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4 years ago

Is anyone else disappointed with the High Maintenance trait?

Title says it all, really. I was just wondering if I'm alone in my frustrations or if anyone is having the same problems. At first I was really excited about its inclusion and the possibilities, especially after that trait update a while back, but....

Not only does it feel like it's lacking in depth with just completely random moodlets (Maybe it was silly of me, but I thought my high maintenance single college-going mom sim that's barely scraping by and has a wild toddler and is currently living off of mostly quick meals would have plenty to be stressed about, aside from randomly getting upset for hours about getting her behind splashed with toilet water) but I think my biggest gripe so far is the completely random "WORST DAY EVER" moodlet.

I've had my same sim die from cardiac explosion three times now because someone thought it was a good idea to have a random +5 angry moodlet that lasts for 8 hours I can't seem to do anything about 😭 other than try and bury it in positive moodlets. Calming her down at a mirror, cold showers, none of it is doing anything to even ease the moodlet a little and make it last a shorter amount of time, and I can't tell if that's a bug/oversight or meant to be a feature. :/

I feel like this would be one thing if it was actually triggered by something. The first time it happened her house was super dirty and her toddler was throwing a tantrum and her stove broke, so I thought that was it and it would have been a welcome challenge in that case if more could actually be done to counter it. But now that she's died twice in a spotless home after perfectly lovely mornings? I'm tired. 🥺

Sorry for the short rant, I was just so excited! And I want more challenge in the game and that's why I was excited, but this just feels excessive. Am I alone in feeling like this, or are others disappointed/having their own misadventures with the trait?

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anyone else disappointed with the High Maintenance trait?","id":"message:1181231","revisionNum":1,"author":{"__ref":"User:user:99864"},"depth":0,"hasGivenKudo":false,"board":{"__ref":"Forum:board:the-sims-4-general-discussion-en"},"conversation":{"__ref":"Conversation:conversation:1181231"},"readOnly":false,"editFrozen":false,"moderationData":{"__ref":"ModerationData:moderation_data:1181231"},"body":"Title says it all, really. I was just wondering if I'm alone in my frustrations or if anyone is having the same problems. At first I was really excited about its inclusion and the possibilities, especially after that trait update a while back, but....

Not only does it feel like it's lacking in depth with just completely random moodlets (Maybe it was silly of me, but I thought my high maintenance single college-going mom sim that's barely scraping by and has a wild toddler and is currently living off of mostly quick meals would have plenty to be stressed about, aside from randomly getting upset for hours about getting her behind splashed with toilet water) but I think my biggest gripe so far is the completely random \"WORST DAY EVER\" moodlet.

I've had my same sim die from cardiac explosion three times now because someone thought it was a good idea to have a random +5 angry moodlet that lasts for 8 hours I can't seem to do anything about 😭 other than try and bury it in positive moodlets. Calming her down at a mirror, cold showers, none of it is doing anything to even ease the moodlet a little and make it last a shorter amount of time, and I can't tell if that's a bug/oversight or meant to be a feature. :/

I feel like this would be one thing if it was actually triggered by something. The first time it happened her house was super dirty and her toddler was throwing a tantrum and her stove broke, so I thought that was it and it would have been a welcome challenge in that case if more could actually be done to counter it. But now that she's died twice in a spotless home after perfectly lovely mornings? I'm tired. 🥺

Sorry for the short rant, I was just so excited! And I want more challenge in the game and that's why I was excited, but this just feels excessive. Am I alone in feeling like this, or are others disappointed/having their own misadventures with the trait?","body@stringLength":"1945","rawBody":"Title says it all, really. I was just wondering if I'm alone in my frustrations or if anyone is having the same problems. At first I was really excited about its inclusion and the possibilities, especially after that trait update a while back, but....

Not only does it feel like it's lacking in depth with just completely random moodlets (Maybe it was silly of me, but I thought my high maintenance single college-going mom sim that's barely scraping by and has a wild toddler and is currently living off of mostly quick meals would have plenty to be stressed about, aside from randomly getting upset for hours about getting her behind splashed with toilet water) but I think my biggest gripe so far is the completely random \"WORST DAY EVER\" moodlet.

