Best Friends Spam Overload?

Am I wrong for assuming this BFF frenzy was patched in before HSY was released? But the ability to toggle that off wasn't included in the pre-EP base game update? I froze my game when Cottage Living was released and did not update it again until three weeks before Growing Together was due to drop. Then the laptop I had been using for Sims4 suffered a major meltdown and I lost everything, which forced me to start over from scratch. So, I think I may have missed reading many of the initial discussions about HSY and that pack's problems because I believed if I didn't own HSY my game would not be affected. Just one more reason why I think we should have a choice in which updates and patches we want to install. But that's a conversation for another day. And I am not going to buy HSY just to have a way to turn off what I don't want my Sims to do.

I didn't have very much time to play while rebuilding my mods folder after losing my laptop which is probably why I didn't notice the changes the HSY update had made. Then along came Growing Together with its own new compatibility features, and I thought those features were at the root of the problem. But it appears as though those new features only seemed to escalate whatever issues HSY had already caused. It's difficult to know which new mods to use when some problems are the result of a base game update and which ones are pack related. Especially when one doesn't purchase the new pack but was forced to update anyway. I should have done more research on HSY before I updated after so many months, but I was in a hurry to get my game up and running after losing my primary laptop. If I had taken more time with the process, I would have been more aware of which mods I needed to stop some of what is annoying me now.

@Paigeisin5 I have to wonder if this isn't a mod update in your case. I play vanilla and nobody wants to be sims' best friend.

"Paigeisin5;c-18251773" wrote:
Am I wrong for assuming this BFF frenzy was patched in before HSY was released? But the ability to toggle that off wasn't included in the pre-EP base game update? I froze my game when Cottage Living was released and did not update it again until three weeks before Growing Together was due to drop. Then the laptop I had been using for Sims4 suffered a major meltdown and I lost everything, which forced me to start over from scratch. So, I think I may have missed reading many of the initial discussions about HSY and that pack's problems because I believed if I didn't own HSY my game would not be affected. Just one more reason why I think we should have a choice in which updates and patches we want to install. But that's a conversation for another day. And I am not going to buy HSY just to have a way to turn off what I don't want my Sims to do.

I didn't have very much time to play while rebuilding my mods folder after losing my laptop which is probably why I didn't notice the changes the HSY update had made. Then along came Growing Together with its own new compatibility features, and I thought those features were at the root of the problem. But it appears as though those new features only seemed to escalate whatever issues HSY had already caused. It's difficult to know which new mods to use when some problems are the result of a base game update and which ones are pack related. Especially when one doesn't purchase the new pack but was forced to update anyway. I should have done more research on HSY before I updated after so many months, but I was in a hurry to get my game up and running after losing my primary laptop. If I had taken more time with the process, I would have been more aware of which mods I needed to stop some of what is annoying me now.

I don’t use mods, but I have to say I have had no major problems with High School Years. Things seem to be running pretty normally. Prom went well. School goes well. I haven’t played since Growing together came out and I downloaded it. I have been reading about family dynamics, compatability etc. so I can set up likes and dislikes among friends and family first, and I have a big rotational main save and a smaller rotational scenario one. I have also had visitors, so have been out of my game awhile. I’m thinking of turning off autonomous NPC relationships now though if that’s a bug ( I hadn’t noticed that you could turn it off ).

"Paigeisin5;c-18251773" wrote:
Am I wrong for assuming this BFF frenzy was patched in before HSY was released? But the ability to toggle that off wasn't included in the pre-EP base game update? I froze my game when Cottage Living was released and did not update it again until three weeks before Growing Together was due to drop. Then the laptop I had been using for Sims4 suffered a major meltdown and I lost everything, which forced me to start over from scratch. So, I think I may have missed reading many of the initial discussions about HSY and that pack's problems because I believed if I didn't own HSY my game would not be affected. Just one more reason why I think we should have a choice in which updates and patches we want to install. But that's a conversation for another day. And I am not going to buy HSY just to have a way to turn off what I don't want my Sims to do.

