Bullying in the Sims 4.

this is complete and utter rubbish... bulling should be against the law... for no kid or no one should be bullied in real life, or in a game, or on a forum it is so cowardly to sit behind a computer screen and bully real life people, or sims what a horrible idea :thumbdown:

jcp011c2 wrote:
No thank you. Thankfully in growing up I was usually in that "middle group" of kids that neither were the popular kids (which sadly oftentimes can include the bullies) nor the bullied group, but I saw enough of it to make me sick to my stomach. Every time I read or hear about some kid being beaten or worse in the news it makes me question where our kids are going these days (I know not all kids, in fact a very low percentage, are bullies, but I do question it anyways).

I'm all for finding ways to decrease bullying in real life, and I fear that putting it in Sims would actually be detrimental to that end.

I was in the middle crowd too, but I liked the bullied more than the bullies and stood up for people a lot.

What I think is worst is the 'yeah! 'yeah!' snivelling grovelers who goad the bullies. The bullies tend to be insecure and I look down on them (exploit their weakness... it's fun!) but if it wasn't for the crowd of 'watchers' then the bullies wouldn't have an audience to play-up to. It's the people who stand around and do nothing that makes me sick. :?

Cinderellimouse wrote:

jcp011c2 wrote:
No thank you. Thankfully in growing up I was usually in that "middle group" of kids that neither were the popular kids (which sadly oftentimes can include the bullies) nor the bullied group, but I saw enough of it to make me sick to my stomach. Every time I read or hear about some kid being beaten or worse in the news it makes me question where our kids are going these days (I know not all kids, in fact a very low percentage, are bullies, but I do question it anyways).

I'm all for finding ways to decrease bullying in real life, and I fear that putting it in Sims would actually be detrimental to that end.

I was in the middle crowd too, but I liked the bullied more than the bullies and stood up for people a lot.

What I think is worst is the 'yeah! 'yeah!' snivelling grovelers who goad the bullies. The bullies tend to be insecure and I look down on them (exploit their weakness... it's fun!) but if it wasn't for the crowd of 'watchers' then the bullies wouldn't have an audience to play-up to. It's the people who stand around and do nothing that makes me sick. :?

This is so true. And most or some of people who stand around and just watch are too afraid to stick up for the person who is being bullying for fear that the bullies will start to bully them.

I really hate the 2 faced people who would sit there and be the bully when their friends are around but when it is just you and the person who is the bully, they are all nice to your face. I once had a girl that I knew from elementary school through high school and she was like that. She would pick on me when her friends was around so she could look cool and fit in with their crowd but when her and I would meet up in an empty hallway or in a public place outside of school and away from her friends, she would be nice to me and ask me how I am doing or offer me candy. I even had people who would pick on me and then when they get the chance would go and tell my best friend on how pretty my eyes are or that they really like me for me and not my looks but they would never come and tell me this themselves.

*hugs lisasc360*

This is a bit of a generalisation so I apologise in advance to all the nice teenagers, but I think the teenage school years are a crazy place full of peer pressure, and fear, and crazy hormones. I think people are struggling to fit in and find a place and learn the right way to 'act'. It's not a nice time of life or place to be really. So, the bully you talked about probably just felt pressure to act a certain way around her 'friends', not that I'm excusing it, but I think the pressure makes people do things that are out of character and I think a lot of bullies regret their actions later in life.

I've moved back to the area where I grew up and a lot of the bullies from school are actually really nice now! :lol: I think bullying is something most people grow out of (unless there is something actually wrong with them).

I do think that pressure to bully comes from an insecurity, a pressure to behave a certain way or act a certain way. I would say the more secure you are in yourself, the less likely you are to bully or be upset by bullies. People need more confidence. Less perfection in the media would be a great start methinks.

Cinderellimouse wrote:
*hugs lisasc360*

This is a bit of a generalisation so I apologise in advance to all the nice teenagers, but I think the teenage school years are a crazy place full of peer pressure, and fear, and crazy hormones. I think people are struggling to fit in and find a place and learn the right way to 'act'. It's not a nice time of life or place to be really. So, the bully you talked about probably just felt pressure to act a certain way around her 'friends', not that I'm excusing it, but I think the pressure makes people do things that are out of character and I think a lot of bullies regret their actions later in life.