I've had my same sim die from cardiac explosion three times now because someone thought it was a good idea to have a random +5 angry moodlet that lasts for 8 hours I can't seem to do anything about 😭 other than try and bury it in positive moodlets. Calming her down at a mirror, cold showers, none of it is doing anything to even ease the moodlet a little and make it last a shorter amount of time, and I can't tell if that's a bug/oversight or meant to be a feature. :/

I feel like this would be one thing if it was actually triggered by something. The first time it happened her house was super dirty and her toddler was throwing a tantrum and her stove broke, so I thought that was it and it would have been a welcome challenge in that case if more could actually be done to counter it. But now that she's died twice in a spotless home after perfectly lovely mornings? I'm tired. 🥺

Sorry for the short rant, I was just so excited! And I want more challenge in the game and that's why I was excited, but this just feels excessive. Am I alone in feeling like this, or are others disappointed/having their own misadventures with the trait?","kudosSumWeight":1,"repliesCount":69,"postTime":"2021-09-09T07:54:47.000+01:00","images":{"__typename":"AssociatedImageConnection","edges":[],"totalCount":0,"pageInfo":{"__typename":"PageInfo","hasNextPage":false,"endCursor":null,"hasPreviousPage":false,"startCursor":null}},"attachments":{"__typename":"AttachmentConnection","pageInfo":{"__typename":"PageInfo","hasNextPage":false,"endCursor":null,"hasPreviousPage":false,"startCursor":null},"edges":[]},"tags":{"__typename":"TagConnection","pageInfo":{"__typename":"PageInfo","hasNextPage":false,"endCursor":null,"hasPreviousPage":false,"startCursor":null},"edges":[{"__typename":"TagEdge","cursor":"MjQuMTB8Mi4xfG98MTB8X05WX3wx","node":{"__typename":"Tag","id":"tag:feedback","text":"feedback","time":"2023-02-05T14:25:45.000Z","lastActivityTime":null,"messagesCount":null,"followersCount":null}}]},"timeToRead":2,"currentRevision":{"__ref":"Revision:revision:1181231_1"},"latestVersion":null,"metrics":{"__typename":"MessageMetrics","views":4128},"visibilityScope":"PUBLIC","canonicalUrl":null,"seoTitle":null,"seoDescription":null,"isEscalated":null,"placeholder":false,"originalMessageForPlaceholder":null,"messagePolicies":{"__typename":"MessagePolicies","canModerateSpamMessage":{"__typename":"PolicyResult","failureReason":{"__typename":"FailureReason","message":"error.lithium.policies.feature.moderation_spam.action.moderate_entity.allowed.accessDenied","key":"error.lithium.policies.feature.moderation_spam.action.moderate_entity.allowed.accessDenied","args":[]}}},"archivalData":null,"searchSnippet":"Title says it all, really. 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\"Pamtastic72;c-17974692\" wrote:
\"carpe_diem;c-17974631\" wrote:
\"GirafHuntr;c-17974611\" wrote:
\"carpe_diem;c-17974608\" wrote:
I’m ok with very strong emotions (like extreme anger) but I would like to see a toggle that Turn off emotional deaths. I can’t explore / use strong emotions in the game bc of the dying ?


Use MCCC, then you can turn off emotional deaths, and do so much more. I honestly don't know how anyone plays this game without it. :grin:


Thanks for the tip! There are so many mods that I want in my game, but I never use mods bc my computer / technique level is probably -9.99%. I can’t fix the game if a mod breaks it. ? I’m one of those ppl that report bugs and never used any mods (yeah sims 4 actually have a lot of bugs not caused by mods?). I hope the devs will start looking into the mod comunity and implement highly appreciated mods in the game (Slice Of Life / MCCC) ???. That would also be fair to Console players.


If you don’t want mods, you can use a cheat to turn death off.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IAxx0XIoN6I


Thanks for sharing the video, I appreciate! :)
But I really want deaths in the sims (age / drowning / fire…), not just the emotional deaths.
I can see that it can be a fun challenge to keep your sim alive but I would like to experience this emotional states instead.
It’s a pity that there are more levels to emotions that I just avoid to keep my sim alive. I want to see them Enraged / Hysterical / Mortified. I also don't want to nerfed the emotional deaths bc there are others that seem to enjoy it.

