It's official- No snow depth

I live in florida when it snowed more than 10 years ago in my area the city nearly shut down. There was white slush on the roads! We have hurricane days here.
I'm kind of hoping when you can make holidays.. you can do things like this and really hoping you can choose if your children don't go to school on those days.

I am not disappointed actually(I live in a country where snow dosen't exist so I didn't know a single thing about snow, I only learned some of them because of The Sims XD) because I would rather have a beautiful and gorgeous winter rather than have a ugly snow.

"loutredor;c-16502774" wrote:
Also @Zeldaboy180, I checked and Breath of the Wild does look like there is some depth to the snow. I've seen several pictures in which Link's feet sink in the snow. I don't know, correct me if I'm wrong. I haven't played in a while.

https://i.imgur.com/0DrqVjL.jpg

I think that screenshot is just from clipping into the Mountain, although I'm not entirely sure. Off the top of my head there are only a few places where the snow has a very deep depth, if at all.

"Dianesims;c-16502951" wrote:

"lulubadwolf;c-16502930" wrote:
Does this mean that we are not getting any "Snow day" ? Because it would be weird if the game tells you that there is too much snow to go to school/work if there is no snow depth ...

If we can have a blizzard with this little snow, which is even more weird, we'll probably have snow days too. Here I had "snow days" and 4cm of snow....this winter traffic was very disturbed with 5cm of snow, the Canadians laughed at us, and I can't really blame them.

Well, you laugh right back at those Canadians @Dianesims (I'm one of them) and I swear not one driver in this country remembers how to winter drive when the first snowfall hits here. It's incredible to watch.

"Zeldaboy180;c-16502961" wrote:

"loutredor;c-16502774" wrote:
Also @Zeldaboy180, I checked and Breath of the Wild does look like there is some depth to the snow. I've seen several pictures in which Link's feet sink in the snow. I don't know, correct me if I'm wrong. I haven't played in a while.

https://i.imgur.com/0DrqVjL.jpg

I think that screenshot is just from clipping into the Mountain, although I'm not entirely sure. Off the top of my head there are only a few places where the snow has a very deep depth, if at all.

He's clearly in a dip in the mountain side. There's a little ridge right behind his feet. It doesn't indicate his feet are deep in snow at all.

"loutredor;c-16502370" wrote:
I'm so glad they didn't wait 20 whole days before giving a definite answer.
This is still extremely disappointing though.

I am excited for this pack but I have to say, if their goal is for the game to be perceived as a very casual and simplistic game, they are heading in the right direction.

As others have said, they kept saying that "cats and dogs" was the best version of pets so far, yet they took away so many options for them. I am not even talking about the fact that there are two new types of pets only. But about the fact that they decided pets would never be controllable, would not have any info pannel... etc. Personnaly I never controlled my pets in TS2 and TS3, and it worked perfectly. It also worked perfectly for those who did control them. So I fail to see how keeping only one option out of those two was the best decision ever.

Maybe this iteration of Seasons will indeed be impressive on other aspects. But in my opinion that doesn't make up for the fact that there is no visually believable snow in the game.
As the fourth iteration, any improvement (foliage maybe changing more gradually, new gameplay brought by the thermostat system...) should have been ADDED to the important features that were there in the older games. Not replaced them.

I will buy the EP because it does seem interesting but I think my perception of the game and the esteem I had for it will never be the same after this iteration.

For many others it this expansion pack provides the best iteration of pets so far in the main sims game. I go with different social media like reddit and many people are saying that this was the best pets in the series. Yes there are two types of pets only, but there are a big new feature for the sims that expanded their option for the sims for their pets, and that is the vet career and the number of things you can discover with it.

Development wise it the making of them as uncontrollable pets was probably the best decision ever development wise. Supporting controllable and uncontrollable pets will take their resources. For example their behaviors. The behaviors of Cats and Dogs are the most realistic in the series imo. Because in three years(let's assume it was worked for three years) they focused on their behaviors. If they added controllable pets, that wouldn't be the same. In three years they will have to create behaviors, a slew of moodlets like sims 3, and behavior of cats and dogs while controlling them, The Sims 3 Pets did both and they was all shallow. They didn't focus on the pets behaviors but rather on making them controllable, and researching on how the controllable pets feature will be fun for its players. If they did it in Sims 4, a lot of tiny details with pets won't exist and I doubt cats will be able to jump on many surfaces. of course if you use a mod of controllable the pets are amazing and their behaviors won't change, that is because the devs spent their whole dev time in developing it and I doubt it will be that great if they added controllable pets.
About the info pannel that is my only gripe about the pack but I can live with it. This is the only feature that I don't think will take a way a huge number of resources for them.

"Dianesims;c-16502951" wrote:

"lulubadwolf;c-16502930" wrote:
Does this mean that we are not getting any "Snow day" ? Because it would be weird if the game tells you that there is too much snow to go to school/work if there is no snow depth ...

If we can have a blizzard with this little snow, which is even more weird, we'll probably have snow days too. Here I had "snow days" and 4cm of snow....this winter traffic was very disturbed with 5cm of snow, the Canadians laughed at us, and I can't really blame them.

