This time I think that new KIT matches to the game and will fill the gap of industrial items but I have some thoughts:1. I'm happy that we receive 3 heights of lamps, but why no windows and doors this time? I afraid that new window will not match to Moschino ones.2. ~25 textures is not too much. I like the variety of items, but I miss a regular chair, doors and build items as pillars, floors or wall paintings. 35 textures will be enough to create a KIT whitout any major gaps.https://simscommunity.info/wp-content/uploads/2021/08/unknown-810x453.pnghttps://simscommunity.info/wp-content/uploads/2021/08/unknown-1.png3. Base Game kitchen will be more popular finally but, 3 swatches is not enough. Especially in Game Files we have 7 more (but never used) swatches.https://pboxx.files.wordpress.com/2016/03/vault-morecolours_cat.jpg?w=2000&h=https://pboxx.files.wordpress.com/2016/03/vault-morecolours_front.jpg?w=660Source: https://pboxx.wordpress.com/2015/10/19/unlocked-vault-colour-options-no-splash-counters/4. To be honest, we have no space for industrial houses and apartments in TS4. In real life, lofts look like that:https://loftaparts.pl/wp-content/uploads/2020/06/MG_7826.jpghttps://archirama.smcloud.net/s/photos/t/7839/lofty_w_lodzi_114931.jpghttps://loftsbrooklyn.com/140109-EXT-RENDERING.jpghttps://i.pinimg.com/originals/1d/80/83/1d8083544eb0134a813912e585ad2995.jpgIn TS4 we have only 2 lots which are matching to this style:https://media.contentapi.ea.com/content/dam/www-thesims/2016/10/TS4_EP03_ANN_Lifts_03.jpg.adapt.crop16x9.1455w.jpgDue to that we need more post-industrial neighbourhoods

I was right, lol, by saying the next thing to be released would be a kit. (In a guessing thread). I'm sorry but some of this stuff looks some of the counters and things I already had in my game (very similar). And you are right, no vacant spots and CL would be a good place to build industrial warehouses, too, and a few other worlds (particular spots) but we don't have any free spaces to build upon to make it all look more of a revamped warehouse district. Maybe they do a new world to go along with this kit and charge $20 for it.

It sort of reminds me of the girl dancer's warehouse loft in the 1980 Flashdance.

In comparison to the 2 last builds kits, I really like it, because it has a lot of BB that I will always use in my build for my Sims.

EXCUSE ME?? Those hidden swatches are so nice!! Why are they hidden ? I would use those counters so much more...

"lexibee;c-17964096" wrote:EXCUSE ME?? Those hidden swatches are so nice!! Why are they hidden ? I would use those counters so much more...If you're not opposed to CC, Plasticbox on Mod the Sims liberated those hidden swatches on her "no backsplash" counter tops years ago.https://modthesims.info/d/566198/unlocked-vault-colour-options-no-splash-version.htmlAnd, Madhox, also on MTS4, created new meshes to match that kitchen but I'm not sure if he also included those "hidden" swatches on his.https://modthesims.info/d/585595/vault-cabinets-expansion.html

Industrial Loft KIT looks fine but...

Felicity_Bane
4 years ago
"g01denswan;c-17964652" wrote:
"Felicity;c-17964589" wrote:
A lot of those items look like ~~reskins~~ recolors of items already in the game. And this is why CASt will never come back.

Which items are you referring to?

I just watched the video that James Turner made and the stuff he used look nothing like what’s shown in the photo I saw of the kit content.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1A8MtyNLkO0

Even if you think they do look alike, people would need to buy a bunch of packs to get all the content he used instead of only buying a $5.00 kit. Not everyone has already bought all those packs.

I hope EA does not listen to him about using cc creators to make kits as I think:

1. CC should remain free for those who cannot afford paid content
2. If I wanted to use CC, I would already be doing so and supporting them
3. Some CC creators make really bad content. Harry’s content isn’t the worst, but also isn’t the best that I’ve seen
4. Some CC creators make non-Maxis match content which I don’t want in my game
5. Some CC creators are already making big money and don’t need EA’s help

I think EA game changers should stick to influencing us to buy the game. I’ve noticed that many of them are now just trying to promote their own social media instead of the game so are agreeing with whatever is said by their followers without regard for truth.