@SheriSim57 I agree! Love your ideas with extreme emotions affecting Blood presure / Illnesses / Medication / Consequences! I would love to have that in the game! Share them in the GTW Refresh thread if you want. I would love to see updates like that, it would give more depth to emotions. Maybe there are multiple threads on GTW Refresh, but here's one of them:
https://forums.thesims.com/en_US/discussion/comment/17964858#Comment_17964858
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\"Pamtastic72;c-17974751\" wrote:
If they nerf this trait I'm going to have a cardiac explosion. If my sims die they die, I can always redownload them off of the gallery. I'm tired of this game being an easy street simulator. I want things beyond my control to happen sometimes. Just like in real life, you can't always toggle off the unexpected.


HAHA! Yeah me too! ?? Plz do not nerfed the trait! But give me a toggle I want to be Hysterical in sims, not just IRL lol! ?","body@stripHtml({\"removeProcessingText\":false,\"removeSpoilerMarkup\":false,\"removeTocMarkup\":false,\"truncateLength\":200})@stringLength":"203","kudosSumWeight":1,"repliesCount":0,"postTime":"2021-09-09T22:17:02.000+01:00","lastPublishTime":"2021-09-09T22:17:02.000+01:00","metrics":{"__typename":"MessageMetrics","views":0},"visibilityScope":"PUBLIC","placeholder":false,"originalMessageForPlaceholder":null,"isEscalated":null,"solution":false,"replies":{"__typename":"MessageConnection","pageInfo":{"__typename":"PageInfo","hasNextPage":false,"endCursor":null,"hasPreviousPage":false,"startCursor":null},"edges":[]},"customFields":[],"attachments":{"__typename":"AttachmentConnection","edges":[],"pageInfo":{"__typename":"PageInfo","hasNextPage":false,"endCursor":null,"hasPreviousPage":false,"startCursor":null}}},"Rank:rank:44":{"__typename":"Rank","id":"rank:44","position":47,"name":"Rising Observer","color":"000000","icon":null,"rankStyle":"TEXT"},"User:user:156538":{"__typename":"User","id":"user:156538","uid":156538,"login":"Babykittyjade","biography":null,"registrationData":{"__typename":"RegistrationData","status":null,"registrationTime":"2012-01-24T18:47:35.000Z","confirmEmailStatus":null,"registrationAccessLevel":null,"ssoRegistrationFields":[]},"deleted":false,"email":"","avatar":{"__typename":"UserAvatar","url":"https://forums.ea.com/t5/s/tghpe58374/m_assets/avatars/custom/sims_05-1720030033409.jpg"},"rank":{"__ref":"Rank:rank:44"},"messagesCount":-8,"kudosGivenCount":3507,"kudosReceivedCount":3597,"kudosWeight":1,"ssoId":null,"followersCount":null,"solutionsCount":0},"ModerationData:moderation_data:1181266":{"__typename":"ModerationData","id":"moderation_data:1181266","status":"APPROVED","rejectReason":null,"isReportedAbuse":false,"rejectUser":null,"rejectTime":null,"rejectActorType":null},"ForumReplyMessage:message:1181266":{"__typename":"ForumReplyMessage","author":{"__ref":"User:user:156538"},"id":"message:1181266","revisionNum":1,"uid":1181266,"depth":1,"hasGivenKudo":false,"subscribed":false,"board":{"__ref":"Forum:board:the-sims-4-general-discussion-en"},"parent":{"__ref":"ForumTopicMessage:message:1181231"},"conversation":{"__ref":"Conversation:conversation:1181231"},"subject":"Re: Is anyone else disappointed with the High Maintenance trait?","moderationData":{"__ref":"ModerationData:moderation_data:1181266"},"body":"Same pamtastic??? it was one of the things I mentioned in the 411. The nerfing HAS to stop.
Then people want to complain about how boring and samey everything is.

