Did ts3 ep’s have more than ts4

By features and game play? Yes.
Ambitions came with 5 careers, new music, new skills and new collectibles.
The sims 3 base game has over 62 traits alone.
The sims 4 does not.

Some will argue they couldn’t get to play sims 3 and prefer sims 4, some will say sims 3 doesn’t have as much depth. And of course a lot of sims 3 expansions have things that were split into other pieces of dlc in 4 I,e vampires and bowling.

I think having the poll here is going to be heavily biased towards the sims 4.

I'm still so bothered by the fact that they didn't include proper pet beds and dog houses with Cats and Dogs. Incredibly dumb since it's the "Pets" EP of TS4. The pack doesn't have small animals which is sad, but the thing is....they didn't even include enough stuff for the two main pets of the pack. They had to do a SP later....it really boggles my mind.

But I think that in TS4 Island Living they put a lot of effort in the beach animations and into the world itself, not to mention the fishing overhaul. Everytime I go into Sulani I have to stop for a few seconds to apreciate how beautiful it is, literally everytime. And I always get amazed at how good the swimming animations are, we never had that level of detail in past games it's like sims really can tell the depth of the sand beneath their feet. It doesn't have as much content in bulk but it works better and it is more detailed. I only wish we had the underwater lots :\ Resorts in Island Paradise were mostly a rabbit whole with a few NPC's roaming the lot, you couldn't get room service like in TS2 Bon Voyage nor choose what room to rent for the night so I am not to bothered that they aren't included in this pack, perhaps in a future Vacations EP.

Yes, Sims 3 had more objects and interactions, so credit where it's due. But the core gameplay was too far off what I prefer, so for me it doesn't matter how much is in the bag.

Yes, more objects, more assets, more traits in every pack, more gameplay, more and bigger worlds, more and better interactions, more things to do, more consequences, more building features, more swatches for floors, walls, or anything, more aspirations added in packs, more and newer wants/whims per pack, more special buildings in each pack, didn't check but possibly more CAS assets per pack and on and on. TS4 is like what you hand your five year old kid sister or brother so they won't bother you while you play a bigger and better game.

"Cinebar;c-17127447" wrote:
Yes, more objects, more assets, more traits in every pack, more gameplay, more and bigger worlds, more and better interactions, more things to do, more consequences, more building features, more swatches for floors, walls, or anything, more aspirations added in packs, more and newer wants/whims per pack, more special buildings in each pack, didn't check but possibly more CAS assets per pack and on and on. TS4 is like what you hand your five year old kid sister or brother so they won't bother you while you play a bigger and better game.

CAS assets in Island Living surpass by far the ones from Island Paradise. Especially the hairstyles alone, I know damn well how many and what type of hairs were in Island Paradise and they weren't that great. But TS3 didn't need swatches you had the color wheel.

"Sigzy05;c-17127470" wrote:

"Cinebar;c-17127447" wrote:
Yes, more objects, more assets, more traits in every pack, more gameplay, more and bigger worlds, more and better interactions, more things to do, more consequences, more building features, more swatches for floors, walls, or anything, more aspirations added in packs, more and newer wants/whims per pack, more special buildings in each pack, didn't check but possibly more CAS assets per pack and on and on. TS4 is like what you hand your five year old kid sister or brother so they won't bother you while you play a bigger and better game.

CAS assets in Island Living surpass by far the ones from Island Paradise. Especially the hairstyles alone, I know plum well how many and what type of hairs were in Island Paradise and they weren't that great. But TS3 didn't need swatches you had the color wheel.

The question was does TS3's EPs outweigh TS4 EPs and I was making a general comment overall that yes, they do. Much bigger in all aspects of a the packs compared to each other. I wasn't comparing pack per pack but in general, yes, TS3 has bigger, much bigger EPs. (But if only CAS items are what people are looking for then sure, TS4 has plenty of fluff).

ETA: By swatches I was referring to how many different woods, tiles, and vinyl there are in TS3 compared to TS4, I think it speaks for itself.

TS3 did some things very well, including offering what felt like fresh new things to do and ways to play, as well as variety in the opportunities.

The packs that succeeded for me were the ones that felt like they expanded the sims’ world — not just stuff that they could do for fun but ways to live their whole lives. So I really loved packs like World Adventures, Ambitions, Into the Future, and Generations because they added a lot to the experience of sims’ lives.

Island Paradise for me did not work as well as those packs because it mainly added leisure activities. Houseboats were buggy and not that interesting. The world itself did not appeal to me and was laggy with serious routing issues caused by problems with NPCs and their boats, badly placed spiral staircases and so on. I much preferred Sunlit Tides (a beautiful and well designed world that I played in a lot), but even that was not as immersive as it could have been.

Sims 3 skimped on a lot of lifelike details, particularly the socials and types of interactions available between sims. Even
Generations did not fix that, although it did advance and rectify it somewhat.

