So, you spend influence to vote in an initiative that... rewards you with influence if you use certain skills... so you can vote for another initiative that gives you influence.There's a handful that actually do something different. There's: One that fines you for using electricity, with no upside One that does the same, except with water. No upside in sight. One that makes townies wear paper bags, with no upside One that fines you for woohooing and using appliances, but also gives you (quelle surprise) influence points One that makes it so you can woohoo anyone without jealousy, even though jealousy barely exists in this game One that turns everyone into a kleptomaniac Three that change the decor in Evergreen Harbor, even though the garbage is the only thing that gives this town any personalityCome on modders, give us something useful to spend those influence points on!Because right now, this is a terrible, terrible system that I will never use.

They are also a buggy spammy mess. NAPS are by far the worst implementation of a feature in all of Sims 4! The developers need to work hard on completely fixing the disastrous way most of them play out.

It is as useless as it sounds. I was unimpressed before and now I have have played it, yea it is boring mess.

What I found is the NPC voting seems to favour the green items. Now with rubbish gone, Evergreen Harbour is now more like an extension of Willow Creek! ? .I had to greet lots of people to gain enough influence to get the paper bag N.A.P. through on the next vote. My Sims were exhausted by the end! ?

I am enjoying EL but NAPS are one of my least liked features.It was fun at first, and some NAPs are pretty good (like Green Initiatives or Modern Development), but the activity ones are spammy and annoying. My sims could not enjoy a meal last night because a fight occurred every two minutes. I also thought they were replaced, but you have to repeal one before you can change one. I feel like my neighbourhood is stuck with 4 NAPs. Any tips on this would be appreciated.

"ParmaViolet87;c-17535016" wrote:I am enjoying EL but NAPS are one of my least liked features.It was fun at first, and some NAPs are pretty good (like Green Initiatives or Modern Development), but the activity ones are spammy and annoying. My sims could not enjoy a meal last night because a fight occurred every two minutes. I also thought they were replaced, but you have to repeal one before you can change one. I feel like my neighbourhood is stuck with 4 NAPs. Any tips on this would be appreciated. I guess we could just add the 4 NAPs we find least annoying until someone mods them. :joy: You can shift click on the mailbox to instantly repeal or enforce any NAP.

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mlnov39
Seasoned Spectator
5 years ago
How can I get rid of paper bags? They're so annoying!
logionX
Seasoned Hotshot
5 years ago
One thing that I don't like are how NAPs are making all sims seem less unique. I spent a lot of time giving my sims unique skills and personalities and now when I am not playing them they are all behaving the same according to which NAP which are active.
Simmerville
Seasoned Ace
5 years ago
I ticked off the two options because a sim was constantly practicing on data, telling fake news or playing with clay. With both unchecked, he still does these annoying things. Should it not stop him? I'm playing with free will off at the moment, but they still get up and walk far to say use a computer.

Did we not hear from any guru about whether they are working on a patch? It's totally game breaking, I think there should be some info...
EnkiSchmidt
Hero
5 years ago
@Simmerville are you sure your simvasion mods (https://simvasion.wordpress.com/portfolio/nap-autonomy-fixes/) are up to date? He fixed the autonomy intruding into free will off saves problem in an update.

I enjoy the NAPs just fine, but the voting could pose more of a challenge. My newest household of castaways had no contact to other sims early on, so little opportunity to earn votes and thus the first week in Sharing is Caring was voted into effect. That made socialisation tricky, because visitors would attempt to pick clean the lot. So far, so nice (not meant sarcastic), but the second week my household managed to make Self reliance win and from there on their influence points skyrocketed. Once you have the first NAP in that aligns with your household's everyday activities their ability to control their district snowballs.
Sharooonia
New Spectator
5 years ago
I agree 100%...

They are boring and feel rather pointless. I've turned off voting and have completely lost interest in the whole system. The N.A.P's are either really obnoxious or really pointless. There is no middle ground or interesting ones that make me want to put effort into activating them.
RouenSims
Seasoned Traveler
5 years ago
There is an updated version (6-17-20) of Civic Policy Tweaks that solved my NAP issues! Finally my Sims can finish their showers, meals, and books again!
https://simvasion.wordpress.com/portfolio/nap-autonomy-fixes/
Simmerville
Seasoned Ace
5 years ago
"EnkiSchmidt;c-17565882" wrote:
@Simmerville are you sure your simvasion mods (https://simvasion.wordpress.com/portfolio/nap-autonomy-fixes/) are up to date? He fixed the autonomy intruding into free will off saves problem in an update.

I enjoy the NAPs just fine, but the voting could pose more of a challenge. My newest household of castaways had no contact to other sims early on, so little opportunity to earn votes and thus the first week in Sharing is Caring was voted into effect. That made socialisation tricky, because visitors would attempt to pick clean the lot. So far, so nice (not meant sarcastic), but the second week my household managed to make Self reliance win and from there on their influence points skyrocketed. Once you have the first NAP in that aligns with your household's everyday activities their ability to control their district snowballs.

Thanks! I see that I already had the civic-something mod, but was not sure what it was there for. I'll grab the updated version and other mods, too if needed. Can't make videos when all non-free-will "actors" walk about to do these silly actions.
EgonVM
Seasoned Ace
5 years ago
Well, for me, they are scary, as Sharing is Caring may get enacted. Oh, and Back to Old Times and Free Love and Power/Water Conservation.
KHS12
5 years ago
I was excited for the NAP concept and that was one of the reasons regarding gameplay and not just decor that pushed me towards getting the pack. I've got all 3 neighborhoods under the "Free Love" NAP and nothing happens with my current household. Whichever household I'm in, they just get to sit back and watch rando townies participate. I've tested this in 5 households so far, and nothing ever happens. Same goes for juiced community. They're pretty fruitless.
Bearpal64
5 years ago
Water Conservation is one I don't quite understand. The water gets shut off so I can't use anything water related. Showers or baths, washing dishes etc. So if I can't use water.... How is my next bill telling me I'm penalized for overusing water? Not that bills are high currently. But still!