New Pronoun Options Please

"simmerLella;c-17065768" wrote:

"BloodValkyrie;c-17023839" wrote:
This sounds like a bad idea. A very bad idea. It would be nearly impossible to do, and it would only be something to satisfy a tiny minority of players. Which means it's not worth the trouble, cost-wise and time-wise. Also, I'm wondering what happens if people play the "where's my representation" game. I've seen people literally, seriously, claim that autism is their gender, even though that's just not what autism is. What if those people start demanding representation? Should they be catered to? I'm VERY pro LGBT but sometimes you have to be realistic.

Are you 100% sure people weren't joking about autism being a gender? That's highly offensive to autistic people, and badly misrepresents true autistic people. :frowning: (Makes them look bad, or could if anyone believed that silliness.)

Anyway, I'd prefer to view that pronouns represent sex, not gender. Sims only have two sexes, so they're simpler to "deal" with. Sim babies are born male or female, and we casually use "boy" or "girl" instead of formal "male" or "female," not necessarily trying to force a gender, just being casual/cute with it. Babies are born with physical parts or certain coding and parents or players project gender onto them. Worrying about pronouns as gender words instead of sex words causes more upset than it could. (Though I know it's based on PRIVATE parts, and society wants it very public, which can be uncomfortable.)

I know that people don't see it that way but perhaps that's the switch that would actually catch on/work? Well, "they" is popular in a different way. People use "they" a lot anyway, but unfortunately it's to lazily refer to anyone, including girly-girls and macho men, haha. That taints it some for me, and TS4 already does that sometimes, right?

"She" isn't an insult :flushed: but if someone with female parts prefers "he" or "they," but "they" isn't an option, at least that person can fall back on "he" until this thing is sorted out (which might be tricky to set up in game though).

The Sims 4 isn't that new. It's already established. Like it or not, it's kind of older than when this movement got popular. People think of it as current, but that'll change. Sadly, "live service" can only bring so much. There are a lot of things people want from TS4, and deserve from The Sims, that may not be possible with TS4. :frowning:

Please do request a framework that will comfortably allow this with TS5. :smiley: I'd prefer custom pronouns though, as lazy (sometimes ignorant) people already ruined "they" for me, sadly. I'm in the minority though, most people love "they" (for anyone though, I warn you, haha).

I can never know 100% if people are joking or not these days. I only vaguely remember that so-called autism-gender person had some profile on a site, maybe tumblr, and seemed very sensitive to criticism. Wish I had a link. I've also seen people pretend to be transgender just for attention. Seriously. As in, actual trans people have pointed them out and said, "Is this a joke?" But who am I to judge what people say they are? If you want to say you're a fruitcake then fine. I'll disagree, but I won't stop you from calling yourself a fruitcake. Freedom of Speech is a major thing in my country. I want to protect the right to say whatever for everyone, even those that seem hateful. If not, then the censorship will eventually come for me, because hateful is a subjective term.

As for the Sims in general, I still think trying to implement custom pronouns wouldn't be a wise idea, at least as far as money and time goes. But if it's implemented, I hope it will be 100% optional. No NPCs with randomly generated pronouns please.