Complaining about Sims 4.

The Sims is a bit like Lego. Some people make marvellous constructions from a basic box and some get stuck building a hut. It's sandbox. The only way, when I find Sims 4 getting a bit dull, is to find a challenge or try building another family or lot.

There was more longevity for packs in previous games though and I hope EA ups its' "game" when we go totally 64bit.

One way you could challenge yourself is to have your sim quit their job once they get rich, buy lots of expensive items (this raises sim's bills) and then let their bills empty out their account (right now Judith Ward in my game has 27,000 in bills every week). Start a new career and repeat. You could also use testingcheats on - money X (X being # amount) to auto reduce their savings. Give sims negative traits to spice up the game even more.

I think that Sim4 just really needs to put more attention to detail in smaller things, like player menu announcements and more jobs instead of packs

All these people saying TS4 is a sandbox game make me laugh. This is the game that tells you exactly what to do in almost any instance. This is the game that forces sims to be happy, this is the game that forces sims to be friends. This, is not a sandbox game, and most importantly, it's not a challenging game.

You never loose anything, or get any penalties in this game because it hurts the players feelings. Even if you don't pay the bills sims don't complain and get in a crappy mood about the lack of light like in TS3. There's no repo man so your stuff isn't going to get repossessed. And sims can eat quick meals easy without electricity which they don't have to pay for. No matter what your sim never dies. And this isn't the sims 2 or 3 where your nemesis would make your life a hell by throwing garbage on your lawn or constantly try to harass your sim.

It's actually more challenging to keep a bad reputation in TS4 rather than a good one, which makes no sense ahaha. Because sims are constantly trying to be good to the people they are suppose to hate.

"Sigzy05;c-17026725" wrote:
All these people saying TS4 is a sandbox game make me laugh. This is the game that tells you exactly what to do in almost any instance. This is the game that forces sims to be happy, this is the game that forces sims to be friends. This, is not a sandbox game, and most importantly, it's not a challenging game.

You never loose anything, or get any penalties in this game because it hurts the players feelings. Even if you don't pay the bills sims don't complain and get in a plum mood about the lack of light like in TS3. There's no repo man so your stuff isn't going to get repossessed. And sims can eat quick meals easy without electricity which they don't have to pay for. No matter what your sim never dies. And this isn't the sims 2 or 3 where your nemesis would make your life a hell by throwing garbage on your lawn or constantly try to harass your sim.

It's actually more challenging to keep a bad reputation in TS4 rather than a good one, which makes no sense ahaha. Because sims are constantly trying to be good to the people they are suppose to hate.

It's still a sandbox for me. It's the nearest to this definition for me

https://www.techopedia.com/definition/3952/sandbox-gaming

A sandbox is a style of game in which minimal character limitations are placed on the gamer, allowing the gamer to roam and change a virtual world at will. In contrast to a progression-style game, a sandbox game emphasizes roaming and allows a gamer to select tasks. Instead of featuring segmented areas or numbered levels, a sandbox game usually occurs in a “world” to which the gamer has full access from start to finish.
A sandbox game is also known as an open-world or free-roaming game.

Techopedia explains Sandbox
Sandbox games can include structured elements – such as mini-games, tasks, submissions and storylines – that may be ignored by gamers. In fact, the sandbox game's nonlinear nature creates storyline challenges for game designers. For this reason, tasks and side missions usually follow a progression, where tasks are unlocked upon successful task completion.
Sandbox game types vary. Massive multiplayer online role-playing games (MMORPG) generally include a mixture of sandbox and progression gaming and heavily depend on emergent interactive user gameplay for retaining non-progression-focused gamers. Modern "beat 'em ups" and first-person shooters have delved more deeply into the sandbox realm with titles like the "Grand Theft Auto" series, "Red Dead Redemption," "Assassin’s Creed" and others, allowing gamers to run and gun wherever the mood takes them.

In spite of their name, various sandbox games continue to impose restrictions at some stages of the game environment. This can be due the game's design limitations, or can be short-run, in-game limitations, such as some locked areas in games that are unlocked once certain milestones are achieved.

"Simburian;c-17026766" wrote:

"Sigzy05;c-17026725" wrote:
All these people saying TS4 is a sandbox game make me laugh. This is the game that tells you exactly what to do in almost any instance. This is the game that forces sims to be happy, this is the game that forces sims to be friends. This, is not a sandbox game, and most importantly, it's not a challenging game.

You never loose anything, or get any penalties in this game because it hurts the players feelings. Even if you don't pay the bills sims don't complain and get in a plum mood about the lack of light like in TS3. There's no repo man so your stuff isn't going to get repossessed. And sims can eat quick meals easy without electricity which they don't have to pay for. No matter what your sim never dies. And this isn't the sims 2 or 3 where your nemesis would make your life a hell by throwing garbage on your lawn or constantly try to harass your sim.

It's actually more challenging to keep a bad reputation in TS4 rather than a good one, which makes no sense ahaha. Because sims are constantly trying to be good to the people they are suppose to hate.

