Fed Up With Issues

Agree whole heartedly with you all. This game was a sinking ship from launch date because of the poor way the shift from online game to stand alone game was handled. On one hand, on the rare occasions I attempt to play I do see some really nice things that I wish I could bring over into TS2. On the other hand, I keep hitting the stone walls of bugs, glitches, shallowness, and all the rest of it. So, I fire up TS2 whenever I want to do any simming, play or build. Can't remember the last time I played, the last time I fired it up was to draw up the plans of a community lot I made so I could translate it into TS2 land. Pretty sad when a game that is at least 2 generations older is far superior.

You just may have hit a key point, a game designed and built by people who don't play the game on a regular basis. If they did play regularly, they would start having the same problems we are, and maybe, just maybe, decide to do something. If only for their own selfish selves.

Glad to hear it isn't just me and my relatively new, though standard HP, Laptop. The franchise is not without its glitches and such, which most of the time is manageable and I ignore them, but the routing/AI pathing issue and actions that queue randomly that you can't cancel has to be its biggest drawback, imo. Half my plays after a certain point consist of pause. Unpause. Pause. I had the same problem with 3 and sometimes 2. Eventually the animation catches up (sorry, I don't know the proper word for this) with the action I have qeued and my sim is able to continue. I've also tested this without scripts and to no avail, even lowered the settings which does help a little.

By now of course, nearly an hour in-game has passed because the time clock is running fine, regardless of sims standing there. Also, why do sims cross over to another room JUST to do a certain action from the same conversation...uh, okay then? Perhaps they aren't play testing as thoroughly as your average simmer would, perhaps they are and only have so much time to devote to the game itself before a deadline nor fix the lingering bugs. If this is indeed the case, than why not confirm it. I mean, at the end of the day it's almost typical of them at this point. Not saying it's right or that we stand by and say nothing, but typical. I understand the frustration.

I'm no expert in what goes on behind the scenes, but I often wonder how something that seems to effect many players goes virtually without a fix for so long. Not degrading anyone, I appreciate what they do fix and the added content they provide via updates, it simply makes me wonder at times. It also makes me question if whether to dump money into any further games they decide to add to the franchise is worth it. Do they actually appreciate the fact we're still supporting them nonstop? Hard to say. Those patch notes can be... taken certain ways, depending on one's perspective. But that's a story for another time.

One thing I've noticed is that the less sims you have in a household, the more responsive the AI is. Not sure what's going on there, could be a storage issue with my PC, but just throwing that out in case anyone has ideas. I wouldn't mind if they got rid of the festivals, it's pretty boring when you've tried everything and the actions specific to NPC's (Ex. Love Guru) would be better suited if they brought back the matchmaking service or did away with the timed event altogether. I love the franchise too much to leave it entirely, but I do play it significantly less than other games.

+ 1. Devs and Gurus, please prioritize in fixing the game before free content and at this point any expansions etc. TS4 is in really rough shape now, and fixing it should be the top priority at this stage. Adding more stuff and not fixing critical issues is only going to make the game worst. EX: If a university expansion is released and the non-interactive sims bug is not fixed, what fun is university going to be when all the sims do is stand around doing nothing? Socialization is a huge part of university.

The Ai is a BIG problem in this game, an example is: a toddler who's starving that grab a plate of food and climb the stairs to eat on the bedroom chair, it takes her a lot of time, when there is a chair right in the kitchen for her, perfectly usable as she used it in the past. The reason she does this is because the cat is sleeping in the bedroom. And this is not even a bug, this is by plum design.

"Writin_Reg;c-16739608" wrote:

"SiliClone;c-16738144" wrote:
The Ai is a BIG problem in this game, an example is: a toddler who's starving that grab a plate of food and climb the stairs to eat on the bedroom chair, it takes her a lot of time, when there is a chair right in the kitchen for her, perfectly usable as she used it in the past. The reason she does this is because the cat is sleeping in the bedroom. And this is not even a bug, this is by plum design.