Hah, after watching his video, I will say, yes, definitely look like recolors of included items. Do they look identical? No, they look like recolors. Many pieces look like they could not survive a game with CASt.

I don't use CC, fwiw. It was more an issue with CASt not being part of Sims 4 despite it being in a previous iteration. Didn't Sims 2 also have a out-of-game program to recolor and retexture items? I don't even remember. But the step backwards definitely has profit potential for EA.

I think game changers should absolutely give their opinions, btw. They're entertainers, not marketing departments.
AineOfMay
Seasoned Spectator
4 years ago
I definitely think they could add more to these kits because they're really pricey IMO. Where I am it's not really that expensive, so I'm okay with what we get, but I think the themes are a bit hit and miss. I think this could have been a stuff pack instead. I think smaller niche themes like the moroccan kit and gameplay kits like bust the dust are good themes to go for, not this exactly because something will always be missing if the budget don't let you complete the theme. Bad choice of theme this time around.
g01denswan
Rising Spectator
4 years ago
"Felicity;c-17964677" wrote:
"g01denswan;c-17964652" wrote:
"Felicity;c-17964589" wrote:
A lot of those items look like ~~reskins~~ recolors of items already in the game. And this is why CASt will never come back.

Which items are you referring to?

I just watched the video that James Turner made and the stuff he used look nothing like what’s shown in the photo I saw of the kit content.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1A8MtyNLkO0

Even if you think they do look alike, people would need to buy a bunch of packs to get all the content he used instead of only buying a $5.00 kit. Not everyone has already bought all those packs.

I hope EA does not listen to him about using cc creators to make kits as I think:

1. CC should remain free for those who cannot afford paid content
2. If I wanted to use CC, I would already be doing so and supporting them
3. Some CC creators make really bad content. Harry’s content isn’t the worst, but also isn’t the best that I’ve seen
4. Some CC creators make non-Maxis match content which I don’t want in my game
5. Some CC creators are already making big money and don’t need EA’s help

I think EA game changers should stick to influencing us to buy the game. I’ve noticed that many of them are now just trying to promote their own social media instead of the game so are agreeing with whatever is said by their followers without regard for truth.

Hah, after watching his video, I will say, yes, definitely look like recolors of included items. Do they look identical? No, they look like recolors. Many pieces look like they could not survive a game with CASt.

I don't use CC, fwiw. It was more an issue with CASt not being part of Sims 4 despite it being in a previous iteration. Didn't Sims 2 also have a out-of-game program to recolor and retexture items? I don't even remember. But the step backwards definitely has profit potential for EA.

I think game changers should absolutely give their opinions, btw. They're entertainers, not marketing departments.

Recolours don’t use the same meshes. So if they are not identical in shape, then they are remeshes not recolours. Remeshes take longer to make than recolours, but less time than new gameplay objects.

I miss CASt as well, but I don’t think they purposely excluded it so they can sell recolours or remeshes. TS3 had CASt and sold remeshed objects as well. We can only recolour or retexture stuff with CASt, not remesh them. TS2 had Body Shop.

Yes, game changers should give their opinion, but they should not perpetuate misinformation to gain followers, which is the issue I have with some of them.
DaWaterRat
Seasoned Adventurer
4 years ago
"Felicity;c-17964677" wrote:
"g01denswan;c-17964652" wrote:
"Felicity;c-17964589" wrote:
A lot of those items look like ~~reskins~~ recolors of items already in the game. And this is why CASt will never come back.

Which items are you referring to?

I just watched the video that James Turner made and the stuff he used look nothing like what’s shown in the photo I saw of the kit content.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1A8MtyNLkO0

Even if you think they do look alike, people would need to buy a bunch of packs to get all the content he used instead of only buying a $5.00 kit. Not everyone has already bought all those packs.

I hope EA does not listen to him about using cc creators to make kits as I think:

1. CC should remain free for those who cannot afford paid content
2. If I wanted to use CC, I would already be doing so and supporting them
3. Some CC creators make really bad content. Harry’s content isn’t the worst, but also isn’t the best that I’ve seen
4. Some CC creators make non-Maxis match content which I don’t want in my game
5. Some CC creators are already making big money and don’t need EA’s help

I think EA game changers should stick to influencing us to buy the game. I’ve noticed that many of them are now just trying to promote their own social media instead of the game so are agreeing with whatever is said by their followers without regard for truth.