And yes OP I know you are not asking for a nerf or anything but I'm sensitive on these topics because some of my favorite traits and features are gone for life when people had the option to not use the said feature/trait or use the in game toggles? and it usually starts with topics like this.
It's nothing personal op ?

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\"carpe_diem;c-17974754\" wrote:
\"Pamtastic72;c-17974751\" wrote:
If they nerf this trait I'm going to have a cardiac explosion. If my sims die they die, I can always redownload them off of the gallery. I'm tired of this game being an easy street simulator. I want things beyond my control to happen sometimes. Just like in real life, you can't always toggle off the unexpected.


HAHA! Yeah me too! ?? Plz do not nerfed the trait! But give me a toggle I want to be Hysterical in sims, not just IRL lol! ?


There are toggles though, there's the mirror to talk them down, there's the moodlet solver potion you can buy with aspiration points and carry with you that will eliminate the buff before it can kill your sims. You can send them to sleep, or just nap and lots of times that kills the buff, not all toggles are switches you spend 6 hours turning off and on before you can even play the game. Some toggles are gameplay features and it's up to players to utilize them. Vampires had toggles, wreaths and braids of garlic, planting garlic. Weather deaths have toggles in the game options you can literally turn off the effects of hot and cold on your sims, but that wasn't good enough. These got nerfed anyway even with toggles. The Murphy bed had a toggle in that if you upgraded it, it wouldn't break and thereby it wouldn't kill you, still got nerfed. Alien abductions had toggles like not entering the science career, using the satellite dish to prevent abductions, avoiding alien night at the bar, still nerfed. Enough is enough. I don't want the devs to nerf=tune down anymore features. Players need to utilize the tools in the game to mitigate the effects they don't like.","body@stripHtml({\"removeProcessingText\":false,\"removeSpoilerMarkup\":false,\"removeTocMarkup\":false,\"truncateLength\":200})@stringLength":"203","kudosSumWeight":1,"repliesCount":0,"postTime":"2021-09-09T22:31:52.000+01:00","lastPublishTime":"2021-09-09T22:31:52.000+01:00","metrics":{"__typename":"MessageMetrics","views":0},"visibilityScope":"PUBLIC","placeholder":false,"originalMessageForPlaceholder":null,"isEscalated":null,"solution":false,"replies":{"__typename":"MessageConnection","pageInfo":{"__typename":"PageInfo","hasNextPage":false,"endCursor":null,"hasPreviousPage":false,"startCursor":null},"edges":[]},"customFields":[],"attachments":{"__typename":"AttachmentConnection","edges":[],"pageInfo":{"__typename":"PageInfo","hasNextPage":false,"endCursor":null,"hasPreviousPage":false,"startCursor":null}}},"ModerationData:moderation_data:1181268":{"__typename":"ModerationData","id":"moderation_data:1181268","status":"APPROVED","rejectReason":null,"isReportedAbuse":false,"rejectUser":null,"rejectTime":null,"rejectActorType":null},"ForumReplyMessage:message:1181268":{"__typename":"ForumReplyMessage","author":{"__ref":"User:user:63694"},"id":"message:1181268","revisionNum":1,"uid":1181268,"depth":1,"hasGivenKudo":false,"subscribed":false,"board":{"__ref":"Forum:board:the-sims-4-general-discussion-en"},"parent":{"__ref":"ForumTopicMessage:message:1181231"},"conversation":{"__ref":"Conversation:conversation:1181231"},"subject":"Re: Is anyone else disappointed with the High Maintenance trait?","moderationData":{"__ref":"ModerationData:moderation_data:1181268"},"body":"
\"Pamtastic72;c-17974762\" wrote:
\"carpe_diem;c-17974754\" wrote:
\"Pamtastic72;c-17974751\" wrote:
If they nerf this trait I'm going to have a cardiac explosion. If my sims die they die, I can always redownload them off of the gallery. I'm tired of this game being an easy street simulator. I want things beyond my control to happen sometimes. Just like in real life, you can't always toggle off the unexpected.


HAHA! Yeah me too! ?? Plz do not nerfed the trait! But give me a toggle I want to be Hysterical in sims, not just IRL lol! ?


