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Anonymous
13 years ago
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Please help me figure out why my GPU rating is so low given my high ratings

Hi,

I recently got a new gaming computer to better enhance my ts3 experience.  It has good ratings.  Here is the relevent info pasted from my device config log: 

=== Application info ===
Name: Sims3
Version:
Build: Release
=== Rating info ===
GPU: 5 GPU Memory: 1 CPU: 4 RAM: 4 CPU Speed: 3392 Threading: 3
Adjusted CPU: 4123 RAM: 8130 Adjusted RAM: 7618 Cores: 4
=== Machine info ===
OS version: Windows 8 6.2.9200
OS prod type: 0
OS major ver: 6
OS minor ver: 2
OS SP major ver: 0
OS SP minor ver: 0
OS is 64Bit: 1
CPU: GenuineIntel
Brand: Intel(R) Core(TM) i7-3770 CPU @ 3.40GHz
Family: 6
Model: 10
Cores: 4
HT: 1
x64: 0
Memory: 8130MB
Free memory: 5154MB
User: Rachel
Computer: RACHELPC
=== Graphics device info ===
Number: 0
Name (driver): AMD Radeon HD 8570
Name (database): AMD Radeon HD 8570 Series [Found: 1, Matched: 1]
Vendor: ATI
Chipset: Vendor: 1002, Device: 6611, Board: 90c41b0a, Chipset: 0000
Driver: aticfx32.dll, Version: 8.17.10.1172, GUID: D7B71EE2-2551-11CF-2E7C-CEB0BEC2C535
Driver version: 1172
Monitor: \\.\DISPLAY1
Texture memory: 32MB <<OVERRIDE>>
Vertex program: 3.0
Pixel program: 3.0
Hardware TnL: 1

As you can see, my GPU is reated 5, my CPU 4, & my RAM 4. I have a quad core computer.  I just cannot understand why my GPU memory is rated 1 by the game, I think that my old computer assigned it a rating of 3 and my specs were no where near as good.  

I'm concerned becasue after spending so much money on a comp, of course I want it to run on the highest settings it possibly can. Is there anything I can do to increase the gpu memory's recognized rating? 

I don't know if it matters, but I did have to follow the tutorial here to get my newer AMD 8500 series card recognized: http://simswiki.info/wiki.php?title=Game_Help:Getting_new_graphics_cards_recognized_by_the_game  As you can see from the above log, it worked & is found/matched. 

Thank you very much for any insight.  

  • Hi there! It seems you got one of those pre-installed graphics cards.
    The most interesting part here is that the latest 7000s are more powerful.
    These 8000 ones are actually rebranded models of some older cards.

    For example, my custom built gaming computer uses a Radeon HD 7870.
    The PlayStation 4, coming out later this year, also uses an equivalent of that.
    So, the actual successors to the 7000s will be 9000s rather than 8000s.

    To give you an idea of the difference between the two cards we got, take a look:
    http://www.game-debate.com/gpu/index.php?gid=1483&gid2=675&compare=radeon-hd-8570-2gb-ddr3-oem-vs-radeon-hd-7870

    In other words, get another graphics card. 😕mileylol:
    Message me if you've got any more questions. :cathappy:

  • Do you actually have any issues or is this just a case of having too much info ? Meaning, if you wouldn't know about that ratings file, would you even be here ?

    I'm really not that good with graphic cards but if you don't have any issues and your card is recognized, I wouldn't bother so much about that rating in that file. Too me, it all looks great.

    If it does bother you, try asking at modthesims. They wrote that article and they probably know more what it means and why you're GPU RAM isn't higher.

    Sorry, I can't help you further.

  • The more memory your video card has the higher the resolution you can run. It also affects how the computer manages the frame buffer. Typically (not always) a video card (not an integrated video chip) will have dedicated high speed (faster then main memory) memory chips. The amount of memory needed is determined how the video device driver uses video memory. If the device driver is double frame buffering it will require twice the amount of frame buffer memory. Will more memory give better performance - probably not but it will allow higher resolution (if the video processor is fast enough) and will help prevent video distortion (like tearing).

    There is much rebranding and model number games being played by graphics manufacturers. A higher model number does no always mean a more powerful chip. This is one item you really need to do your homework beore you buy.