Simply remove the problem - which is apparently the bedroom chair. Problem solved - the tot will use the closer chair. Or maybe lock the cat out of her bedroom - attraction gone.

I really hope that was more of a joke because it's not a good solution - It's just an annoying workaround. Because it basically means your pets and other Sims always need to be in the room where Sims are supposed to eat and you can't have any other comfort items anywhere (not even beds).

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"Writin_Reg;c-16739713" wrote:

"wormstache999;c-16739706" wrote:

"Writin_Reg;c-16739608" wrote:

"SiliClone;c-16738144" wrote:
The Ai is a BIG problem in this game, an example is: a toddler who's starving that grab a plate of food and climb the stairs to eat on the bedroom chair, it takes her a lot of time, when there is a chair right in the kitchen for her, perfectly usable as she used it in the past. The reason she does this is because the cat is sleeping in the bedroom. And this is not even a bug, this is by plum design.

Simply remove the problem - which is apparently the bedroom chair. Problem solved - the tot will use the closer chair. Or maybe lock the cat out of her bedroom - attraction gone.

I really hope that was more of a joke because it's not a good solution - It's just an annoying workaround. Because it basically means your pets and other Sims always need to be in the room where Sims are supposed to eat and you can't have any other comfort items anywhere (not even beds).

No it is not a real solution for people who get those issues. Keep in mind not every one gets all these issues - so I dispute it is simply an AI problem other wise I would have those problems too. You can't change an AI because some computers apparently have configure issues with the AI that all computers do not have. The computers with issues either need to be re-cognfigured - which depend on your skill at doing that or a simple solution - change the article of contention - the cat or the chair.

After all these years of Sims games we go through this with every rendition of the game - where there is always some pcs that play flawless with the game and some won't get along at all - it all come down to configurations in variants in different pcs and finding with the right match - I've been lucky Sims 2, 3 and Sims 4 - flawless mostly (helps - hubby an amazing pc tech who is a whiz at recognfiguring my pc to exact specifications needed 99 percent of the time) - had issues in sims 2 with Securum and certain high end Intel Duo pcs especially if that pc ran one of he Nortons anti virus programs (that one hat had that unstable scanner system in it) - finally through in the towel went back to AMC Asus super computer gaming desktop - no more problem. It's just the way it always is - there is no way with all the types of pc configs there are out there -all will ever work flawlessly with all game programming. PCs are not identical consoles and why there will be issues s long as players do not know how to recognfigure their own pc to make them work as the game is designed. Maybe buy the exact system the devs use to make the game - if you can't do that - can't re-cognfigure your own system to match - then you find a work around - because chances are the broken issues is for the least number of systems - not the majority. When it is the majority - that is a real bug and then Maxis can fix it because the majority of machine would have broken games - but less than that you are better off finding a work around instead of just having a hissy fit or waiting for ever. It's not a joke - it is a way to play your game without pulling your hair out completely.

I admit I have no clue about programing games, but shouldn't the behavior of NPC/AI be unrelated to your computer specs? I understand that some glitches can happen when you barely have the minimum requirements for a game, but the behavior of Sims should always stay the same.
To me it seems more like people have different methods of playing and building, and that's why some of us constantly get certain bugs or annoying Sim behavior while others like you apparently don't. There are enough players out there who have the newest hardware and they get the same bugs as people who have some older low-budget computer (including the weird behavior of the Sims).

OK just doped in to see the state of the game origin hasn't been on my comp for a while now, what I see is shareholders making excuses again. NOT buying anything from EA EVER again see you all hope you give up like I did soon :)

That behaviour is by design, it was said in a video by maxis on twitch some time ago, it's not a problem of configuration. And I happen to like the chair in the bedroom, I know workarounds.. I just like the sim to be smart enough to choose the nearest chair to eat, like they did in the sims 2 and 3.