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Harriet13's avatar
5 years ago

Sims 3 crashing on new gaming laptop

Hi everyone,

I've just splurged on a brand new gaming PC after running Sims 3 on my Macbook (mid 2010) for 10 years. While the gaming quality is excellent and feels like I'm playing a brand new game, it constantly crashes without warning - no dialogue boxes explaining the error and no common theme to the crash - just exiting to desktop. Can be a few minutes in, can be a few hours in, very inconsistent. For reference, I run most of my games off Origin as I couldn't get Sims 3 base game to work off the disc alone.

I've been searching for days on the forums and YouTube for answers - seems a lot of people have a similar issue - but no matter what I try I can't get the crashing to stop. 

Here is a list of all of the Troubleshooting I've tried, my computer specs, plus have attached my DXDiag. I'm not very computer savvy so I've only done what I feel comfortable with.

Computer Specs:

HP OMEN Laptop 15-ek0005na NVIDIA® GeForce

  • Intel® Core™ i7-10750H Processor
  • RAM: 16 GB / Storage: 1 TB SSD
  • Graphics: NVIDIA GeForce RTX 2070 MaxQ 8 GB
  • Full HD screen / 144 Hz

- Running Windows 10

- No other games installed other than Sims 3 and 4 (which I just can't get into fun-wise), hardly any other files, and only Discord, Origin, Steam, and Spotify downloaded other than Sims.

Sims 3 games:

Base game

Late Night

World Adventures

Generations

Pets

Seasons

Showtime (installed post-crashing)

University Life

Ambitions

Town Life Stuff (installed post-crashing)

Outdoor Living Stuff (installed post-crashing)

Master Suite Stuff

- Patch 1.69

Things I've tried:

- Removed all mods

- "Repaired" game through Origin

- Disabled DEP (some files wouldn't allow DEP to be disabled)

- Removed all save files (to see if a file had corrupted and caused the crash)

- Turned off WiFi

- Checked all drivers are up to date

- Run in compatibilty mode (XP, Vista, 95, 8)
- Checked CPU, Memory, GPU usage while running game in Task Manager, never particularly high amounts being used 

Because of the amount of money I spent on this laptop with the main purpose of running the Sims 3, I'm feeling pretty stressed about these crashes! If anyone could offer any guidance I would appreciate it greatly! Thank you in advance!

47 Replies

  • puzzlezaddict's avatar
    puzzlezaddict
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    5 years ago

    @Harriet13  Is Sims 3 still crashing?  Since it's been a while, I'd like to see a new dxdiag before making any more suggestions.  I'd also like to see a crash dump, that is if the game is crashing.  Click Windows key-R and copy and paste this:

    %LocalAppData%\CrashDumps

    When you enter, you'll see a list of .dmp files.  If one of them is from Sims 3, please upload it to a third-party filehosting site (Google Drive, Dropbox, etc.) and link it here.

    If there is no Sims 3 .dmp file, you can enable them:

    • Hit the Windows key, type "command prompt" in the box, right-click on Command Prompt in the search results, and select Run as Administrator
    • In the window, paste "reg add "HKLM\Software\Microsoft\Windows\Windows Error Reporting\LocalDumps\devenv.exe" /v DumpType /d 2 /t REG_DWORD" without the outside quotes into the box, and enter
    • Launch Sims 3 and wait for it to crash (whether you can play at all or not)
    • After it crashes, wait for any crash dialogs to finish
    • Then hit Windows key-R and paste "%LOCALAPPDATA%\CrashDumps" without quotes into the box, and enter
    • Upload the last .dmp file to a free filesharing site and link it here
    • When you want to undo the auto crash log dumps, open Command Prompt as before, paste "reg delete "HKLM\Software\Microsoft\Windows\Windows Error Reporting\LocalDumps" /f" without the outside quotes, and enter.

    While testing, please play in a clean Sims 3 user folder, just so that there aren't any complicating factors.

  • Harriet13's avatar
    Harriet13
    5 years ago

    @puzzlezaddictHey! Still crashing all the time!!

    DXdiag attached. Added a few crash dumps, not sure if that's helpful but maybe there's a common theme:

    Latest: https://drive.google.com/file/d/1zY3q9pZo0MkE3z07bu9Jz3lfaOSaMMNB/view?usp=sharing

    Yesterday:
    https://drive.google.com/file/d/1vzsNtyx7rs_SvLB4HRJLRBwdmyOLjzHy/view?usp=sharing

    https://drive.google.com/file/d/1oIhHIhuFVQswBqZ9Z-IyqbihI1BPb5Qn/view?usp=sharing


    I'm also not sure if it's worth noting, but I played CyberPunk on this PC and a bit of TS4 and haven't had any crashing problems with either. I'm sure it's because they're newer games and this is a new PC, but may be relevant.

