do the gurus actually look at this forum?

Oh it can’t be denied twitter is more convenient. And I agree it’s their job to develop the game primarily and I’m happy to let them get on with it. But I can’t blame people for feeling out the loop for not using twitter. In my experience I’m used to more dev interaction on forums than twitter for example.

I get that, but since Twitter is more efficient, why not use it? They can interact with more players about more subjects in less time on Twitter. And that's the goal here. To interact with as many people as possible, about as many things as possible. Times change, they move forward. So should we. Plus it's better at Twitter for us too. As usually the communication feels more personal, immidiate and friendly

"geminiagre;c-16820031" wrote:
I get that, but since Twitter is more efficient, why not use it? They can interact with more players about more subjects in less time on Twitter. And that's the goal here. To interact with as many people as possible, about as many things as possible. Times change, they move forward. So should we. Plus it's better at Twitter for us too. As usually the communication feels more personal, immidiate and friendly

Exactly.

"simgirl1010;c-16819958" wrote:
Some may think it unfair but the gurus are quick to respond to suggestions on Twitter. A few examples just from today.

https://twitter.com/CandyGunpowder/status/1060028455998214144?s=19

https://twitter.com/SimGuruGraham/status/1060328429227134977?s=19

and

https://twitter.com/JaviTrulove/status/1059959033162055680?s=19

https://twitter.com/SimGuruGraham/status/1060329708464701440?s=19

and

https://twitter.com/Geoffrey1988/status/1060291838802845698?s=19

https://twitter.com/SimGuruGraham/status/1060320588630114304?s=19

I know it's not a solution most want to hear but you could try tweeting with a link back to the form post.

From my experience, Sim Guru Graham is quite fast in responding, but not everyone.. and I still feel that it is nice if they could come over here and just interact with us once in a while like in one of the threads recently. They don't even have to come here every day.. but perhaps once in a month just like the Maxis monthly. Their presence over here gave us an assurance & impression that they care enough about what the players have experienced. Although it is not their main task, but, as the face of the The Sims franchise, it just seems right for them to visit this forum since this is the official forum unlike the Twitter although they might have 2 different accounts. Still, not all of the contents are Sims related. (I personally have 2 different Twitter account because I don't like to mix personal/professional account with my favourite past time account).

Twitter is a good platform to engage with people when you are popular enough or basically just want to share whatever experience (be it good or boring), get the RT, get the reply, and massive likes.. It is purely good for marketing and sharing, to inform and to learn something new... But, to throw out an idea? I would like to go to a basic and proper channel, because I believe that it will be well thought when we can write or provide a feedback given the space to communicate the idea.. instead of throwing out a few words, get the likes & a reply...

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"geminiagre;c-16818731" wrote:

"wormstache999;c-16818705" wrote:
I'm grateful for the honesty, so thank you for that, Kate :smile:

But it's still disappointing to know that SimGurus officially pay more attention to the Twitter fanbase with their 280 character limit than the official forum here where devoted fans with thousands of previous posts are coming up with all these great and detailed ideas including pictures, solutions and unique thoughts, but now we know it really is a matter of luck if your post gets noted :neutral: It leaves a bad taste in my mouth tbh.

it's technically more easy for them to pay more attention to Twitter. I mean if you have 10 free mins what would you do? answer 20 different questions on Twitter or skim part of a 10 page thread on one subject? There are poeple who are paid to be in the forums and pass on info to the gurus , and i'm pretty sure that other Game Changers who are active in the forums also pass feedback along. The sims Community is huge, it's not just the forums and Twitter, it's also Facebook, random fansites , other social media, and all sorts of gaming sites and media. They can't possibly pay attention to all of them. If they did they should just stop working on the game all together and address everything that comes up on the internet. I think they pick what more accessible, easy and fast to communicate with as many people of the fan base as possible. And either we like it or not, that's twitter

Right, but this is the Official Feedback forum. If people have issues or comments about the game, this is the place to do it. Not anywhere else. It doesn't make sense to listen for feedback somewhere else more than here.

Twitter and facebook are also listed as Official now. So they are as Official as this forum - plus not all simmers can post here if they have language issues. As you can only speak English here - it is not required on twitter and facebook - those are world wide. Non-english speaking simmers do have some official forums as well - but not all simmers have them. So twitter and Facebook ends up the only places where all simmers can interact with the people who actually make the game - directly.

Think about it - a Guru poll on twitter can get 7000 replies from simmers in 24 hours where as here on these forum they are lucky to get 400-600 replies in a week. You tell me where they are going to seek answers from - the 7000 or just 400.

Sure, you have non-english speaking fans on Facebook and Twitter, but the SimGurus have nothing to do with them. Some of them said a few times to only ask questions in English, so it's unlikely they'll answer you in German, Japanese or French. We're only talking about the communication with the SimGurus here and they only communicate in English.

I think polls here often get buried because not every user uses/visits every discussion category. They could still create the polls here and promote them on social media - This way every user could actually participate and they could reach even more fans.
How unfair is it that people who actually bought TS4 can't vote on important decisions like the next supernatural lifestage just because they don't have a Twitter account?

And why don't they have a twitter account. It is very easy - anyone can do it. Takes no time at all. You cannot blame anyone but yourself if you choose not to have an account.

