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Zmias1
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4 years ago

New Asian Eye Presets in Latest Patch

Hello all:

Not sure if this was already brought up as I didn't see it in the topic section, but the most recent patch added a lot of new Asian Eye Presets in the CAS section. Considering no one has asked for it, it was surprising to see it. Though I usually welcome any additions adding variety to the game.

However, what made this addition a little puzzling is that the majority of the eye presets in CAS are already Asian oriented. Which I do not mind except what really need is more of a variety of eye presets for other ethnicities too including European, Island, and African types, lol.

Though I do like SOME of the Asian eye presets, I find that only two were decent enough to use without any tweaking as opposed to rest.

The rest of these new Asian presets just look unrealistically ugly or odd, cartoonish, (IMO) somewhat stereotypically insulting, and completely useless for those of us who like to create sims that look as real as possible without the use of MODS.

Did anyone else have a chance to look through them in CAS? If so, what did you think? I always applaud EA when they try offer up more choices with things in the Sims 4 game. But this one totally missed the mark for me is all I'm saying. Hopefully, they'll do better in the future. <3

edited for clarity, lol.
  • "MsKatieRose;c-17892749" wrote:
    "greydonn;c-17892534" wrote:
    I think the eyes look wonderful and I can't wait to use them, but I'm waiting until the next patch with Likes and Dislikes and the hair colors before I make any new sims. :smile:


    Just curious, where did you hear that new hair colors was on the way?


    I've read many forum posts that said that the hair colors are coming in the same patch as the one bringing likes and dislikes. It should be this Thursday.
  • Isharell's avatar
    Isharell
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    I appreciate any new content. I liked the new eyes. I haven't used them yet (unless they were the eyes that appeared on the random sim I created over the weekend). But @CAPTAIN_NXR7 is 100% right, it's more than just the eyes, you have to work on the whole shape of the face to make it work. You can slam any bits of face together to create a cartoon. To shift those parts to make a particular beautiful/ugly/unusual sim can take patience and artistry. I love this aspect of creating a sim.

    When I create new sims I go back and forth between making minor tweaks on whatever random sim appears, to taking hours to fiddle with the face shapes, eyes, cheekbones, chins, etc. When I click on a new face part some of the changes are subtle, some are almost startling. Once I find a look that seems likely I dive in and start tweaking. It's kind of like building, in a way, only instead of building a house, you are creating a sim. Hmm, maybe I should say it can be more like sculpting, when it's the face.

    And don't get me started on the hair. The right hair for my sim is very important. I have changed some sims hair at least a dozen times.

    I've recently realized a lot of my female sims look very similar, I think I instinctively click on one or two of the random face types and go from there. I've just started to choose other faces and am going to be working toward making my simmies more unique.
  • Fair enough, I know I'm not going to try to make you like something you're obviously not fond of, but could you still tell us which eyes you have problems with?
  • Zmias1's avatar
    Zmias1
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    "Dianesims;c-17881470" wrote:
    Well these for instance are a bit odd :

    https://i.imgur.com/cgyJcCj.png

    "MsKatieRose;c-17881209" wrote:
    "Dianesims;c-17881010" wrote:
    Ok I just made these two sims using the new eyes but I tweaked them a little bit.

    https://i.imgur.com/TOREBaW.png
    https://i.imgur.com/x7pB00L.png


    Nice job. But you picked the few new eye presets that are fine as it is. It's the majority of the new ones that came with the latest patch that would take a lot more tweaking and some you can't at all. Those are the ones I am referring to.




    Nah, it's some way worst than these, lol! Like you can't even tweak them.

    "Jyotai;c-17881560" wrote:
    "MsKatieRose;c-17881146" wrote:
    "ClarionOfJoy;c-17880630" wrote:

    I've always found that the Asian modders to do a better job at making Asian sims look more realistic Asian so you might want to look into them.


    Yeah, it's too bad they didn't have the modders help design these Asian eye presets. Maybe, they'll consider it in the future.


    I'm kinda glad they didn't.

    This preset was yes, about self-representation for me as well.

    But if those modders had done it, they'd be too realistic and out of step with the existing theme of the game. All those 'Alpha' modders are great, but if you down that route you need a full replace of everything or it ends up too inconsistent. When you do it with a body feature like eyes especially - I would find that very jarring.


    Not really. Especially if you consider the contributions of some Ytubers and other outside designers who participated in designing the new eye presets along with other new items with their anniversary patch. Those came out good and in step with the rest of the game.

    "Jyotai;c-17881560" wrote:
    "MsKatieRose;c-17881146" wrote:
    "ClarionOfJoy;c-17880630" wrote:

    I've always found that the Asian modders to do a better job at making Asian sims look more realistic Asian so you might want to look into them.


    Yeah, it's too bad they didn't have the modders help design these Asian eye presets. Maybe, they'll consider it in the future.


    I'm kinda glad they didn't.

    This preset was yes, about self-representation for me as well.

