Disappointed about lounge chairs

The math doesn’t quite add up here. We were told these things were so difficult to create because of multitasking. Ok, fair enough. Sooooooooo how come they aren’t compatible? Multitasking is a core feature of the game, how can it be so easily discarded? This is the definition of poor work. These things do less than they did in Sims 2 and 3, and they didn’t even do much there. Hard to trust anything the studio says when they say one thing and then do a completely different thing.

"Akl500P;c-17118813" wrote:
It’s by design simgurunick asked when someone tweeted him about it. They can drink drinks while relaxing but cannot read or talk to others. I wish they could but hopefully it will be added. At least they are in the game now.

Looked up the tweet because I was curious

https://twitter.com/SimGuruNick/status/1141049791670939648

I'm so baffled that they even need feedback about this. Of course people expect to be able to talk on lounge chairs! The whole game is promoted for its emotions and multi-tasking. Obviously we expected some more from a lounge chair than just some lying down animation.

"XxAirixX;c-17120208" wrote:
I am just happy we get free stuff at all and now have actual lounge chairs for pools. Who reads at the beach or near water anyways? Good way to ruin books and the beach is meant for swimming and all that. If I want my sim to read, she would do it elsewhere.

Seriously?

Well this statement is definitely why we keep getting half baked content. ?

What about keeping open options for those who DO what to do that? I've read by the beach before in the past as well as taken a nap. We all do different things and play different ways and should have the OPEN options to do so.

"Noree_Doree;c-17122196" wrote:

"simgirl1010;c-17120973" wrote:

"Techbilt;c-17120895" wrote:
Seems kind of cheap if they decide to add reading in lounge chairs to a University pack. Tanning and Sunbathing I could understand keeping that action to an EP because Base game doesn't have summer to tan or sunburn the sims. But the base game does have books so I feel it should be a free update to the base game. especially since so far it looks like the only action you can do with a lounge chair is sit lounge and drink.

Maybe it will be included in a pre-University patch. :)

Why do you and others who comment like you keep letting EAxis get away with this with comments like this? It's always maybe they will do it next patch or the patch after that. It took how long for us to get lounge chairs and they still half baked it. To be honest I'm sick of it and sick of holding my tongue about it. I didn't pay all this money to get half baked base game content that came COMPLETED, mind you, in previous iterations base game. It's not right. And then we get simmers like you who keep commenting like this is okay. Now wonder this game keeps getting all this problematic half baked content with no real fixes.


Btw don't care if I get banned for saying this. I'm sick of it all. And tired of watching what I say on here. They need to hear this. It's honest feedback from an unsatisfied customers who's been a customer for over a decade.

You sum it up perfectly. Players need to be more vocal if they are dissatisfied with content rather than just sitting and being patient, otherwise nothing will be done. I think Maxis should put out polls or surveys of some kind after every patch that adds content like this, so players can put in responses about each element added in regards to whether they are satisfied or not. That way things might be rectified sooner, and it could bring attention to these kinds of issues. List each feature, list a rating between 1 and 10 and then leave a space for the user to explain their rating.

Waiting this long for content that was done better practically 15 years ago isn't right. People have scolded me for bringing up past games so often, saying that The Sims 4 is more complex, but if it's more complex why aren't we seeing more complex interactions? Why can't Sims perform more multitasking interactions with a lounge chair, in this case?

"Noree_Doree;c-17122196" wrote:

"simgirl1010;c-17120973" wrote:

"Techbilt;c-17120895" wrote:
Seems kind of cheap if they decide to add reading in lounge chairs to a University pack. Tanning and Sunbathing I could understand keeping that action to an EP because Base game doesn't have summer to tan or sunburn the sims. But the base game does have books so I feel it should be a free update to the base game. especially since so far it looks like the only action you can do with a lounge chair is sit lounge and drink.

Maybe it will be included in a pre-University patch. :)

Why do you and others who comment like you keep letting EAxis get away with this with comments like this? It's always maybe they will do it next patch or the patch after that. It took how long for us to get lounge chairs and they still half baked it. To be honest I'm sick of it and sick of holding my tongue about it. I didn't pay all this money to get half baked base game content that came COMPLETED, mind you, in previous iterations base game. It's not right. And then we get simmers like you who keep commenting like this is okay. Now wonder this game keeps getting all this problematic half baked content with no real fixes.


Btw don't care if I get banned for saying this. I'm sick of it all. And tired of watching what I say on here. They need to hear this. It's honest feedback from an unsatisfied customers who's been a customer for over a decade.

You're giving me, and others who comment like me, too much credit. There is a fixed budget for animations. You'll never know what would have been left out if sleeping, reading, and reclined talking animations had been added to lounge chairs but there is always a trade off. It's been almost 5 years. You should know that by now.

"simgirl1010;c-17122506" wrote:

"Noree_Doree;c-17122196" wrote:

"simgirl1010;c-17120973" wrote:

"Techbilt;c-17120895" wrote:
Seems kind of cheap if they decide to add reading in lounge chairs to a University pack. Tanning and Sunbathing I could understand keeping that action to an EP because Base game doesn't have summer to tan or sunburn the sims. But the base game does have books so I feel it should be a free update to the base game. especially since so far it looks like the only action you can do with a lounge chair is sit lounge and drink.

Maybe it will be included in a pre-University patch. :)

Why do you and others who comment like you keep letting EAxis get away with this with comments like this? It's always maybe they will do it next patch or the patch after that. It took how long for us to get lounge chairs and they still half baked it. To be honest I'm sick of it and sick of holding my tongue about it. I didn't pay all this money to get half baked base game content that came COMPLETED, mind you, in previous iterations base game. It's not right. And then we get simmers like you who keep commenting like this is okay. Now wonder this game keeps getting all this problematic half baked content with no real fixes.


