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WolvesCreek
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5 years ago

Maxis going in wrong direction with expansion pack gameplay?

At first I was really excited for Snowy Escape mostly because of the setting/I grew up in Fernie, BC basically a ski resort town. Plus I love anime so it just works for me until I realized what lost opportunity it was.

Having literally re-installed the Sims 4 JUST for it, I found myself doing the same old gameplay I've always done in the Sims 4. By that I mean, skiing IS new - but just another athletic skill using new animations.

Even the "story packs" such as Star Wars and Strangerville are based on leveling/doing skill activities that already exist for the most part (like talking to sims with charisma skill).

Outside of the odd pack like exploring the jungle and the eco pack (literally changes the way you build) Snowy escape demonstrated Sims 4 packs are largely recycled gameplay with new names, paint and animations. The only real time we've gotten new gameplay or its changed the underlying game, is when they make packs based on OLD Sim packs (like university or seasons) but yet still cut back on content.

In contrast I would have LOVED if Snowy Escape actually let you MANAGE a sky hill, its slopes and allowed you to build resorts.

So for example manage ticket prices, get customer ratings, ect based on what slope difficulty and snow quality, are your slopes too icy? Ticket sales go down. Not only that but you'd be competing with neighboring ski slopes for business.

Don't want to manage, than compete to enter ski events or become a ski bum, get a job running at the mountain as an instructor, for safety or running the lifts. Or become a hermit on the backside of the hill in an off the grid house. So many options missed....

While I love "japan town" I would have loved it more if instead of a new neighborhood, it was a HUGE mountain to allow for all this, with multiple ski resort lots and lots for hotels ect at the bottom.

Not only that but it WOULD have two seasons (or 4 if u had seasons) which allowed for winter activities and summer activities - heck maybe even a summer camps to keep business up during the summer. YES SUMMER CAMPS. Send your kids or be a camp counceller.

I just realized that Snowy Escape could have been so much more than just a new neighborhood to level up skills and I think its because the Maxis teams have been stuck in a grove how they design Sims 4 packs - a range of activities based on skill advancement but not a new type of game play outside of really Eco living.

What do you think?

57 Replies

  • "keekee53;c-17762163" wrote:
    Well I am just going to put it out there...

    They had a survey that asked about snow sports and clearly people gave it high marks so they created the pack. It is hard to blame them for the theme of the pack.


    Well of course I can blame them, because the snow sports should have been in a Seasons pack just like most of those type things were in the previous Seasons' packs and so selling less for more seems to be the way this game survives. It isn't hard at all to blame Maxis for milking. After six years I'm tired of the whining of how they don't have enough money or time or whatever new excuse. They made a billion over two years ago...so breaking down what is normally in most major packs just to sell it for another $40 isn't because they don't have the money, it's called greed.
  • "keekee53;c-17762163" wrote:
    Well I am just going to put it out there...

    They had a survey that asked about snow sports and clearly people gave it high marks so they created the pack. It is hard to blame them for the theme of the pack.


    My issue is that they made it $40. It should have been a $20 Game Pack. I have no issues with the content, but it's just not enough content for a $40 Expansion Pack. It was barely any different from Jungle Adventure, which was also $20.
  • keekee53's avatar
    keekee53
    Seasoned Newcomer
    5 years ago
    Let me clear again...

    The "theme" of the pack was chosen by the people. So it is hard to blame them for the "theme" of the pack. While I agree there was not enough content to justify 40 bucks, people still wanted snow sports in the game knowing seasons had already been released.

    As for the snow sport survey, it was the survey that addressed some of the gameplay wants(meaningful sim relationships) so I wouldn't say they are completely pointless. I am sure we got the lifestyle and sentiments system based on that survey even though the systems are poorly executed in my opinion.
  • But I don't think its the teams fault. Its EA giving a super limited budget for a game that makes up most of its income.
  • I liked Snowy Escape and the new Lifestyles, but I agree, they really could had done so much more. Even small things like having an freelance career for the new skills, and made the scenery clickable (even rabbit holes would had been better than all of this beautiful but EMPTY space...). Also liked the ideas with managing an skiresort.
  • "keekee53;c-17762836" wrote:
    Let me clear again...

    The "theme" of the pack was chosen by the people. So it is hard to blame them for the "theme" of the pack. While I agree there was not enough content to justify 40 bucks, people still wanted snow sports in the game knowing seasons had already been released.

    As for the snow sport survey, it was the survey that addressed some of the gameplay wants(meaningful sim relationships) so I wouldn't say they are completely pointless. I am sure we got the lifestyle and sentiments system based on that survey even though the systems are poorly executed in my opinion.


    They also have been putting out a survey asking simmer whether simmer want them to revisit the old pack and improve on it, after putting out a survey like this giving they can in a way add most of the snowy escape features to seasons, and no its not called being entitled because they themselves have offered survey like this. Snowy escape could be another pack with entirely different theme.
  • even do as a player of the sims 4 am happy with the pack as they are i do feel that some useful content lacks especially if you went to create a retro style home for your sims or modern in term of furniture and appliances retro and modern