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HEVEN & HELL expansion pack

The Sims 4: Heaven & Hell Expansion Pack

Hear me out:

I don’t know how to make suggestions, but if someone can get the attention of the Sims makers, it would be amazing.

Concept Overview:

The "Heaven & Hell" expansion pack introduces a new supernatural dimension for The Sims, where each Sim's afterlife is determined by their deeds in life. This journey begins after your Sim passes away, with a dramatic trial that determines if they ascend to Heaven or are condemned to Hell. Players can explore a new world filled with rewards, challenges, or eternal consequences.

The Trial of the Grave:

After a Sim dies, they must face the "Trial of the Grave," an interactive event that evaluates their actions and personality. The trial is presided over by celestial and infernal beings who weigh the choices the Sim made in life. Did they treat others kindly? Did they steal or cheat? Every action has consequences, and the trial can lead to three outcomes: eternal paradise in Heaven, punishment in Hell, or being stuck as a ghost.

Players can influence the trial by selecting arguments in favor of or against the Sim. You could hide bad deeds or emphasize the good ones, adding a strategic layer to the judgment phase. The result isn't just based on a moral meter—it's complex and sometimes relies on luck.

If ghosts fail to complete their tasks in time, they risk either being bound to the mortal world indefinitely, unable to interact with Heaven or Hell, or perishing entirely. These restless ghosts must rely on new opportunities or help from living Sims to get back on track and earn enough points to move on.

Heaven:

For Sims who led a virtuous life or passed their trial, Heaven awaits. Heaven is a peaceful world above the clouds, filled with lush gardens, golden palaces, and endless joy. Sims in Heaven can enjoy:

  • Heavenly Rewards: Luxuries they were deprived of in life, like fulfilling relationships, rare luxuries, or even a dream home.
  • Angelic Powers: Bless other Sims, grant positive moodlets, improve skills, or extend afterlife happiness.
  • Gardens of Eternal Bliss: Explore gardens, harvest divine fruits, attend feasts, or play harp concerts.
  • Heavenly Missions: Guide descendants, help others make good choices, or spread joy in Heaven.
  • Heavenly Pets: Celestial pets like ethereal birds or angelic kittens.
  • Heavenly Festival: Participate in "Cloud Bounce" parties, celestial banquets, or divine karaoke.

Hell:

For Sims who lived wickedly or failed their trial, Hell is their destination. Hell is an eerie underworld filled with fiery landscapes and mischievous spirits. Players who enjoy chaos can indulge in:

  • Punishments & Torture: As Satan, decide punishments based on Sims' sins.
  • Infernal Interactions: Form alliances, appease Satan, or attempt escape.
  • Demonic Powers: Curse others, create chaos, or haunt the living.
  • Escape Challenge: Undertake a nearly impossible challenge to escape.
  • Hellish Pets: Mischievous pets like imps or fire-breathing dogs.
  • Rebellion Week: Join with others to humorously rebel against Satan.

Secret Words:

Throughout the expansion, Sims may find "Secret Words" that unlock abilities or new areas. These words can temporarily allow a ghost to visit Heaven, grant immunity to a punishment, or unlock hidden areas.

Heaven & Hell Cross-Interactions:

Heavenly and Hellish Sims can interact across realms. Heavenly Sims can save lost souls in Hell, while Hellish Sims can sabotage Heaven. These interactions lead to dramatic stories of redemption or rivalry.

New Traits, Aspirations, and Careers:

  • Traits: Sims can have traits like "Virtuous," "Sinner," "Redeemer," or "Tempted."
  • Aspirations: New aspirations like "Achieve Eternal Bliss" or "Rule the Underworld."
  • Careers: "Celestial Guide" to help others in the afterlife or "Demonic Tempter" to sow chaos.

Afterlife Customization:

Customize Heaven or Hell to suit a Sim's personality—design gardens or chaotic underworlds.

Living World Impact:

Heavenly or Hellish Sims can influence the living by giving blessings or curses.

Afterlife Parties:

Sims can throw themed parties—Heavenly Sims can host celestial banquets, while Hellish Sims have infernal raves.

In-Between World:

If a ghost completes their tasks but has a balance of good and bad points, they enter an "In-Between World." This realm combines Heaven and Hell.

In-Between World Details:

  • Environment: Contrasting landscapes reflecting the Sim's good or evil leanings.
  • Powers and Abilities: Limited access to both heavenly and demonic powers.
  • Dual Quests: Unique quests that can tip the balance towards Heaven or Hell.
  • Alliances and Rivalries: Form alliances with angelic or demonic beings.
  • Judgment Opportunities: Periodic judgments to determine the Sim's fate.
  • Social Interactions: Inspire or frighten the living.
  • Living World Impact: Influence the living with blessings or curses.