    But if those modders had done it, they'd be too realistic and out of step with the existing theme of the game. All those 'Alpha' modders are great, but if you down that route you need a full replace of everything or it ends up too inconsistent. When you do it with a body feature like eyes especially - I would find that very jarring.


    I'm confused, do you use eye preset mods or not? If so, why keep them if you find them out of step with the game or cartoony, lol?
  • Zmias1's avatar
    Zmias1
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    "Dianesims;c-17882853" wrote:
    Well maybe show us which ones you mean ?

    "MsKatieRose;c-17881821" wrote:
    "Dianesims;c-17881470" wrote:
    Well these for instance are a bit odd :

    https://i.imgur.com/cgyJcCj.png

    "MsKatieRose;c-17881209" wrote:
    "Dianesims;c-17881010" wrote:
    Ok I just made these two sims using the new eyes but I tweaked them a little bit.

    https://i.imgur.com/TOREBaW.png
    https://i.imgur.com/x7pB00L.png


    Nice job. But you picked the few new eye presets that are fine as it is. It's the majority of the new ones that came with the latest patch that would take a lot more tweaking and some you can't at all. Those are the ones I am referring to.




    Nah, it's some way worst than these, lol! Like you can't even tweak them.




    Unless you show me how, I don't know how to attach the picture here or I would have put it in my original post, lol. Maybe, you can find it. IDK, there's one that looks really bad if you scroll down under the new Asian preset "eyes". I think it's on the right side column, midway down and the entire eye is wavy and cartoonish looking. If you can't find it. That's ok. I think eventually you will and know exactly what I'm referring to, lol.
  • Zmias1's avatar
    Zmias1
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    "Dianesims;c-17882869" wrote:
    There’s a tutorial here on how to post a picture, I use Imgur too.

    https://forums.thesims.com/en_US/discussion/830602/tutorial-how-to-upload-pictures-to-this-forum/p1

    "MsKatieRose;c-17882860" wrote:
    "Dianesims;c-17882853" wrote:
    Well maybe show us which ones you mean ?

    "MsKatieRose;c-17881821" wrote:
    "Dianesims;c-17881470" wrote:
    Well these for instance are a bit odd :

    https://i.imgur.com/cgyJcCj.png

    "MsKatieRose;c-17881209" wrote:
    "Dianesims;c-17881010" wrote:
    Ok I just made these two sims using the new eyes but I tweaked them a little bit.

    https://i.imgur.com/TOREBaW.png
    https://i.imgur.com/x7pB00L.png


    Nice job. But you picked the few new eye presets that are fine as it is. It's the majority of the new ones that came with the latest patch that would take a lot more tweaking and some you can't at all. Those are the ones I am referring to.




    Nah, it's some way worst than these, lol! Like you can't even tweak them.




    Unless you show me how, I don't know how to attach the picture here or I would have put it in my original post, lol. Maybe, you can find it. IDK, there's one that looks really bad if you scroll down under the new Asian preset "eyes". I think it's on the right side column, midway down and the entire eye is wavy and cartoonish looking. If you can't find it. That's ok. I think eventually you will and know exactly what I'm referring to, lol.




    Thanks, I'll check it out!
  • Zmias1's avatar
    Zmias1
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    "greydonn;c-17892534" wrote:
    I think the eyes look wonderful and I can't wait to use them, but I'm waiting until the next patch with Likes and Dislikes and the hair colors before I make any new sims. :smile:


    Just curious, where did you hear that new hair colors was on the way?
  • Zmias1's avatar
    Zmias1
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    "Isharell;c-17893294" wrote:
    I appreciate any new content. I liked the new eyes. I haven't used them yet (unless they were the eyes that appeared on the random sim I created over the weekend). But @CAPTAIN_NXR7 is 100% right, it's more than just the eyes, you have to work on the whole shape of the face to make it work. You can slam any bits of face together to create a cartoon. To shift those parts to make a particular beautiful/ugly/unusual sim can take patience and artistry. I love this aspect of creating a sim.

    When I create new sims I go back and forth between making minor tweaks on whatever random sim appears, to taking hours to fiddle with the face shapes, eyes, cheekbones, chins, etc. When I click on a new face part some of the changes are subtle, some are almost startling. Once I find a look that seems likely I dive in and start tweaking. It's kind of like building, in a way, only instead of building a house, you are creating a sim. Hmm, maybe I should say it can be more like sculpting, when it's the face.

    And don't get me started on the hair. The right hair for my sim is very important. I have changed some sims hair at least a dozen times.

    I've recently realized a lot of my female sims look very similar, I think I instinctively click on one or two of the random face types and go from there. I've just started to choose other faces and am going to be working toward making my simmies more unique.


    I know exactly how to work with presets and rather enjoy all the sims I have created. But I have to 100% disagree with you and the other poster on that and stand by my critique of the new Asian presets. If you disagree, then have fun with figuring out how to work with them, lol. I will not be working with the ones I don't like. Accept it and move on. Cheers....

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