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  • Hi there! It seems you got one of those pre-installed graphics cards.
    The most interesting part here is that the latest 7000s are more powerful.
    These 8000 ones are actually rebranded models of some older cards.

    For example, my custom built gaming computer uses a Radeon HD 7870.
    The PlayStation 4, coming out later this year, also uses an equivalent of that.
    So, the actual successors to the 7000s will be 9000s rather than 8000s.

    To give you an idea of the difference between the two cards we got, take a look:
    http://www.game-debate.com/gpu/index.php?gid=1483&gid2=675&compare=radeon-hd-8570-2gb-ddr3-oem-vs-radeon-hd-7870

    In other words, get another graphics card. 😕mileylol:
    Message me if you've got any more questions. :cathappy:

  • Anonymous's avatar
    Anonymous
    13 years ago

    Hi  & thank you very much for your answer & the link to that helpful website. Yeah, it came with the computer, who would know that the lesser values are more powerful! 😕mileyhappy:

    Do you know if higher GPU memory improves game performance, or does it just mainly improve graphical quality.  I ask because my graphics are really, really good actually, & although my game performance is great thus far, if even higher game performance comes with more GPU memory I would be tempted to buy another card.

    Thank you. 😕mileyhappy:

  • Anonymous's avatar
    Anonymous
    13 years ago

    Thank you for responding Crinrict & for posting the dxdiag guide. I apologize for not being able to check this site sooner!

    Here is my relevant dxDiag info: 

    Thank you. 😕mileyhappy:

    ------------------
    System Information
    ------------------
    Time of this report: 6/22/2013, 19:29:36
    Machine name: RACHELPC
    Operating System: Windows 8 64-bit (6.2, Build 9200) (9200.win8_gdr.130410-1505)
    Language: English (Regional Setting: English)
    System Manufacturer: Hewlett-Packard
    System Model: h8-1520t
    BIOS: 8.18
    Processor: Intel(R) Core(TM) i7-3770 CPU @ 3.40GHz (8 CPUs), ~3.4GHz
    Memory: 8192MB RAM
    Available OS Memory: 8130MB RAM
    Page File: 6165MB used, 10156MB available
    Windows Dir: C:\windows
    DirectX Version: DirectX 11
    DX Setup Parameters: Not found
    User DPI Setting: Using System DPI
    System DPI Setting: 96 DPI (100 percent)
    DWM DPI Scaling: Disabled
    DxDiag Version: 6.02.9200.16384 32bit Unicode