There are toggles though, there's the mirror to talk them down, there's the moodlet solver potion you can buy with aspiration points and carry with you that will eliminate the buff before it can kill your sims. You can send them to sleep, or just nap and lots of times that kills the buff, not all toggles are switches you spend 6 hours turning off and on before you can even play the game. Some toggles are gameplay features and it's up to players to utilize them. Vampires had toggles, wreaths and braids of garlic, planting garlic. Weather deaths have toggles in the game options you can literally turn off the effects of hot and cold on your sims, but that wasn't good enough. These got nerfed anyway even with toggles. The Murphy bed had a toggle in that if you upgraded it, it wouldn't break and thereby it wouldn't kill you, still got nerfed. Alien abductions had toggles like not entering the science career, using the satellite dish to prevent abductions, avoiding alien night at the bar, still nerfed. Enough is enough. I don't want the devs to nerf=tune down anymore features. Players need to utilize the tools in the game to mitigate the effects they don't like.


But theres no way to play with your sim in the extreme emotional states without killing them. The toggle would be there for players that want to experience the Enraged / Hysterical / Mortified emotion. Preferably, Emotional deaths should be turned on as default.","body@stripHtml({\"removeProcessingText\":false,\"removeSpoilerMarkup\":false,\"removeTocMarkup\":false,\"truncateLength\":200})@stringLength":"203","kudosSumWeight":1,"repliesCount":0,"postTime":"2021-09-09T22:43:10.000+01:00","lastPublishTime":"2021-09-09T22:43:10.000+01:00","metrics":{"__typename":"MessageMetrics","views":0},"visibilityScope":"PUBLIC","placeholder":false,"originalMessageForPlaceholder":null,"isEscalated":null,"solution":false,"replies":{"__typename":"MessageConnection","pageInfo":{"__typename":"PageInfo","hasNextPage":false,"endCursor":null,"hasPreviousPage":false,"startCursor":null},"edges":[]},"customFields":[],"attachments":{"__typename":"AttachmentConnection","edges":[],"pageInfo":{"__typename":"PageInfo","hasNextPage":false,"endCursor":null,"hasPreviousPage":false,"startCursor":null}}},"User:user:219546":{"__typename":"User","id":"user:219546","uid":219546,"login":"Kyr0e","biography":null,"registrationData":{"__typename":"RegistrationData","status":null,"registrationTime":"2015-06-16T05:47:33.000+01:00","confirmEmailStatus":null,"registrationAccessLevel":null,"ssoRegistrationFields":[]},"deleted":false,"email":"","avatar":{"__typename":"UserAvatar","url":"https://forums.ea.com/t5/s/tghpe58374/m_assets/avatars/custom/sims_12-1720030322560.jpg"},"rank":{"__ref":"Rank:rank:10"},"messagesCount":-5,"kudosGivenCount":437,"kudosReceivedCount":443,"kudosWeight":1,"ssoId":null,"followersCount":null,"solutionsCount":0},"ModerationData:moderation_data:1181269":{"__typename":"ModerationData","id":"moderation_data:1181269","status":"APPROVED","rejectReason":null,"isReportedAbuse":false,"rejectUser":null,"rejectTime":null,"rejectActorType":null},"ForumReplyMessage:message:1181269":{"__typename":"ForumReplyMessage","author":{"__ref":"User:user:219546"},"id":"message:1181269","revisionNum":1,"uid":1181269,"depth":1,"hasGivenKudo":false,"subscribed":false,"board":{"__ref":"Forum:board:the-sims-4-general-discussion-en"},"parent":{"__ref":"ForumTopicMessage:message:1181231"},"conversation":{"__ref":"Conversation:conversation:1181231"},"subject":"Re: Is anyone else disappointed with the High Maintenance trait?","moderationData":{"__ref":"ModerationData:moderation_data:1181269"},"body":"Ah yes, the usual \"complain about someone else complaining/venting\" because one cannot be asked to simply complain about the overzealous devs.