Hah, after watching his video, I will say, yes, definitely look like recolors of included items. Do they look identical? No, they look like recolors. Many pieces look like they could not survive a game with CASt.

Nope. Mesh edits? Possibly. But not recolors. Create a Style isn't going to change the direction on the legs of the Bar chairs, or remove curtains from the bed (not to mention change the shape of the headboard), and those are the two items in the pack that I think are the most similar to existing ones. Last I checked, no version of Sims has an option to include Style Morphs for either furniture or clothing, so any change that can't be done with a displacement, bump, or normal map (which is any change in the angle of the structure, or gaps in the mesh, or large changes to size - including removal) needs a new mesh, or at least an edit of the old one.

I mean, while I've had this problem less in The Sims and more in working with Graphic art, I've had plenty of times when I've had two similarly meshed items where one just fit the scene better than the other, even if they were objectively practically the same item.
Melisendre
New Spectator
4 years ago
I don't need kits like this with stuff we already have in the game. This isn't the sense of kits for me.
PERAL01
4 years ago
The issue for me is not the price but getting more of what I alreday got in my bb objects
DaWaterRat
Seasoned Adventurer
4 years ago
I will say that I'd like it if future build/buy kits, rather than being basically a room's worth of furniture in a single aesthetic style, were things like a half-dozen styles of curtains in multiple wall heights, or two dozen bathroom clutter items, or a dozen and one different styles of toddler bed with matching "big kid" single beds for when they become kids, or a bunch of paintings on a theme.

As long as Build/Buy kits are basically room kits, they're always going to feel like they could have done something more/else.
AineOfMay
Seasoned Spectator
4 years ago
"logion;c-17964725" wrote:
"Aine;c-17964684" wrote:
I definitely think they could add more to these kits because they're really pricey IMO. Where I am it's not really that expensive, so I'm okay with what we get, but I think the themes are a bit hit and miss. I think this could have been a stuff pack instead. I think smaller niche themes like the moroccan kit and gameplay kits like bust the dust are good themes to go for, not this exactly because something will always be missing if the budget don't let you complete the theme. Bad choice of theme this time around.

I agree about that this should have been a stuff pack. I think I have come to the conclusion that my main issue with kits are the low budget and amount of content that comes with them... and in order for Maxis to add more items without them being mesh edits EA probably would want to raise the price and then it's a stuff pack instead.

So I'm not sure how I feel about kits now to be honest, yes, some items are more or less mesh edits but they are probably not gonna put in more effort into these kits without EA wanting to raise the price for them.

I am not sure if they should raise the price in order to get more interesting items in their kits, or if we should be happy with the quality with them. If this kit would have had some more unique items or "hero items" like the team liked to call them like a wood pallet bed or something I would be much more interested.

Yeah, I think they should just do smaller themes instead tbh. Like bust the dust, it was a great idea, because not all simmers would want this in a bigger pack, so it's perfect for a kit. Ofcourse they have to deliver on the quality still, but the idea is solid IMO. I just don't think that all themes work for kits, as they can seem very sparse if the theme naturally should include more than a kit allows for, so yeah.
I would personally LOVE more gameplay kits. There's so much they could add now with Lot Challenges for starters. I'm sure there are a lot of gameplay they have thought about adding that quite never 'fits' a pack - I'm okay with them adding those in a kit, and I actually think more gameplay is worth the price.
x4m1r4
4 years ago
"LeGardePourpre;c-17964757" wrote:
At the same time nobody is forced to purchase this pack.

I think the kits were never designed to satisfy everybody, this is stuff for a specific group of players.

I would say, yes. It's for a specific group of Simmers only. I personally love it! I like this kind of style. :D
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elliebreton
Seasoned Veteran
4 years ago
@x4m1r4 I love what you've done with it!

I doubt if I will buy this for a while as I am currently in the thick of chickens and llamas, but I could see me wanting this in the future.