrote:

Yes, I think it is faster in how time flies by and how fast time moves (daylight) when trying to make Sims do stuff like gain a level. You look up and it's ten at night. I enjoyed some of TS4 but when I want to play a deeper game and do much more things than just play I play TS2. When I feel creative I go to TS2. But for a quick session like less than an hour I did play TS4.

Yes, this is pretty much how it goes for me as well. :) I have been getting lees time to play games, so my time is short, and Sims 4 fits the bill of quicker spurts of gameplay. (I think it has more frequent loading screens than Sims 2, I think? But it still feels somewhat fast for me.)

When I do have those moments of longer time frames and want more depth and challenging gameplay, better AI, and more content, then I would play Sims 2 and Sims 3. :) I would still miss the feel of Sims 4, but those two predecessors have more to offer content-wise.

"bunny-gypsy;c-17647766" wrote:
Well, to me, Sims 4 feels faster in loading for the moment, but I also like Sims 4’s more... faster gratification in gameplay, I guess? I don’t know how to explain it, but something about Sims 4 just feels faster for me. Whenever I have a short time to play, I always pick Sims 4, and it works pretty smooth for me, even when I has a family in each neighborhood. (I don’t have really use mods or CC in Sims 4 except maybe the MCC one occasionally.)

Not sure how to explain, but Sims 4 feels more faster and more relaxing to play for me compared to Sims 2.

Yes, I think it is faster in how time flies by and how fast time moves (daylight) when trying to make Sims do stuff like gain a level. You look up and it's ten at night. I enjoyed some of TS4 but when I want to play a deeper game and do much more things than just play I play TS2. When I feel creative I go to TS2. But for a quick session like less than an hour I did play TS4.

Well, to me, Sims 4 feels faster in loading for the moment, but I also like Sims 4’s more... faster gratification in gameplay, I guess? I don’t know how to explain it, but something about Sims 4 just feels faster for me. Whenever I have a short time to play, I always pick Sims 4, and it works pretty smooth for me, even when I has a family in each neighborhood. (I don’t have really use mods or CC in Sims 4 except maybe the MCC one occasionally.)

Not sure how to explain, but Sims 4 feels more faster and more relaxing to play for me compared to Sims 2.

"bunny-gypsy;c-17647752" wrote:
Well, for me, personally, for my own computer, Sims 4 is smoother and faster loading. Just like how some folks said Sims 3 is smoother for their computers. *shrugs*

Sims 3 with mods work better now, but waiting for that first long loading screen is a bit of a pain if I want to just quickly pick up and just start playing for a short time.

TS4 will load faster if someone removes all their saves, removes all their library builds etc. But you know so will TS3 and TS2. As time goes on all these games get bogged down with things we do in them. Such as build more and more neighborhoods, and or more and more lots saved to a library or in TS2's case in log catalog and if we add mods that are known to cause some lag either in loading a hood, game, and or lot.

We all know if we don't have any lots in any hood, and started a game with nothing in it, such as all vacant lots and never played world/hood, the times is like five seconds in all of them. It's why devs have been telling us for years in all of them to start a new game instead of loading an old save.