    ---------------
    Display Devices
    ---------------
    Card name: AMD Radeon HD 8570
    Manufacturer: Advanced Micro Devices, Inc.
    Chip type: AMD Radeon Graphics Processor (0x6611)
    DAC type: Internal DAC(400MHz)
    Device Type: Full Device
    Device Key: Enum\PCI\VEN_1002&DEV_6611&SUBSYS_90C41B0A&REV_00
    Display Memory: 4095 MB
    Dedicated Memory: 2030 MB
    Shared Memory: 2065 MB
    Current Mode: 1280 x 1024 (32 bit) (60Hz)
    Monitor Name: Generic PnP Monitor
    Monitor Model: SAMSUNG
    Monitor Id: SAM01A5
    Native Mode: 1280 x 1024(p) (60.020Hz)
    Output Type: HD15
    Driver Name: aticfx64.dll,aticfx64.dll,aticfx64.dll,aticfx32,aticfx32,aticfx32,atiumd64.dll,atidxx64.dll,atidxx64.dll,atiumdag,atidxx32,atidxx32,atiumdva,atiumd6a.cap,atitmm64.dll
    Driver File Version: 8.17.0010.1172 (English)
    Driver Version: 9.12.2.3000
    DDI Version: 11.1
    Feature Levels: 11.1,11.0,10.1,10.0,9.3,9.2,9.1
    Driver Model: WDDM 1.2
    Graphics Preemption: DMA
    Compute Preemption: DMA
    Driver Attributes: Final Retail
    Driver Date/Size: 2/20/2013 12:06:18, 1164248 bytes
    WHQL Logo'd: Yes
    WHQL Date Stamp:
    Device Identifier: {D7B71EE2-2551-11CF-2E7C-CEB0BEC2C535}
    Vendor ID: 0x1002
    Device ID: 0x6611
    SubSys ID: 0x90C41B0A
    Revision ID: 0x0000
    Driver Strong Name: oem48.inf:cb0ae41483dd2e4f:ati2mtag_R501:9.12.2.3000😛ci\ven_1002&dev_6611&subsys_90c41b0a
    Rank Of Driver: 00E00001
    Video Accel: ModeMPEG2_A ModeMPEG2_C ModeVC1_C ModeWMV9_C
    DXVA2 Modes: DXVA2_ModeMPEG2_VLD DXVA2_ModeMPEG2_IDCT DXVA2_ModeH264_VLD_NoFGT DXVA2_ModeVC1_VLD DXVA2_ModeVC1_IDCT DXVA2_ModeWMV9_IDCT
    Deinterlace Caps: {6E8329FF-B642-418B-BCF0-BCB6591E255F}: Format(In/Out)=(YUY2,YUY2) Frames(Prev/Fwd/Back)=(0,0,1) Caps=VideoProcess_YUV2RGB VideoProcess_StretchX VideoProcess_StretchY DeinterlaceTech_PixelAdaptive
    {335AA36E-7884-43A4-9C91-7F87FAF3E37E}: Format(In/Out)=(YUY2,YUY2) Frames(Prev/Fwd/Back)=(0,0,0) Caps=VideoProcess_YUV2RGB VideoProcess_StretchX VideoProcess_StretchY DeinterlaceTech_BOBVerticalStretch
    {5A54A0C9-C7EC-4BD9-8EDE-F3C75DC4393B}: Format(In/Out)=(YUY2,YUY2) Frames(Prev/Fwd/Back)=(0,0,0) Caps=VideoProcess_YUV2RGB VideoProcess_StretchX VideoProcess_StretchY
    {6E8329FF-B642-418B-BCF0-BCB6591E255F}: Format(In/Out)=(UYVY,UYVY) Frames(Prev/Fwd/Back)=(0,0,1) Caps=VideoProcess_YUV2RGB VideoProcess_StretchX VideoProcess_StretchY DeinterlaceTech_PixelAdaptive
    {335AA36E-7884-43A4-9C91-7F87FAF3E37E}: Format(In/Out)=(UYVY,UYVY) Frames(Prev/Fwd/Back)=(0,0,0) Caps=VideoProcess_YUV2RGB VideoProcess_StretchX VideoProcess_StretchY DeinterlaceTech_BOBVerticalStretch
    {5A54A0C9-C7EC-4BD9-8EDE-F3C75DC4393B}: Format(In/Out)=(UYVY,UYVY) Frames(Prev/Fwd/Back)=(0,0,0) Caps=VideoProcess_YUV2RGB VideoProcess_StretchX VideoProcess_StretchY
    {5A54A0C9-C7EC-4BD9-8EDE-F3C75DC4393B}: Format(In/Out)=(YV12,0x32315659) Frames(Prev/Fwd/Back)=(0,0,0) Caps=
    {3C5323C1-6FB7-44F5-9081-056BF2EE449D}: Format(In/Out)=(NV12,0x3231564e) Frames(Prev/Fwd/Back)=(0,0,2) Caps=VideoProcess_YUV2RGB VideoProcess_StretchX VideoProcess_StretchY DeinterlaceTech_PixelAdaptive
    {552C0DAD-CCBC-420B-83C8-74943CF9F1A6}: Format(In/Out)=(NV12,0x3231564e) Frames(Prev/Fwd/Back)=(0,0,2) Caps=VideoProcess_YUV2RGB VideoProcess_StretchX VideoProcess_StretchY DeinterlaceTech_PixelAdaptive
    {6E8329FF-B642-418B-BCF0-BCB6591E255F}: Format(In/Out)=(NV12,0x3231564e) Frames(Prev/Fwd/Back)=(0,0,1) Caps=VideoProcess_YUV2RGB VideoProcess_StretchX VideoProcess_StretchY DeinterlaceTech_PixelAdaptive
    {335AA36E-7884-43A4-9C91-7F87FAF3E37E}: Format(In/Out)=(NV12,0x3231564e) Frames(Prev/Fwd/Back)=(0,0,0) Caps=VideoProcess_YUV2RGB VideoProcess_StretchX VideoProcess_StretchY DeinterlaceTech_BOBVerticalStretch
    {5A54A0C9-C7EC-4BD9-8EDE-F3C75DC4393B}: Format(In/Out)=(NV12,0x3231564e) Frames(Prev/Fwd/Back)=(0,0,0) Caps=VideoProcess_YUV2RGB VideoProcess_StretchX VideoProcess_StretchY
    {5A54A0C9-C7EC-4BD9-8EDE-F3C75DC4393B}: Format(In/Out)=(IMC1,UNKNOWN) Frames(Prev/Fwd/Back)=(0,0,0) Caps=
    {5A54A0C9-C7EC-4BD9-8EDE-F3C75DC4393B}: Format(In/Out)=(IMC2,UNKNOWN) Frames(Prev/Fwd/Back)=(0,0,0) Caps=
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    D3D9 Overlay: Not Supported
    DXVA-HD: Not Supported
    DDraw Status: Enabled
    D3D Status: Enabled
    AGP Status: Enabled


