Patch affects groups

"LeGardePourpre;15377143" wrote:
@BabySquare

SimGuruNick, I think it's the Engagement Team... who made this patch.

Oh! I see, thanks!
I always wondered which of the gurus investigated when patches did things like this.

"LeGardePourpre;15377143" wrote:
@BabySquare

SimGuruNick, I think it's the Engagement Team... who made this patch.

Pretty sure patches aren't ever only made by one team. Anything that involves breakage would be investigated by QA (Quality Assurance), which is the department in charge of fixing broken stuff. (My husband is a QA guy.)

Another patch that breaks the game. Great won't be able to play until its fixed (next month if even) and a new DLC is right around the corner. First the major lag break before and during City Living release now this before and most likely after Vintage Glamour whats going on?

"luthienrising;15377172" wrote:

"LeGardePourpre;15377143" wrote:
@BabySquare

SimGuruNick, I think it's the Engagement Team... who made this patch.

Pretty sure patches aren't ever only made by one team. Anything that involves breakage would be investigated by QA (Quality Assurance), which is the department in charge of fixing broken stuff. (My husband is a QA guy.)

However I wonder how terrible and obvious bugs like this one (or the immortal nanny) can be overlooked. I'm not even a passionate user of the club system and noticed the mess after one minute.

I have the impression that the devs only check their fixes in the base game and have no time to test the interference with other packs. This makes many Sims packs unplayable after a short time - think for example of TS3 Ambitions where they never managed to fix the firefighter career.

"legolizeit;15377122" wrote:

"CarpeNoctemSims;15377095" wrote:

Thank you for the concern. The save that got messed up is a copy. I never put my only version of the save into the game for cases like this. Once it's fixed, I can just delete the TS4 folder and start over with a copy of the untouched save.

I've been playing Sims games for a decade and I still haven't learned my lesson. At least someone has!

Make sure to keep auto update off. Than you can go offline in Origin and continue to play that way.

"alanmichael1;15377189" wrote:

"luthienrising;15377172" wrote:

"LeGardePourpre;15377143" wrote:
@BabySquare

SimGuruNick, I think it's the Engagement Team... who made this patch.

Pretty sure patches aren't ever only made by one team. Anything that involves breakage would be investigated by QA (Quality Assurance), which is the department in charge of fixing broken stuff. (My husband is a QA guy.)

However I wonder how terrible and obvious bugs like this one (or the immortal nanny) can be overlooked. I'm not even a passionate user of the club system and noticed the mess after one minute.

I have the impression that the devs only check their fixes in the base game and have no time to test the interference with other packs. This makes many Sims packs unplayable after a short time - think for example of TS3 Ambitions where they never managed to fix the firefighter career.

I don't use the club system: it's what it's done to MC command center that's got me wound up, that I emphasis with those who've made clubs.

"Mendota;15377191" wrote:

"legolizeit;15377122" wrote:

"CarpeNoctemSims;15377095" wrote:

Thank you for the concern. The save that got messed up is a copy. I never put my only version of the save into the game for cases like this. Once it's fixed, I can just delete the TS4 folder and start over with a copy of the untouched save.

I've been playing Sims games for a decade and I still haven't learned my lesson. At least someone has!

Make sure to keep auto update off. Than you can go offline in Origin and continue to play that way.

Just turned off automatic game update. Is that what you're referring to?

"CarpeNoctemSims;15376941" wrote:
It's true.....

My clubs are broken. This is in a brand new TS4 folder and after a game repair (I always do this with every new patch). The save is CC/Mod free. It's a base save I created prior and all my clubs are messed up.

https://68.media.tumblr.com/2e9e180f1188ca6f37ded4a46dccda4b/tumblr_inline_ohix2ncQwz1upjkmc_540.png

@CarpeNoctemSims Is it ok when I use this pic for a blog post in my blog ?

"alanmichael1;15377189" wrote:

"luthienrising;15377172" wrote:

"LeGardePourpre;15377143" wrote:
@BabySquare

SimGuruNick, I think it's the Engagement Team... who made this patch.

Pretty sure patches aren't ever only made by one team. Anything that involves breakage would be investigated by QA (Quality Assurance), which is the department in charge of fixing broken stuff. (My husband is a QA guy.)

However I wonder how terrible and obvious bugs like this one (or the immortal nanny) can be overlooked. I'm not even a passionate user of the club system and noticed the mess after one minute.

I have the impression that the devs only check their fixes in the base game and have no time to test the interference with other packs. This makes many Sims packs unplayable after a short time - think for example of TS3 Ambitions where they never managed to fix the firefighter career.

The game is supercomplex (my husband once said he'd want at least a 100% raise to manage QA on this product, from what he'd seen of it). I suspect that the system of what to check is extensive and complicated, but that doesn't mean it's guaranteed 100% complete. QA is a human-run process: there's no wand you can wave to ensure that you don't miss something in testing. We don't see stuff this game-breaking and universal very often, considering how often we get updates and how complex the game is - I've been generally impressed, tbh. I would imagine from the nature of the issue that this one will be easy to isolate; hopefully it'll be a quick development fix as well, or at least a quick bandaid to hide the issue on users' end.

"BabySquare;15377206" wrote:

"Mendota;15377191" wrote:

"legolizeit;15377122" wrote:

"CarpeNoctemSims;15377095" wrote:

Thank you for the concern. The save that got messed up is a copy. I never put my only version of the save into the game for cases like this. Once it's fixed, I can just delete the TS4 folder and start over with a copy of the untouched save.

I've been playing Sims games for a decade and I still haven't learned my lesson. At least someone has!

Make sure to keep auto update off. Than you can go offline in Origin and continue to play that way.

Just turned off automatic game update. Is that what you're referring to?

That's half of it. If you also play connected to the internet, Origin will still know there's meant to be an update and will insist you update before you can play. Turning off auto-update seems intended only to make it so you can postpone updating if, say, you need to do that overnight not during peak hours.