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wahini2024's avatar
5 years ago
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Random Mean Interactions

I've never had this issue until now,  which is post may update and the dream decorator install

My sims are mega jerks suddenly

I repaired

I disabled NAPs

I dropped mischief to one for the worst offenders

I don't use mods though I have some cc nothing is a script mod (clothing etc) 

I'm playing in San Myshuno exclusively in this load and my sims are mean.  Mega jerks. Prior to the update they weren't just randomly jeering, insulting,  fighting, and pranking every toilet they encounter

I'm constantly having to fix negative relationships that occur when I'm not playing in that sims rotation.  

I'll come back to a family only to have several enemies,  random hot cold romance relationships I didn't initiate and general "in the red" relationships.  

Married or just couples in general will begin to yell at each other mid flirt and some will brawl. I can't figure out why they're suddenly just downright mean especially when I'm keeping mischief low and am careful not to have any mean,  snob, evil or hot headed sims 

Game is also SUPER buggy and I'll have to reset objects quite often.  Not sure if it's the new update,  the decorator pack or just something to do with city living? 

  • CGrant56's avatar
    CGrant56
    5 years ago

    @wahini2024   Thought of something else.

    Since you said that it seems to stop when you go on vacation, that leads me to believe that it is something in the home zone causing the issue and that leads me right back to NAPs.  The behaviors you've described match a couple of what I see with a couple of certain NAPs enabled.  You don't have to reenable NPC voting either.  Just leave that unchecked in the game options.  But turn testing cheats on and then shift click on a mailbox and instant enable Fun Loving Community and Roughhousing Encouraged.  Let the game run for a few seconds and check to make sure they are enabled.  Then Shift Click again and Instant repeal them.  Let the game run a few seconds and then check to make sure they got repealed.  Then play for a while and see if there is any change.  What I am thinking is that they didn't repeal fully and left a residual of some sort behind when you did it before.

    It that doesn't work, you might try enabling some of the other other NAPs like Free Love, Green Gardening, etc.  to see if those will kick in and replace the previous behaviors with those from those NAPs.  Self Sufficiency is a good one to have anyway so that would be a good candidate to enact as well.

    Hope this helps.

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  • wahini2024's avatar
    wahini2024
    5 years ago

    @CGrant56 

    Alright,  while they still are generally a bit angsty and a tad rude doing the naps enable and repeal has stopped much of the behavior.  For anyone who might encounter this the things that haven't stopped seem to be residual to the earlier sims who were more impacted by the naps prior to disabling them.  Those who entered after disabling the naps are acting as normal

    The earlier sims are still a little rowdy but it's liveable and not constant.  Pranking has been reduced to residual or hidden goofball traits as opposed to all sims.  It isn't effecting other worlds but mine was confined to just one world, Myshuno, to begin with.  

    It's now liveable drama and dumping the cache was very helpful as well I'm sure some of the mess could have been there as well.  

    Dumped cache

    Repaired game

    Repealed all naps

    Disabled naps

    Manually enacted the prior naps briefly 

    Repealed to clean out the residue

    No naps enabled anywhere 

    This process got rid of about 80% of the issue with the rest being hidden in earlier sims it would seem (but it's completely liveable and kinda adds a city vibe at this point) 

    Thanks! 😊

  • CGrant56's avatar
    CGrant56
    Hero+
    5 years ago

    @wahini2024 

    Great!  Sounds like you've got it under control and that is very good.

    And to answer your question about NAPs in different zones, from what I can tell, the game assigns them randomly more or less although I saw the 2 I mentioned earlier seemed to get assigned more before I got them under control in my main long term save.  I didn't turn off NPC voting until late and it took going into every zone and resetting them.  Generally I use the same ones everywhere now.

    Glad I could help.  Have fun with your game!

  • LonaBoom's avatar
    LonaBoom
    Seasoned Ace
    5 years ago
    @wahini2024 There is a known issue with this game they still haven't fixed and it become draining, I have deleted cache files and also reset to factory setting and still crazy stuff start happening all over again and the stuck bug of romance I can never remove. Why is it so hard to find a way to remove flirts off a sim. At one point it become draining trying to fix broken families.
  • PugLove888's avatar
    PugLove888
    Hero (Retired)
    5 years ago

    @wahini2024 , I'm so glad @CGrant56  could help you get your game under control! 🙌🥳  That must be a big relief! 😅

    I know they aren't perfect, as you said they seem to be a bit rowdy.😜  I can't help but think that that might have something to do with how Sims have a tendency to continue doing actions and interactions of what they have done previously.  This would happen long before the Eco Lifestyle pack even existed!  I've noticed that my Sims might ignore the chess board for the longest time, but if I direct them to play a few times, they would be much more likely to choose playing chess over something else. Same with painting, and other activities, and interactions like flirting and mischief.  I thought maybe it was just happening in my game , but then I saw a video of of several Sims set up in identical rooms side by side.  The Sims all had different personality traits , The person playing would let them do what ever they wanted for a bit and then start directing them to do all the same thing.  After a while all the Sims would often choose that activity over the others available, despite their personality.  While this is good for players who are storytellers or who love to be control freaks with their Sims, it isn't so good for those who want to let their Sims play out on their own more often. However, this might have changed somewhat with the additions of Lifestyles. I'm not sure since I haven't tested it since then.  But I would think if anything, that Lifestyles might make this behavior even more prevalent. 🤔 In the meantime, I would just keep directing them to do activities and interactions that you actually want to encourage (like you have been doing lately) , at least for a while.  Then maybe you can ease up a bit! 🤞😉


  • @CGrant56 

    Thank you!  I'll check it out.  My problem is mainly solved in this load finally but will be interesting to see what they're experiencing as well 

  • wahini2024's avatar
    wahini2024
    5 years ago
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    @PugLove888 

    Oh I removed lifestyles a long time ago due to the tension they would get and it's not an aspect of the game that I enjoy but I do notice repetitive activities tend to stick

    I wasn't engaging them in any mischief at all but I think the NAPS were causing it as well as the humor and hijinks festival since they all live in the city and all attend the festivals regardless of which family I'm playing as. I take them as a group to join the jokester team now and the mischief has dropped even further.  

    The romance festival is still an issue and many of my couples have a minor romantic relationships afterwards much to my surprise. It is what it is at this point but it's playable finally 🙌 and the slight drama is actually endearing now 

  • @LonaBoom 

    I was getting to the point I was going to delete the load because it was so bad but thankfully mine is playable now but trust me I get it when you're constantly in a kind of "repair" mode 

  • PugLove888's avatar
    PugLove888
    Hero (Retired)
    5 years ago

    @wahini2024 , yes while i love the Humor and Hijinks festival (a great way to earn cash early on in a new household without using cheats!  just be on the winning side and sell off all the fireworks and the microphone or voodoo doll for some nice cash!)  I do tend to have my Sims only join the Jokesters side unless I specifically want them to be mischievous..  😉 

    And the fact that making them Jokesters now has made the mischievous actions lessen, is similar to what I was saying in my earlier post about them preferring more recent actions! 😉

    I have had problems with the Romance festival when I've brought a married couple to it and had them drink the Sakura Tea... they started flirting with other Sims besides their spouse! 🤦‍♀️😓 And here I thought it would be a fun, romantic activity to strengthen their relationship! 😥