More Interactions + Sexual Orientation Selection

"lisamwitt;c-17488129" wrote:

"Ravenna;c-17488012" wrote:
I was about to agree with the topic of an orientation switch until I read this one in-particular and found that what you're really asking for is a 'hetero' switch.

You're the second person to say that, but I don't see it... I just took it as options for sexual preference would be nice.

That's how I understood it, too, especially since I've never actually seen any autonomous same-sex flirting in my game (only if two sims of the same sex had a pre-established romantic relationship, but then I was the one who pre-established it). If anything, I would use this option to stop my gay/lesbian sims from flirting with the opposite sex, because it really annoys me when that happens.

Then again, even if someone does actually use this option to disable same-sex relationships in their game, I don't consider that my problem. I have two rivalling churches in my game, which some people would probably find offensive and/or too close to real life, even though I'm using fictional religions that I made up myself, but that's not my problem either. The point is, people can do in their game whatever they want, and are free to use or not use what the game provides as they see fit, be that sexualities, gender settings, skin colours, ethnicities, occults, etc.

But yeah, I would also appreciate a sexuality option in CAS, among many other things such as a chemistry system.

Honestly, I don't want an orientation switch for sims. I think instead turn ons and offs should allow you to do this in an indirect way similar to TS2. You could have male sims that were attracted to beards and have makeup as a turn off for example. That in itself would make it so that the sim leaned more towards male sims because most of the female sims in the game would wear makeup and they could not have beards.

My main sim is actually bisexual so I guess it doesn't matter to me too much, but I still think it would be nice to have a proper sexual preference option in CAS or maybe just a chemistry/attraction system and a better way to control how faithful our sims are to each other. I really want romance to be expanded on as a whole though e.g. turn ons/offs, improved weddings, more interactions like cuddling in bed and slow dancing etc. Any options that help with storytelling and adding personality are welcome in my game.

What I notice that when teens kiss, the one who is being kissed swipes the other's hand away when it goes to rest on their butt. Now, if the two of them are madly in love with each other and have kissed numerous times, they shouldn't mind it.

I think there needs to be something...I've had straight Sims in relationships flirt with same sex roommates. And a lot of people I think have had issues with gay Sims flirting with the opposite sex too. Not the first time I've heard that on here.

I think a switch is limiting and implies a default, which we should stay away from. So regardless of what the switch's natural "on" state is, it leaves people out because it forces two options to choose from for a default state: heterosexual or not.

Setting it in CAS would be good. How, I don't know. Sliders or multiple choice like someone else said would probably work?

"Sigzy05;c-17505371" wrote:
Honestly, I don't want an orientation switch for sims. I think instead turn ons and offs should allow you to do this in an indirect way similar to TS2. You could have male sims that were attracted to beards and have makeup as a turn off for example. That in itself would make it so that the sim leaned more towards male sims because most of the female sims in the game would wear makeup and they could not have beards.

Yeah but who wants to use their space for makeup or beards? What if my female love interest doesnt wear makeup or my male love interest doesn't have a beard? That why a seperate toggle for that needs to exist that doesn't take up space for other turns on (charismatic, redheads, in shape etc)

"Chazzzy;c-17506365" wrote:

"StrawberryYogurt;c-17506106" wrote:

"Chazzzy;c-17505651" wrote:
Married Sims shouldn’t be able to autonomously flirt.
I think that would solve a lot of problems.

Do you mean not at all? Because id love it if my married couple autonomously flirted with eachother. Even auto kiss. It just shouldnt bug out and kiss others

Married people shouldn’t be able to flirt autonomously with anyone who is not their spouse.

In general, I agree, but there should be certain traits (or combinations of traits) that override that - such as being both Non-Committal and Romantic, or having the Serial Romantic aspiration (or the reward trait from it). I mean, how such a sim wound up married in the first place is open for discussion, but should they end up that way, I can see these sorts of sims flirting anyway.

As for the initial post regarding gender preference setting... maybe an accessable Kinsey scale or 10 point scale with a slider? That's then shifted based on gameplay? and then an Asexual or Demisexual trait? Multiple sliders? I dunno. The idea in concept has some merit for making sims who aren't the default bisexual, I'm just not sure how to do it in practice without making it either problematic, too complicated, or both.

"Sindocat;c-17477992" wrote:
I literally have never seen Sims end up in same-sex partnerships that I didn't create, so I don't think a heterosexuality toggle is needed. I do feel that asking for one is a sneaky way of asking for controls to remove gayness from the game. Considering we have seen only three premade same-sex couples, and three premade gender-nonbinary Sims, in twenty years, I suggest that is also not called for.

You control your Sims' orientation by deciding with whom you want them to flirt, if anyone.

Ageed.

One thing I do with there was though is a more subtle kiss. The current ‘Kiss’ interaction is a bit like hands on?Can we not have a like goodbye kiss before a sim goes to work? Or just a peck. Also why can’t they kiss their kids? You know how toddlers get the,sad a parents left moodlet thing. I wish the parents could kiss them goodbye and that moodlet could be prevented?

"Leahmiller2006;c-17478039" wrote:

"Sindocat;c-17477992" wrote:
I literally have never seen Sims end up in same-sex partnerships that I didn't create, so I don't think a heterosexuality toggle is needed. I do feel that asking for one is a sneaky way of asking for controls to remove gayness from the game. Considering we have seen only three premade same-sex couples, and three premade gender-nonbinary Sims, in twenty years, I suggest that is also not called for.

You control your Sims' orientation by deciding with whom you want them to flirt, if anyone.

Ageed.

One thing I do with there was though is a more subtle kiss. The current ‘Kiss’ interaction is a bit like hands on?Can we not have a like goodbye kiss before a sim goes to work? Or just a peck. Also why can’t they kiss their kids? You know how toddlers get the,sad a parents left moodlet thing. I wish the parents could kiss them goodbye and that moodlet could be prevented?

Sim parents can kiss their kids on the cheek if you have parenthood I think it is.
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As for sexual orientation I've seen it once that my straight Sim suddenly started flirting with a same gender Sim and next thing I knew they were kissing and had woohoo lined up which was very annoying, no mods, and he was happily married to his wife and the same gender Sim was a stranger to him (in fact it was his retail customer and he was supposed to be ringing him up.... it must have been a glitch it was about a year ago and I've never had the issue since thankfully. RIght now I believe that Sim sexual preferences are an option to the player, if you make them flirt with both genders they will, if you make them flirt with one or the other they'll will choose that gender on their own too.

"Sindocat;c-17477992" wrote:
I literally have never seen Sims end up in same-sex partnerships that I didn't create, so I don't think a heterosexuality toggle is needed. I do feel that asking for one is a sneaky way of asking for controls to remove gayness from the game. Considering we have seen only three premade same-sex couples, and three premade gender-nonbinary Sims, in twenty years, I suggest that is also not called for.

You control your Sims' orientation by deciding with whom you want them to flirt, if anyone.

omg my wishlist for the sims 4, it makes no sense if i want to have a gay sim and romantic interactions pop up when he talks to females but when he talks to males, the interactions seem to stay friendly/funny. I wish you could choose a sexuality, and it would be nice to have because there are mods like mcc or wicked whims (TURNING OFF THE FUNNY BUSINESS OBVIOUSLY) that let you have sexualities but... they dont really work like i would like them to. so please sims team, do consider.