    --------------
    System Devices
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    Name: Intel(R) 7 Series/C216 Chipset Family SMBus Host Controller - 1E22
    Device ID: PCI\VEN_8086&DEV_1E22&SUBSYS_2AD5103C&REV_04\3&11583659&0&FB
    Driver: n/a

    Name: Intel(R) 7 Series/C216 Chipset Family PCI Express Root Port 5 - 1E18
    Device ID: PCI\VEN_8086&DEV_1E18&SUBSYS_2AD5103C&REV_C4\3&11583659&0&E4
    Driver: n/a

    Name: Intel(R) 7 Series/C216 Chipset Family PCI Express Root Port 1 - 1E10
    Device ID: PCI\VEN_8086&DEV_1E10&SUBSYS_2AD5103C&REV_C4\3&11583659&0&E0
    Driver: n/a

    Name: Ralink RT5390R 802.11bgn Wi-Fi Adapter
    Device ID: PCI\VEN_1814&DEV_539B&SUBSYS_18ED103C&REV_00\4&131A977F&0&00E4
    Driver: n/a

    Name: Intel(R) Management Engine Interface
    Device ID: PCI\VEN_8086&DEV_1E3A&SUBSYS_2AD5103C&REV_04\3&11583659&0&B0
    Driver: n/a

    Name: Intel(R) USB 3.0 eXtensible Host Controller - 0100 (Microsoft)
    Device ID: PCI\VEN_8086&DEV_1E31&SUBSYS_2AD5103C&REV_04\3&11583659&0&A0
    Driver: n/a

    Name: High Definition Audio Controller
    Device ID: PCI\VEN_8086&DEV_1E20&SUBSYS_2AD5103C&REV_04\3&11583659&0&D8
    Driver: n/a

    Name: Intel(R) 7 Series/C216 Chipset Family PCI Express Root Port 6 - 1E1A
    Device ID: PCI\VEN_8086&DEV_1E1A&SUBSYS_2AD5103C&REV_C4\3&11583659&0&E5
    Driver: n/a

    Name: Xeon(R) processor E3-1200 v2/3rd Gen Core processor DRAM Controller - 0150
    Device ID: PCI\VEN_8086&DEV_0150&SUBSYS_2AD5103C&REV_09\3&11583659&0&00
    Driver: n/a

    Name: Intel(R) 7 Series/C216 Chipset Family USB Enhanced Host Controller - 1E26
    Device ID: PCI\VEN_8086&DEV_1E26&SUBSYS_2AD5103C&REV_04\3&11583659&0&E8
    Driver: n/a

    Name: High Definition Audio Bus
    Device ID: PCI\VEN_1002&DEV_AAB0&SUBSYS_AAB01B0A&REV_00\4&7188812&0&0108
    Driver: n/a

    Name: Intel(R) Z75 Express Chipset LPC Controller - 1E46
    Device ID: PCI\VEN_8086&DEV_1E46&SUBSYS_2AD5103C&REV_04\3&11583659&0&F8
    Driver: n/a