Btw don't care if I get banned for saying this. I'm sick of it all. And tired of watching what I say on here. They need to hear this. It's honest feedback from an unsatisfied customers who's been a customer for over a decade.

You're giving me, and others who comment like me, too much credit. There is a fixed budget for animations. You'll never know what would have been left out if sleeping, reading, and reclined talking animations had been added to lounge chairs but there is always a trade off. It's been almost 5 years. You should know that by now.

I wonder why tradeoffs even exist with a BILLION dollar gaming company? In 2019?

"MadIris;c-17122564" wrote:

"simgirl1010;c-17122506" wrote:

"Noree_Doree;c-17122196" wrote:

"simgirl1010;c-17120973" wrote:

"Techbilt;c-17120895" wrote:
Seems kind of cheap if they decide to add reading in lounge chairs to a University pack. Tanning and Sunbathing I could understand keeping that action to an EP because Base game doesn't have summer to tan or sunburn the sims. But the base game does have books so I feel it should be a free update to the base game. especially since so far it looks like the only action you can do with a lounge chair is sit lounge and drink.

Maybe it will be included in a pre-University patch. :)

Why do you and others who comment like you keep letting EAxis get away with this with comments like this? It's always maybe they will do it next patch or the patch after that. It took how long for us to get lounge chairs and they still half baked it. To be honest I'm sick of it and sick of holding my tongue about it. I didn't pay all this money to get half baked base game content that came COMPLETED, mind you, in previous iterations base game. It's not right. And then we get simmers like you who keep commenting like this is okay. Now wonder this game keeps getting all this problematic half baked content with no real fixes.


Btw don't care if I get banned for saying this. I'm sick of it all. And tired of watching what I say on here. They need to hear this. It's honest feedback from an unsatisfied customers who's been a customer for over a decade.

You're giving me, and others who comment like me, too much credit. There is a fixed budget for animations. You'll never know what would have been left out if sleeping, reading, and reclined talking animations had been added to lounge chairs but there is always a trade off. It's been almost 5 years. You should know that by now.

I wonder why tradeoffs even exist with a BILLION dollar gaming company? In 2019?

*raises hand* Oh, I know, I know! Because they can get away with it!

In all seriousness, it's ridiculous how people are protective as if TS4 is developed by some small indie company with 2 people. It is not. But why bother with more resources when there is no competition at all and people will buy all DLC, no matter what.

"Simburian;c-17122700" wrote:
You might have to wait for Island Life to be out before you get to lie down on lounge chairs I expect. Maxis might unlock it for everybody then. At least you might wait until after that to complain if you don't.

Everybody got lounge chairs with the latest patch.

"simgirl1010;c-17122506" wrote:

"Noree_Doree;c-17122196" wrote:

"simgirl1010;c-17120973" wrote:

"Techbilt;c-17120895" wrote:
Seems kind of cheap if they decide to add reading in lounge chairs to a University pack. Tanning and Sunbathing I could understand keeping that action to an EP because Base game doesn't have summer to tan or sunburn the sims. But the base game does have books so I feel it should be a free update to the base game. especially since so far it looks like the only action you can do with a lounge chair is sit lounge and drink.

Maybe it will be included in a pre-University patch. :)

Why do you and others who comment like you keep letting EAxis get away with this with comments like this? It's always maybe they will do it next patch or the patch after that. It took how long for us to get lounge chairs and they still half baked it. To be honest I'm sick of it and sick of holding my tongue about it. I didn't pay all this money to get half baked base game content that came COMPLETED, mind you, in previous iterations base game. It's not right. And then we get simmers like you who keep commenting like this is okay. Now wonder this game keeps getting all this problematic half baked content with no real fixes.


Btw don't care if I get banned for saying this. I'm sick of it all. And tired of watching what I say on here. They need to hear this. It's honest feedback from an unsatisfied customers who's been a customer for over a decade.

You're giving me, and others who comment like me, too much credit. There is a fixed budget for animations. You'll never know what would have been left out if sleeping, reading, and reclined talking animations had been added to lounge chairs but there is always a trade off. It's been almost 5 years. You should know that by now.

We were told the cost of producing lounge chairs that were compatible with multitasking was literally the hold up. We were told this was the reason we would never see them in any pack other than an expansion because the sheer cost of doing them the right way was too much for any other pack.

So instead of defending the poor work put on display with the lounger why not try being realistic? Why are we now settling for trade offs when literally we were told exactly what the holdup was, and now that all is said and done that wasn’t even remotely true.

What would have been cut if they would have done what they said they were doing all along? No idea, but I’m not going to pretend that their rational makes sense here - at all. They have discarded a core component of the game, does that kind of thing really not matter to you? Stand up for this game if you like it so much, complacency is just allowing them to take advantage of people who defend the straight up lies they tell.

ETA: like if they were gonna do so little they should have came out with this years ago. They brought backlash on themselves by misleading players here 110% for YEARS. Can’t even disagree there because they absolutely did that, and they did it because they know a handful of simmers will defend anything they do no matter what. No offense but that’s exactly what you have been doing this whole thread and it’s very annoying.

I'm not at all offended because I do understand the sentiments expressed in this thread. Call it defending EA or whatever you want but it's just not an issue for me. Even with it's shortcomings I still enjoy the game and prefer this version over the others. Sorry. ?