Technically everyone can create a Twitter account, sure, but why should we be forced to be part of another social media platform and learn how it all works there instead of just using the forum here which already exists?

And it's not as easy as you make it out to be - You need a phone number to create a Twitter account and that is a huge deal for me. Tried fake ones you can find on the internet and they never worked. So I wrote a mail to Twitter support that I don't have a phone number (I just don't want to share mine with a social media site who does God knows what with it) and I had to write that same mail three or four times until I finally got a automatic generated mail how to use my phone number. So I replied again with the same message how I don't have a phone number. After weeks they finally replied and unlocked my account without a number.
I actually created a second account a while ago and it took around a week and multiple messages again.
Why should people be forced to bother with that if we have a perfectly fine forum here?

No one said they do not lurk in the forums at all. They are MORE active on on Twitter. They are also aware of quite a few bugs, and they are working on them. You can't expect them to fix all bugs at once. Some are more easy to fix others need more time, and some others get more complicated as the game progresses and need even more time. Or do you want them to half fix stuff just to release a patch? And trust me interesting threads with ideas and feedback always reach them one way or another. They can't though pop in and say "nice idea we'll try to implement" they are under NDA for all future content. The info they can share is very limited. And they do listen. How many of us have been asking for toddlers? Pets? Seasons? Terrain tools?laundry? How do you think they know what the community wants if not by lurking in the forums or somehow having an idea on what's been discussed in the forums? If you are expecting a patch with all the fixes and a pack with all the features , I'm sorry you'll need to wait for a decade, unless they turn into machines and start working 27/7 without having time to either lurk on the forums or even Twitter.
Guys come on, you want them to be active in the forums, communicate with us on every thread , give us all the features we are asking for, the way we want them ,by the time we want them , completely flauless, fix all the bugs immidiately, and keep us informed about everything they r working on. They are not super human guys.

PS tagging them in threads is a good idea for them to easily find the thread and respond if they can, instead of them blindly searching around the forums when they are lurking.

The tweets linked on page 4 here are also old bugs. The developers needed a tweet to start tracking those? The threads on the answers HQ and here werent sufficient for the last year?

@Zasz,

The one bug related tweet was directed to Graham who, as a senior producer in charge of other game related tasks, probably isn't able to stay abreast of the bugs in the game. Therefore he tagged the quality analyst gurus. No where does it indicate the QA gurus are unaware of the bug. In fact quite the opposite. SimguruNick even acknowledges they're still working on it.


https://twitter.com/SimGuruNick/status/1060358727973330944?s=19

"NorthDakotaGamer;c-16820250" wrote:

"geminiagre;c-16820031" wrote:
I get that, but since Twitter is more efficient, why not use it? They can interact with more players about more subjects in less time on Twitter. And that's the goal here. To interact with as many people as possible, about as many things as possible. Times change, they move forward. So should we. Plus it's better at Twitter for us too. As usually the communication feels more personal, immidiate and friendly

Twitter is NOT MORE EFFICIENT!!!!!

It is just another way to be ignored with more LIMITED amounts to be able to write. It is also another way for the "cool popular kids" to exclude parts of the community.

I've never been ignored on Twitter. Nor have I ever seen any other simmer get ignored unless they were rude or kept asking the same thing over and over again even though it has been answered multiple times. And who are the cool popular kids?

Twitter is not anymore efficient than the forums. It makes selective response 100% easier (which is why it’s the preferred platform.. surprise surprise) because unlike the forums a tweet will be buried and lost in 2 hours tops. An active thread on these boards will stay near the top of page 1 so long as people are contributing, something that doesn’t happen in any similar manner on Twitter. I doubt the gurus spend tons of time scrolling through 12+ threads subtweeted for one single tweet, and if they do then there’s no reason they can’t pop in here and post in some of the more active threads.

It all boils down to the fact they don’t want to come here.

"geminiagre;c-16820277" wrote:

"NorthDakotaGamer;c-16820250" wrote:

"geminiagre;c-16820031" wrote:
I get that, but since Twitter is more efficient, why not use it? They can interact with more players about more subjects in less time on Twitter. And that's the goal here. To interact with as many people as possible, about as many things as possible. Times change, they move forward. So should we. Plus it's better at Twitter for us too. As usually the communication feels more personal, immidiate and friendly

Twitter is NOT MORE EFFICIENT!!!!!

It is just another way to be ignored with more LIMITED amounts to be able to write. It is also another way for the "cool popular kids" to exclude parts of the community.

I've never been ignored in Twitter. Nor have I ever seen any other simmer get ignored unless they were rude or kept asking the same thing over and over again even though it has been answered multiple times. And who are the cool popular kids?

I got ignored.. not once... but so many times...but I'm not even rude or keep asking the same thing..I even wish them well... although most of the time, I did notice that they still responded to the same questions from different Simmer many times.. But I know... they need to skim through everything and responded to the most desirable tweet :D The only Sim Guru that responded to my innocent question/suggestion was Sim Guru Graham.. Hats off to him!

I can't accept that Twitter is the best possible way to share ideas unless I can come up with a simple solution (with a possibility to be interpreted differently by anyone because we tend to be biased on something that we are unfamiliar with), attached a proposal..or with thousands of followers.. :D . Again, Twitter is good for sharing, marketing, to inform and to learn (especially with many followers) with a good hashtag, but not really a good platform to discuss ideas...