    Name: Intel(R) 7 Series/C216 Chipset Family USB Enhanced Host Controller - 1E2D
    Device ID: PCI\VEN_8086&DEV_1E2D&SUBSYS_2AD5103C&REV_04\3&11583659&0&D0
    Driver: n/a

    Name: Xeon(R) processor E3-1200 v2/3rd Gen Core processor PCI Express Root Port - 0151
    Device ID: PCI\VEN_8086&DEV_0151&SUBSYS_2AD5103C&REV_09\3&11583659&0&08
    Driver: n/a

    Name: Intel(R) 7 Series/C216 Chipset Family SATA AHCI Controller
    Device ID: PCI\VEN_8086&DEV_1E02&SUBSYS_2AD5103C&REV_04\3&11583659&0&FA
    Driver: n/a

    Name: AMD Radeon HD 8570
    Device ID: PCI\VEN_1002&DEV_6611&SUBSYS_90C41B0A&REV_00\4&7188812&0&0008
    Driver: n/a

    Name: Qualcomm Atheros AR8161 PCI-E Gigabit Ethernet Controller (NDIS 6.30)
    Device ID: PCI\VEN_1969&DEV_1091&SUBSYS_2AD5103C&REV_08\4&2072C9EC&0&00E5
    Driver: n/a

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    Drive: C:
    Free Space: 795.3 GB
    Total Space: 933.6 GB
    File System: NTFS
    Model: WDC WD10EZEX-60ZF5A0

    Drive: D:
    Free Space: 2.3 GB
    Total Space: 18.8 GB
    File System: NTFS
    Model: WDC WD10EZEX-60ZF5A0

    Drive: F:
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    Driver: c:\windows\system32\drivers\cdrom.sys, 6.02.9200.16384 (English), , 0 bytes

  • crinrict's avatar
    crinrict
    Hero+
    13 years ago

    Do you actually have any issues or is this just a case of having too much info ? Meaning, if you wouldn't know about that ratings file, would you even be here ?

    I'm really not that good with graphic cards but if you don't have any issues and your card is recognized, I wouldn't bother so much about that rating in that file. Too me, it all looks great.

    If it does bother you, try asking at modthesims. They wrote that article and they probably know more what it means and why you're GPU RAM isn't higher.

    Sorry, I can't help you further.

  • roberta591's avatar
    roberta591
    Hero (Retired)
    13 years ago

    The more memory your video card has the higher the resolution you can run. It also affects how the computer manages the frame buffer. Typically (not always) a video card (not an integrated video chip) will have dedicated high speed (faster then main memory) memory chips. The amount of memory needed is determined how the video device driver uses video memory. If the device driver is double frame buffering it will require twice the amount of frame buffer memory. Will more memory give better performance - probably not but it will allow higher resolution (if the video processor is fast enough) and will help prevent video distortion (like tearing).

    There is much rebranding and model number games being played by graphics manufacturers. A higher model number does no always mean a more powerful chip. This is one item you really need to do your homework beore you buy.

  • Anonymous's avatar
    Anonymous
    13 years ago

    Oh ok, thank you Roberta for your detailed answer! 😕mileyhappy:The resolution is good enough for me so I think I'll just stick it out with this card for a while. The graphics actually look very good, and the everything on the screen loads a lot faster than my old comp on the highest settings.  It's very helpful to know that higher models don't always mean more powerful chips. I'm glad I learned that numbers/manufactuererscan be misleading. 

  • Anonymous's avatar
    Anonymous
    13 years ago

    So sorry I didn't see your reply Crinrict! Silly me I somehow missed it.

    I'm not having any issues, I just was wondering if the low rating could lead to any issues if that makes sense.  Anyways, it seems like it's ok. If I want further info I'll try the folks at modthesims like you suggested.  Thank you for your response and help! 😕mileyhappy:

  • crinrict's avatar
    crinrict
    Hero+
    13 years ago

    You're welcome


    Could you please accept a solution so people know that this is solved and what the solution was.

    Thank you

  • Anonymous's avatar
    Anonymous
    13 years ago

    Ok, I did. Sorry to keep you waiting Crinricht, I have tried in vain for the past couple of days to long in to this site, but it finally let me! 😕mileyhappy:

    Thank you again for your time and help! 😕mileyhappy:

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