I've moved back to the area where I grew up and a lot of the bullies from school are actually really nice now! :lol: I think bullying is something most people grow out of (unless there is something actually wrong with them).

I do think that pressure to bully comes from an insecurity, a pressure to behave a certain way or act a certain way. I would say the more secure you are in yourself, the less likely you are to bully or be upset by bullies. People need more confidence. Less perfection in the media would be a great start methinks.

Thanks Cinder... :D

You are so right about the peer pressure and all. I just went to my 25th high school reunion back in 2011 and everyone of the people who had teased and picked on me were all coming up and hugging me and treating me with the respect. And I even have them now as friends on my FB page.

I don't support this

I was bullied in the later grades of Elementary School (Gr.7 &8) and it got sooo bad, I had to go to school earlier then normal kids, and sit in the front hall (since there weren't any teachers or adults monitering the grounds) till it was time for class and then I had to huddle around EAs (Education Assistants) during the two recces.

In my local paper there was an artcile last week about a girl who was bullied so baddly her mom had to become the girl's bodyguard.

I'm ashamed to say this, but, I was a Bully.

I bullied to this guy in my class when we were about 7 or 8. I was really mean, and when I look back on it it makes me want to do over. I was in with the 'It' crowd of my school and I only bullied this guy because my other friends were doing it.

Now, I'm almost done Secondary School and the guy I bullied is my best friend. We do everything together which is quite crazy since it felt like yesterday I was calling him names. He brings it up from time to time and all we do is joke about how stupid I was, and I don't mind that. I was foolish and stupid.

Other then that I've never been bullied. I've been called a name or two on several occasions, but, that happens to us all.

Anyways, back to the actual topic. I'm unsure on this. Bullying is already in every other Sims game to some extent, you can just make one Sim be mean to another Sim all the time. But, I'm not sure if Proper Bullying is right for TS4, I mean Bullying can lead to suicidal thoughts and well-- even suicide, just take that poor girl Phoebe Prince and all the others who have taken their lives because of constant slagging and bullying.

So, I'm unsure. :/

( Double Post. )

Jess1281 wrote:
Exactly, while some people might find it therapeutic, others might not. It is a tricky thing and a hot topic, and EA is bound to stay as far away from it as humanly possible. I'm surprised this thread wasn't deleted as it is a taboo topic. While bullying is a problem, that a lot of people have had to deal with one way or another, it really doesn't have a place in the Sims. I also realized I forgot to say I'm not up for this as an idea and I hope the OP gets the help he needs to come to grips with this.

I taught my son it wasn't his fault he was bullied, he was just the target of a predator, and maybe this other boy's home life caused him to act this way at school, maybe he just needed a friend, maybe he just needed a beat down too...You try to understand what causes someone to torment someone else...But sadly there isn't always a reason beyond pure mean-spiritedness. You just have to grow thicker skin and move on.

You are so right about whether the bully has issues at home. I know parents try to bring their children up right and teach them what is right and wrong and what not to do but sometimes the child just ignore the parents teachings and do what they want to do and they don't care who gets hurt along the way.

lisasc360 wrote:

Cinderellimouse wrote:
*hugs lisasc360*

This is a bit of a generalisation so I apologise in advance to all the nice teenagers, but I think the teenage school years are a crazy place full of peer pressure, and fear, and crazy hormones. I think people are struggling to fit in and find a place and learn the right way to 'act'. It's not a nice time of life or place to be really. So, the bully you talked about probably just felt pressure to act a certain way around her 'friends', not that I'm excusing it, but I think the pressure makes people do things that are out of character and I think a lot of bullies regret their actions later in life.

I've moved back to the area where I grew up and a lot of the bullies from school are actually really nice now! :lol: I think bullying is something most people grow out of (unless there is something actually wrong with them).

I do think that pressure to bully comes from an insecurity, a pressure to behave a certain way or act a certain way. I would say the more secure you are in yourself, the less likely you are to bully or be upset by bullies. People need more confidence. Less perfection in the media would be a great start methinks.

Thanks Cinder... :D

You are so right about the peer pressure and all. I just went to my 25th high school reunion back in 2011 and everyone of the people who had teased and picked on me were all coming up and hugging me and treating me with the respect. And I even have them now as friends on my FB page.

:D