I live in the mountain ( about 70 cm of snow ) and i yet still remember that day when we came back from school, our bus got stuck in the snow because they had stooped for too long in a parking lot, while they perfectly knew that it was going to be troublesome, so i can understand how a traffic can be disturbed if you are not used to snow.
But here there is no car, they walk to school and even if your not used, you can walk. You might just be late in fact :D

"Zeldaboy180;c-16502685" wrote:

"06Bon06;c-16502242" wrote:

"bixters;c-16502219" wrote:
That's rather disappointing. It's not a deal breaker for me, but I feel like they should have been able to do it. Is it really that difficult? I'll still buy it because it does look like a fun pack, and it looks like they did a good job in other areas.

My problem with this is they left out a new world just like in sims 3 to focus on other stuff. In sims 3 we got amazing weather, deep snow, dynamic weather. Now they left out snow and a world and what are we getting for essentially huge trade offs?

Okay, I don't know why you're saying there isn't snow, there is and it's beautiful.

https://i.gyazo.com/301ab2735f02dcc369b47ba9fad6bbd0.png

https://i.gyazo.com/9e04e6b65cdf126a461a032fff720aae.png


This snow looks absolutely beautiful to me, even if it is flat. It works with the sim's 4's art style.



And it doesn't seem too different from other games I play.



https://i2.wp.com/enterinitials.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/12/ACNLW.gif?resize=400%2C240

http://static.gosunoob.com/img/1/2017/03/Zelda-Breath-of-the-Wild-How-to-Surf-on-the-Shield-1024x576.jpg

https://nerdist.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/10/2017103010045900-8AEDFF741E2D23FBED39474178692DAF-615x346.jpg

https://i.ytimg.com/vi/t1BfE3Ld9uU/maxresdefault.jpg



If "flat" snow didn't bother me and still looked beautiful in all those games, it wouldn't bother me now.


As for the trade offs, we're getting Thermostats, Greenhouses, Swings, Designing our own custom holidays, scouts, sprinklers, kiddie pools, scarecrows, tree decorating, easter bunny, santa (father winter), bee keeping, flower arranging and botany skills and much more.

Sims 3 seasons didn't even come with greenhouses, you had to buy the extra store set for around $20-$40 dollars that conveniently released around the same time? Sounds like a my first pet stuff to me.

I agree it looks beautiful even if it is flat, it's still different to the normal green grass or whatever. I didnt really understand Guru Grants reasoning for not doing deep snow but I'm still going to love winter. It would have been nice to have our sims feet go through the snow but does that doesn't really matter to me, this expansion is going to change my game in so many ways and I think they've added a lot of new stuff.

"@BlueR0se;c-16502884" wrote:

"jackjack_k;c-16502867" wrote:

"@ichchen;c-16502206" wrote:
How often will this pattern repeat itself?

Something is missing and without the community pointing it out and debating about it EA probably wouldn´t tell us anything.

I will still buy this pack but it is definetely a dissapointment - once more...

It has always happened and always will happen.

If they never sacrificed anything, it would mean we would get the exact same packs every Sims game.

Sometimes they will sacrifice something in order to provide something new.

They’re choices may not always be ideal, but they’ve always made them.

Sims 3 Seasons ditched content that people loved from Sims 2, it happens.

This is true, but can't it also be said that this would be the ideal game to have multi-depth snow? Considering that there is no open worlds, it's easier on loading times+ computers and would probably run much more smoothly with limited individual "playing areas" then compared to Sims 3.

True, Grant said performance wasn't a factor, it just didn't look as visually pleasing when they experimented with it.

I can see what he means, some parts of TS3 seasons was just flat white everywhere and lots of details about the world were lost. '

It isn't affecting gameplay features, so I'm okay.

If we lost Snow gameplay, I would be mad.

"jackjack_k;c-16503030" wrote:

"@BlueR0se;c-16502884" wrote:

"jackjack_k;c-16502867" wrote:

"@ichchen;c-16502206" wrote:
How often will this pattern repeat itself?

Something is missing and without the community pointing it out and debating about it EA probably wouldn´t tell us anything.

I will still buy this pack but it is definetely a dissapointment - once more...

It has always happened and always will happen.

If they never sacrificed anything, it would mean we would get the exact same packs every Sims game.

Sometimes they will sacrifice something in order to provide something new.

They’re choices may not always be ideal, but they’ve always made them.

Sims 3 Seasons ditched content that people loved from Sims 2, it happens.

This is true, but can't it also be said that this would be the ideal game to have multi-depth snow? Considering that there is no open worlds, it's easier on loading times+ computers and would probably run much more smoothly with limited individual "playing areas" then compared to Sims 3.

True, Grant said performance wasn't a factor, it just didn't look as visually pleasing when they experimented with it.

I can see what he means, some parts of TS3 seasons was just flat white everywhere and lots of details about the world were lost. '

It isn't affecting gameplay features, so I'm okay.

If we lost Snow gameplay, I would be mad.

I agree there, and this is a personal preference so nobody is right or wrong, but I didn't like trying to do collections and not being able to find things buried under the snow. Poor small animals were completely covered!