I didn't have very much time to play while rebuilding my mods folder after losing my laptop which is probably why I didn't notice the changes the HSY update had made. Then along came Growing Together with its own new compatibility features, and I thought those features were at the root of the problem. But it appears as though those new features only seemed to escalate whatever issues HSY had already caused. It's difficult to know which new mods to use when some problems are the result of a base game update and which ones are pack related. Especially when one doesn't purchase the new pack but was forced to update anyway. I should have done more research on HSY before I updated after so many months, but I was in a hurry to get my game up and running after losing my primary laptop. If I had taken more time with the process, I would have been more aware of which mods I needed to stop some of what is annoying me now.

I don't have the best friend issue, though with Growing Together or the infant update you can have more than one. But I also use mods, including Bienchen's mentioned above. Mods go by version number (game) 90% of the time - the other 10% is when you have to remove things for packs you don't own, which the modder WILL tell you, or it requires a pack you don't own. If you are currently up to date, almost any standard mod that doesn't fall into the 10% will work.

"Admiral8Q;c-18251549" wrote:

These things should require intimate actions rather than be randomly spontaneous. Usually the player should enact it. "Hints" by other NPC Sims though would make more sense instead of an absolute. Saying 'no' causes a bad sentiment hit on both the played Sim and the NPC Sim.

I think hints would be a great idea to make it feel autonomous but also within your control. Like for marriage the npc could ask you to discuss getting married first and you could accept or reject with no consequences. Then only if you said yes, they would pop the question. I wish they had designed it that way!

"Paigeisin5;c-18251773" wrote:
Am I wrong for assuming this BFF frenzy was patched in before HSY was released? But the ability to toggle that off wasn't included in the pre-EP base game update?

I don’t have HSY and no mods (console) and I don’t have autonomous BFF requests or proposals. But since getting Growing Together I do have the move-in requests. So I think everything is from the packs, not the updates.

"LeGardePourpre;c-18252117" wrote:
Now all the uncle/aunt and cousins ask to move in :D ... because they are family members.

From my experience everyone that's a BFF wants to move in with you. And then even though they are BFF the game still somehow got them to become best friends afterwards. I thought BFF was a step higher than that. Kyle was sneaky, called my sim up on Love Day and asked her for a date at the ice cream shop. She said yes, then he asked her to become BFF because they were getting along so well, and sure enough he then asked to move in with her. Some time after he moved in the game said that they have now become best friends.

All mods have been updated to my game's current version. I have played in vanilla mode but the BFF and Move in requests remain the same. I have gone through all my MCCC settings to make sure I didn't enable something by mistake. I have searched for the toggle some of you have mentioned that will turn off the NPCs' autonomous requests, but it is not in the Game or Pack options anywhere. I do not own HSY so once again I am assuming that particular option was included in the pack rather than in the pre-EP base game update. I am going through Bienchen's mods list later today to determine if I missed any new updates. And I am going to grab that mod she mentioned earlier in this thread. Real Life is about to control my life once again for a few months and my free time will take a serious hit as we finish packing up and moving into a rental while our new home is being built. We were taken by surprise when our current home sold within days of being listed. We are now scrambling to get what has been packed, along with most of our furniture into two storage units and figuring out what we'll need to take with us to the rental. Getting my game straightened out is very important to me at the moment. I need something to help me get through this without having a total meltdown. :D

"LeGardePourpre;c-18252117" wrote:
Now all the uncle/aunt and cousins ask to move in :D ... because they are family members.

"Hey! Heard you got a house lot! Mind if we all move in with ya?" :D :D :D
https://i.imgur.com/42xFSUX.jpg

@crocobaura BFF is the same as best friends

@Paigeisin5 hmm... the toggle is under the pack options for HSY, which you don't own.
Does anyone know how to turn off the basegame NPC relationship autonomy?

Thank you @mightysprite You cleared that up for me just when I was beginning to think I was going a bit crazy because I couldn't find the toggle. I'll do another in depth search through MCCC and see if there might be a way to turn this off that I might have missed. I found Bienchen's mod and added it to my game but today was busy and I won't be playing until later tonight.