There comes a point where one cannot feasibly keep trying to shut down/up those with qualms, just so there's no possibility the real root of the problem doesn't end up sending the issue to the Twilight Zone.","body@stripHtml({\"removeProcessingText\":false,\"removeSpoilerMarkup\":false,\"removeTocMarkup\":false,\"truncateLength\":200})@stringLength":"203","kudosSumWeight":1,"repliesCount":0,"postTime":"2021-09-09T23:19:22.000+01:00","lastPublishTime":"2021-09-09T23:19:22.000+01:00","metrics":{"__typename":"MessageMetrics","views":0},"visibilityScope":"PUBLIC","placeholder":false,"originalMessageForPlaceholder":null,"isEscalated":null,"solution":false,"replies":{"__typename":"MessageConnection","pageInfo":{"__typename":"PageInfo","hasNextPage":false,"endCursor":null,"hasPreviousPage":false,"startCursor":null},"edges":[]},"customFields":[],"attachments":{"__typename":"AttachmentConnection","edges":[],"pageInfo":{"__typename":"PageInfo","hasNextPage":false,"endCursor":null,"hasPreviousPage":false,"startCursor":null}}},"ModerationData:moderation_data:1181270":{"__typename":"ModerationData","id":"moderation_data:1181270","status":"APPROVED","rejectReason":null,"isReportedAbuse":false,"rejectUser":null,"rejectTime":null,"rejectActorType":null},"ForumReplyMessage:message:1181270":{"__typename":"ForumReplyMessage","author":{"__ref":"User:user:132104"},"id":"message:1181270","revisionNum":1,"uid":1181270,"depth":1,"hasGivenKudo":false,"subscribed":false,"board":{"__ref":"Forum:board:the-sims-4-general-discussion-en"},"parent":{"__ref":"ForumTopicMessage:message:1181231"},"conversation":{"__ref":"Conversation:conversation:1181231"},"subject":"Re: Is anyone else disappointed with the High Maintenance trait?","moderationData":{"__ref":"ModerationData:moderation_data:1181270"},"body":"
\"KyreRoen;c-17974786\" wrote:
Ah yes, the usual \"complain about someone else complaining/venting\" because one cannot be asked to simply complain about the overzealous devs.

There comes a point where one cannot feasibly keep trying to shut down/up those with qualms, just so there's no possibility the real root of the problem doesn't end up sending the issue to the Twilight Zone.


I don't think devs are to blame for players who can't handle any pushback from their game.","body@stripHtml({\"removeProcessingText\":false,\"removeSpoilerMarkup\":false,\"removeTocMarkup\":false,\"truncateLength\":200})@stringLength":"203","kudosSumWeight":1,"repliesCount":0,"postTime":"2021-09-10T00:17:28.000+01:00","lastPublishTime":"2021-09-10T00:17:28.000+01:00","metrics":{"__typename":"MessageMetrics","views":0},"visibilityScope":"PUBLIC","placeholder":false,"originalMessageForPlaceholder":null,"isEscalated":null,"solution":false,"replies":{"__typename":"MessageConnection","pageInfo":{"__typename":"PageInfo","hasNextPage":false,"endCursor":null,"hasPreviousPage":false,"startCursor":null},"edges":[]},"customFields":[],"attachments":{"__typename":"AttachmentConnection","edges":[],"pageInfo":{"__typename":"PageInfo","hasNextPage":false,"endCursor":null,"hasPreviousPage":false,"startCursor":null}}},"User:user:181847":{"__typename":"User","id":"user:181847","uid":181847,"login":"Lazzial","biography":null,"registrationData":{"__typename":"RegistrationData","status":null,"registrationTime":"2015-08-13T23:03:18.000+01:00","confirmEmailStatus":null,"registrationAccessLevel":null,"ssoRegistrationFields":[]},"deleted":false,"email":"","avatar":{"__typename":"UserAvatar","url":"https://forums.ea.com/t5/s/tghpe58374/m_assets/avatars/custom/sims_01-1720030033408.jpg"},"rank":{"__ref":"Rank:rank:10"},"messagesCount":-1,"kudosGivenCount":428,"kudosReceivedCount":428,"kudosWeight":1,"ssoId":null,"followersCount":null,"solutionsCount":0},"ModerationData:moderation_data:1181271":{"__typename":"ModerationData","id":"moderation_data:1181271","status":"APPROVED","rejectReason":null,"isReportedAbuse":false,"rejectUser":null,"rejectTime":null,"rejectActorType":null},"ForumReplyMessage:message:1181271":{"__typename":"ForumReplyMessage","author":{"__ref":"User:user:181847"},"id":"message:1181271","revisionNum":1,"uid":1181271,"depth":1,"hasGivenKudo":false,"subscribed":false,"board":{"__ref":"Forum:board:the-sims-4-general-discussion-en"},"parent":{"__ref":"ForumTopicMessage:message:1181231"},"conversation":{"__ref":"Conversation:conversation:1181231"},"subject":"Re: Is anyone else disappointed with the High Maintenance trait?","moderationData":{"__ref":"ModerationData:moderation_data:1181271"},"body":"No, I don't hate it. I actually love it more than anything. We need more crazy traits!!