The In-Between World adds complexity to the afterlife, giving Sims a chance to explore their duality and decide their eternal fate.

Summary:

The Sims 4: Heaven & Hell is about exploring morality, consequences, and the joys or torments of the afterlife. Players decide which Sims deserve eternal happiness, who faces eternal damnation, and how legacies live on.

6 Replies

  • I'm all for playing an Angel & Demon with wings.  I actually made a Fallen Angel Couple.  The Angel from above who wasn't Righteous enough & the Demon from below who wasn't Evil enough.  They fell in love & had triplets.                                   (FYI:  The Angel is actually a Spellcaster & her Demon man is a Vampire)                                                                                                That being said, I'm glad that the Sims Team didn't go there with actually making the Pack.  It would be too sacrilegious.     I'm all for the underworld play that's coming to the game.  However, I would still like it if we got Fairies that can have Angel like wings & Demon like wings.                                                                                                                                 

  • I like this idea but at the same time I would want the option for customisation.  I'm a fan of Paradise Lost so I'd like the option to toy around with the ideas of good vs evil rather than only sticking to the default.

  • sailorleontine's avatar
    sailorleontine
    Seasoned Ace
    3 months ago

    i completely agree, we need an unique pack but i want it to become optional so we can have a choice when something pops-up rather than only sticking to the default

  • i love the idea of it, we now have the "Life And Death" pack and honestly they could've added your ideas into that pack but maybe who knows in the future, i just hope it doesn't conflict with the already existing "Life And Death" pack

    with the life and death pack your sim can be reborn so maybe it can be usefull if your sim's choice is between good and bad but i want it to become optional though, i don't want to stick to the default if you ask me

    but i love the concept with what you've written here

    mine isn't exactly alike because my ideas only focussed on dreaming and making peace with your deceased sims and yourself but here's my ideas about the ghost sims a dreaming pack idea | EA Forums - 12078113

    maybe i'll add "the hell" in that pack ideas of mine but for now i stick with the good side of the pack idea

    your pack idea can complement "Life And Death" pack very well but at the same time when it involves death, it might conflict with the "Life And Death" pack so i think the team needs to think up a plan so it doesn't conflict with the 2 packs

  • sailorleontine's avatar
    sailorleontine
    Seasoned Ace
    2 months ago

    i think you should add 2 more personality traits "at peace/the peacemaker" and "the dreamer"

    we can have a bed option called "lucid dreaming" so your sim can visit heaven or the hell and either makes peace with them or confront them and end things in bad terms but atleast you finished where it all have started, i think it should be a in a kind of a secret world while your sim sleeps so your energie bar gets green while the social bar also gets green so it's a win-win

    but before doing that, the question pops up if you want to visit a secret world or not and if you do, you have 2 options if you want to visit heaven or hell so you can talk to your deceased sim

    just like i once said: i made my own version but it's more heaven related

    lot trait: comfortable (the exact opposite of mean vibe and i think they should disable that lot trait as long as the comfortable lot trait is still on)

    with my ideas and your ideas combined it will be possible to have this pack as an expansion pack, i sure hope the team sees this and also sees my ideas, NOT just yours

    maybe it can have the skill to study ghost skill (similair to the "Life And Death " pack but differently and a bit similair to vampire skill even without being a vampire) the more skills you get, the more option you're gonna get and maybe if the skill is completed or near completed you can click to your own sim (who got that skill) to visit the secret world without doing much effort (similair to spellcasters but differently)

    with the latter i just came up with it

  • We need 3 neighbourhoods:

    -Normal enviroment

    -Good enviroment

    -Bad enviroment

    Good enviroment, colourfull things, it has a portal that leads you to heaven, you have good activities like giving your money away to poor people (only if you're rich) doing good things you'll earn money to name something

    Bad enviroment, dark things, it has a portal that leads you to hell, you have dark activities (similair to Seasons but differently) like scaring others away with a prank and stealing money from others

    As for normal enviroment it has normal things, it has apartments/penthouses, some sort of a competition

    2 occults: angel and devil (i do think it should be optional you can enable/disable it because i still want to play as a ghost and your actions should also be optional like maybe you want to become a devil to try bad things and angel to try good things)

    Heaven world: a colourfull enviroment, good vibes giving others advices to follow their dreams/hearts and trying to do the right thing when the others are sleeping

    Hell world: a black enviroment with bad vibes, giving others nightmares and convince non-devil sim to do bad things when the others are sleeping

    Depending on their personalities you either get a good or bad moodlets like maybe you'll feel inspired or happy or you'll get a sad, uncomfortable or angry moodlet

    Angel and Devil occult have their own skill levels

    Just a thought!

    With the "Life and Death" pack you can be reborn again and goals exist with that pack too but with your pack ideas we can have a in-between world indeed

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