It's still a sandbox for me. It's the nearest to this definition for me

https://www.techopedia.com/definition/3952/sandbox-gaming

A sandbox is a style of game in which minimal character limitations are placed on the gamer, allowing the gamer to roam and change a virtual world at will. In contrast to a progression-style game, a sandbox game emphasizes roaming and allows a gamer to select tasks. Instead of featuring segmented areas or numbered levels, a sandbox game usually occurs in a “world” to which the gamer has full access from start to finish.
A sandbox game is also known as an open-world or free-roaming game.

Techopedia explains Sandbox
Sandbox games can include structured elements – such as mini-games, tasks, submissions and storylines – that may be ignored by gamers. In fact, the sandbox game's nonlinear nature creates storyline challenges for game designers. For this reason, tasks and side missions usually follow a progression, where tasks are unlocked upon successful task completion.
Sandbox game types vary. Massive multiplayer online role-playing games (MMORPG) generally include a mixture of sandbox and progression gaming and heavily depend on emergent interactive user gameplay for retaining non-progression-focused gamers. Modern "beat 'em ups" and first-person shooters have delved more deeply into the sandbox realm with titles like the "Grand Theft Auto" series, "Red Dead Redemption," "Assassin’s Creed" and others, allowing gamers to run and gun wherever the mood takes them.

In spite of their name, various sandbox games continue to impose restrictions at some stages of the game environment. This can be due the game's design limitations, or can be short-run, in-game limitations, such as some locked areas in games that are unlocked once certain milestones are achieved.

For me this game will be still sandbox at its core. For othets it may not be, but for me it is, and I am having fun with it.

Where I find this game too easy is Sims don't die of things that can actually kill in RL. Take getting struck by lightning, as an example. How many people in reality survive such a strike? If all did, we would never hear about it in the news. Even a second strike won't take the Sim out. There's no real fear or anxiety. Ghosts can no longer scare a Sim to death. If and that's a big IF, your silly Sim gets dazed trying to repair something electric or electronic and doesn't recover from being dazed before they continue the repairs, then and ONLY then can a Sim be electrocuted to death.

I am of the firm belief these deaths should be more random. There should be a percentage of instant death from any of the life-threatening actions taken by a Sim. I began Simming with Sims2. It was a tricky thing keeping a pregnant Sim alive through her pregnancy. Even taking out the trash (although, I never understood that one) could end her life.

There needs to be more of a challenge to this game. Some sense of concern when playing. An honest threat that if we don't take the proper care of our Sims, they can be lost.

As for avoiding wealth, that's up to the player. You can control the horizontal and the vertical. There are cheats to employ to remove some of the cash on hand, for instance. Or, you can choose to put your Sim in the lowest paying job. Or, keep them from getting that raise by slacking off on the job. You can have your Sim get fired by said behavior or quit and constantly start new jobs keeping them at the lowest level.

It's not hard enough in many other ways, not just in the accumulation of wealth. Although in reality I wouldn't mind should God decide to smite me with it, LOL. But, as was mentioned, it's all up to the angle you take in playing the game.

I make my own Sims and I create their own 'story'.

Sims 4 is the easiest game I have ever played. There is nothing challenging about a game that holds your hand at all times and is designed to operate in a nauseatingly happy-go-lucky setting 24/7.

I consider Sims 4 a children’s game because it’s basically about being happy and friendly with everyone at all times without any chance of something negative happening. If you want something dramatic then you have to do that yourself, which IMO defeats the purpose and isn’t what made me like the other games.

"Cinebar;c-17026253" wrote:
It really doesn't require much thought does it. If I had to rate the game on which age group it required to succeed and or have the Sim be happy, I would say age five or so. MySims might require more thought than TS4 and more strategy of how to get Sims out of trouble (since there is none in TS4) and possibly require more ingenunity on the part of the player than TS4 does. There is very little challenge in keeping the Sim alive, or overseeing their happiness or not. I have literally walked away and left it running and nothing happened other than the Sim remained bascially happy for hours and lack of money meant nothing either. Power off was no big deal to the Sim. Why should it be when they can just whip out their phone for ten hours, never needing recharge, and never die from accident (extremely rare) or starve. It's like turning on the TV and then just leave it on and go do something else, it's no challenge at all to keep the Sim happy or healthy.

I question the "extreme rarity" of the accidents. ^_^

I tried to walk away from my Sims recently (less than a minute to get a snack) and while I was gone, one of the Sims who couldn't cook tried to do it anyway and set herself on fire. Grim had already arrived when I sat back down.

In the game save I use for my comic, I brought a ghost back to life only to immediately watch him keel over again because he was enraged at the time.

I'm not sure the odds of dying by pufferfish, but it was insta-kill the first time I tried it.

I can also attest that the game left in the hands of a five-year-old (or thereabouts) can lead to either nothing happening or several Sims freezing to death right after Father Winter right gets knocked out with a tranquilizing handshake. (It's worth noting that five-year-olds generally do not have the reading level required for the game--I had to read things aloud. I guess "tranquilizing handshake" sounded cool.)

It's random.

"Jordan061102;c-17022757" wrote:
With better personalities the game would have been less boring and easy. Still waiting for an overhaul on those "unique sims" EA. ?

Same