There's plenty of boring traits to choose from like cheerful, outgoing or loves outdoors.","body@stripHtml({\"removeProcessingText\":false,\"removeSpoilerMarkup\":false,\"removeTocMarkup\":false,\"truncateLength\":200})@stringLength":"181","kudosSumWeight":1,"repliesCount":0,"postTime":"2021-09-10T00:28:38.000+01:00","lastPublishTime":"2021-09-10T00:28:38.000+01:00","metrics":{"__typename":"MessageMetrics","views":0},"visibilityScope":"PUBLIC","placeholder":false,"originalMessageForPlaceholder":null,"isEscalated":null,"solution":false,"replies":{"__typename":"MessageConnection","pageInfo":{"__typename":"PageInfo","hasNextPage":false,"endCursor":null,"hasPreviousPage":false,"startCursor":null},"edges":[]},"customFields":[],"attachments":{"__typename":"AttachmentConnection","edges":[],"pageInfo":{"__typename":"PageInfo","hasNextPage":false,"endCursor":null,"hasPreviousPage":false,"startCursor":null}}},"User:user:169118":{"__typename":"User","id":"user:169118","uid":169118,"login":"Bmm209","biography":null,"registrationData":{"__typename":"RegistrationData","status":null,"registrationTime":"2015-09-29T19:36:53.000+01:00","confirmEmailStatus":null,"registrationAccessLevel":null,"ssoRegistrationFields":[]},"deleted":false,"email":"","avatar":{"__typename":"UserAvatar","url":"https://forums.ea.com/t5/s/tghpe58374/m_assets/avatars/default/avatar-2.svg"},"rank":null,"messagesCount":0,"kudosGivenCount":1111,"kudosReceivedCount":1121,"kudosWeight":1,"ssoId":null,"followersCount":null,"solutionsCount":0},"ModerationData:moderation_data:1181272":{"__typename":"ModerationData","id":"moderation_data:1181272","status":"APPROVED","rejectReason":null,"isReportedAbuse":false,"rejectUser":null,"rejectTime":null,"rejectActorType":null},"ForumReplyMessage:message:1181272":{"__typename":"ForumReplyMessage","author":{"__ref":"User:user:169118"},"id":"message:1181272","revisionNum":1,"uid":1181272,"depth":1,"hasGivenKudo":false,"subscribed":false,"board":{"__ref":"Forum:board:the-sims-4-general-discussion-en"},"parent":{"__ref":"ForumTopicMessage:message:1181231"},"conversation":{"__ref":"Conversation:conversation:1181231"},"subject":"Re: Is anyone else disappointed with the High Maintenance trait?","moderationData":{"__ref":"ModerationData:moderation_data:1181272"},"body":"
\"Pamtastic72;c-17974815\" wrote:
\"KyreRoen;c-17974786\" wrote:
Ah yes, the usual \"complain about someone else complaining/venting\" because one cannot be asked to simply complain about the overzealous devs.

There comes a point where one cannot feasibly keep trying to shut down/up those with qualms, just so there's no possibility the real root of the problem doesn't end up sending the issue to the Twilight Zone.


I don't think devs are to blame for players who can't handle any pushback from their game.


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