Scroll ahead to TS4, and I feel that in many ways the game has a lot of depth and detail lacking in the previous iterations. The socials are still inferior to those of TS2 and the animations lack some of the variety present in that game. However, the animals feel much more real and like themselves, cats really seem like cats and dolphins like dolphins. The weather and gardening systems also feel more fully developed and better integrated together than ever before. In terms of world and play expansion, TS4 allows sims to interact in new, interesting and varied ways with clubs, and unique skills like herbalism, yoga, and archeology (among others).

As for Island Living, I prefer it to IP because it is richer and fuller. The wildlife is extremely well realized and the game feels more organic and lifelike than before. I’ve been playing an off the grid family in Sulani and it’s has been so much fun. Both fishing and swimming have been greatly improved and are now really fun to do. Sailing around you can see the fish in the ocean and the even the part of the pack that might have been gimmicky, the dolphins, feels natural.

My fisher sim was first approached by a curious dolphin, and, appropriately, it took a long time to build trust with it. One time when the encounter was going well, a huge shark swam by and scared my dolphin away. It made scared sounds and immediately left. Even my sim was scared (she got a new tense moodlet) and autonomously swam for shore. It all felt really real. Amazing new opportunities for family play too. I really like the pack and I know I will get a lot out if it.

"Cinebar;c-17127472" wrote:

"Sigzy05;c-17127470" wrote:

"Cinebar;c-17127447" wrote:
Yes, more objects, more assets, more traits in every pack, more gameplay, more and bigger worlds, more and better interactions, more things to do, more consequences, more building features, more swatches for floors, walls, or anything, more aspirations added in packs, more and newer wants/whims per pack, more special buildings in each pack, didn't check but possibly more CAS assets per pack and on and on. TS4 is like what you hand your five year old kid sister or brother so they won't bother you while you play a bigger and better game.

CAS assets in Island Living surpass by far the ones from Island Paradise. Especially the hairstyles alone, I know plum well how many and what type of hairs were in Island Paradise and they weren't that great. But TS3 didn't need swatches you had the color wheel.

The question was does TS3's EPs outweigh TS4 EPs and I was making a general comment overall that yes, they do. Much bigger in all aspects of a the packs compared to each other. I wasn't comparing pack per pack but in general, yes, TS3 has bigger, much bigger EPs. (But if only CAS items are what people are looking for then sure, TS4 has plenty of fluff).

ETA: By swatches I was referring to how many different woods, tiles, and vinyl there are in TS3 compared to TS4, I think it speaks for itself.

Yes, but you did mention CAS and Build/Buy assets and in that regard I think Island Living surpasses IP, in fact that would be most of the EP's, there's always a lot of CAS and Build/Buy assets compared to TS3. In general I do agree that TS3 EP have more gameplay content. But IL does seem to have a lot of details IP didn't have.

But I think that, for an EP, Island Living could have added at least one other transportation method. I'd have loved to see windsurfing there, or rafts that sims can fish in too.

Yes, obviously. You'd have to be blind not to see it.
After I got a new TS3 pack, I had weeks of gameplay staring at me.
I've been obsessing over Island Living for about 5-7 hours (hard to keep track) and I've already exhausted it more or less.)
There's just no competition whatsoever. If Island Paradise had been built and programmed properly, people would still be playing it.

I have some friends who prefer one over the other. The argument is that TS3 has more, but it's not as well done sometimes. So it's a quantity over quality thing, and I'm inclined to agree

Now, I like both TS3 and TS4, and TS4 has gotten pretty buggy too, but it seems like they at least put more thought into how things are implemented in this game. TS3 definitely had more, but

- I had to download Overwatch, a mod, just to keep playing my 6 generation save
- Sometimes it snows so much that my sim kids never go to school and end up with bad grades through no fault of my own
- I turned off the fame system because the constant rumors were annoying and fame spread like a disease
- I also turned off memories because they were a major source of lag and documented EVERY SINGLE MEANINGLESS THING
- Some say Isla Paradiso is laggy, but fortunately I haven't gotten this problem yet so I still like IP
- Even with all the EPs, most of the hairstyles are atrocious IMO and I use very few ones from the store and select packs
- I found some store sets underwhelming, like the carousel, roller coaster, and especially the restaurant set, considering their price . Although I did love some things too
- Toddlers were neglected. They couldn't interact with pets at all, and had almost no content ever in EPs
- TS3 just hangs more often even with good hardware

For TS4, my main complaints would be the emotions system (which was improved by roburky's Meaningful Stories mod), the execution of MFPS, not being able to waterproof electronics (which is a huge problem for GeekCon), dogs lacking stuff like sleeping on beds or being walked by kids, fewer traits with less impact, GTW's retail system, which was done poorly compared to TS2 OFB, the apartments in CL which are inferior to TS2 AL, no CASt, and the lack of world customization

Come to think of it, a lot of TS4's early content and base systems are terrible, and they only really started putting more thought into later things like toddlers and fame

Yeah, I guess The Sims has severely declined in quality since TS2, lol