  • puzzlezaddict's avatar
    puzzlezaddict
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    5 years ago

    @Harriet13  All three crash dumps contain essentially the same information: Sims 3 crashed with an access violation, specifically an invalid pointer read, and the faulting module was d3d9.dll, a component of DirectX 9.  Cyberpunk doesn't use DX9, but Sims 4 does, so it would be strange, although not impossible, for an issue with DX9 or the components of the graphics driver that interact with it to show up in Sims 3 but not Sims 4.

    Still, the error is obvious, and the first thing to do is to run the DX9 installer, again.  Try the one within Sims 3's program files.  Unless you changed the default install location in Origin, the full file path will be:

    Program Files (x86)\Origin Games\The Sims 3\install\DirectX

    Right-click on DXSETUP.exe and select "Run as administrator."  Restart your computer when it's done, and let me know if it throws an error.

    If that doesn't help, do you run MSI Afterburner or Rivatuner Statistics Server while you play?  If so, please close these or any other similar apps and test.  Make sure they're not running in the background; you can check the Task Manager's background processes list.

    If that doesn't help either, I'd need the actual link to the driver download page for your laptop.  The screenshots don't have all the relevant info, for example the version numbers for most of the drivers.  Again, the page doesn't have any info about your personal computer, just the model you bought, but I can't be sure I'm looking at exactly the right page unless you link it for me.

  • Harriet13's avatar
    Harriet13
    5 years ago

    Finished the DXSETUPe.exe Didn't get any error messages! 

    I don't run anything else when I'm playing Sims 3, I've honestly never even heard of MSI Afterburner or Rivatuner Statistics Server! I'm not computer savvy in the slightest!

    Here's a link to the drivers page:

    OMEN Laptop - 15-ek0005na Software and Driver Downloads | HP® Customer Support 

    Now that I've reinstalled DirectX9 as instructed, I'll play a little and see if I get another crash and send you the relevant DXDiag and Crash Dump.

    Thanks again for your help!

  • puzzlezaddict's avatar
    puzzlezaddict
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    5 years ago

    @Harriet13  The crash lists yet more DX9 errors, but since you've already tried to address them in the usual ways, the issue is more likely to be your graphics driver.  I mentioned the process back in November, but it looks like you never tried it, but there really isn't anywhere else to go from here, at least until the drivers have been replaced.  I'll post the instructions again, since the download links have changed a bit.

    Download Display Driver Uninstaller from here:

    https://www.wagnardsoft.com/forums/viewtopic.php?f=5&t=3450

    Download the Intel graphics driver dated November 16, and the Nvidia graphics driver dated November 17, from the HP download page:

    https://support.hp.com/gb-en/drivers/selfservice/omen-15-ek0000-laptop-pc-series/32827267/model/34766871?sku=3F854EA

    Next, take your computer completely offline—disable wifi and/or pull the ethernet cord—and double-click the DDU.exe.  Take note of where the file will land, and click Extract.  If it's easier, you can copy the path and then paste it into the address bar in a File Explorer window.  Open the folder and then launch Display Driver Uninstaller.exe, and you'll get a message that you're not in Safe Mode.  Click OK, then go to Options and enable Safe Mode dialog.  Here's a screenshot of what your options should look like; make sure the box in red is checked:


    Close options, and the DDU, and then open the DDU.exe again.  For launch options, choose "Safe Mode (Recommended)," and then click Reboot to Safe Mode (you'll need your password, so find it before rebooting).  Once you login, you'll see this:



    In the blue box, choose GPU, then Nvidia if it's not already showing.  Then click Clean and Restart (red box).

    Repeat the process, except now choose Intel for the GPU.

    Once your computer has rebooted, now back in normal mode, run the Intel driver as an admin: right-click on the download and select "Run as administrator."  Restart your computer and do the same for the Nvidia driver.

    Go back online and try to play.  If you get another crash, let me know (another crash dump would be helpful), and I'll ask for a second opinion.

  • Harriet13's avatar
    Harriet13
    5 years ago
    @puzzlezaddict Yes, this is the bit I didn't try through nerves! I'll get onto this in the next couple of days when I have time to sit down and concentrate on it properly and let you know how it goes! Thanks again.

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