Open Neighborhood Rather than Open World

"FloppyFish;c-16025534" wrote:

"aricarai;c-16025529" wrote:

"FloppyFish;c-16025427" wrote:
I think a Semi Open world would be a good compromise. It wouldn't cause as many bugs and issues, and wouldn't make the game as laggy. Plus, lots wouldn't be as empty, since each hood (4 or 5 lots) would just be filled with sims. And then there could be still near areas to explore outside of the lots.

I think it needs to be bigger than that! There needs to be more potential for customisation and building without having to bulldoze lots. I think a lot of Simmers would want to build their towns up, not have to tear them down and start over every time they want to add something new.

Maybe 10 lots per hood? And have like, 3 or 4 hoods?

Are you using the term 'hoods' as in world, like San Myshuno, Oasis Springs, etc are hoods?

I think there needs to be more than that. If you look at Sunset Valley, there's 92 lots to play with; compared to say Willow Creek which has 25 and Forgotten Hollow which has 5. There's got to be some middle ground somewhere.

"aricarai;c-16025562" wrote:


Are you using the term 'hoods' as in world, like San Myshuno, Oasis Springs, etc are hoods?

I think there needs to be more than that. If you look at Sunset Valley, there's 92 lots to play with; compared to say Willow Creek which has 25 and Forgotten Hollow which has 5. There's got to be some middle ground somewhere.

I think in 4 hoods refers to each area within a world. So a group of 5 houses and the open space around them is a hood. That's one thing I don't understand though, why they gave us both closed and small worlds. If we have loading screens between everything then surely the worlds could have been the size of sims 3 worlds, or at least half the size. I know we can now travel between all the worlds so in the long run we will probably have access to more lots but I still would rather each world was a decent size.

"samlyt22;c-16025584" wrote:

"aricarai;c-16025562" wrote:


Are you using the term 'hoods' as in world, like San Myshuno, Oasis Springs, etc are hoods?

I think there needs to be more than that. If you look at Sunset Valley, there's 92 lots to play with; compared to say Willow Creek which has 25 and Forgotten Hollow which has 5. There's got to be some middle ground somewhere.

I think in 4 hoods refers to each area within a world. So a group of 5 houses and the open space around them is a hood. That's one thing I don't understand though, why they gave us both closed and small worlds. If we have loading screens between everything then surely the worlds could have been the size of sims 3 worlds, or at least half the size. I know we can now travel between all the worlds so in the long run we will probably have access to more lots but I still would rather each world was a decent size.

Oh right, I see. Thank you for explaining that.

So technically, you could have 5 houses that are like the affluent area and then 5 houses clustered together that are a little more run down?

I still think it would need to be bigger than that. Yes, it's cool that you can travel between all the worlds and that's a feature that I'd like to see carried over, but I still think the worlds should be bigger!

"aricarai;c-16025562" wrote:

"FloppyFish;c-16025534" wrote:

"aricarai;c-16025529" wrote:

"FloppyFish;c-16025427" wrote:
I think a Semi Open world would be a good compromise. It wouldn't cause as many bugs and issues, and wouldn't make the game as laggy. Plus, lots wouldn't be as empty, since each hood (4 or 5 lots) would just be filled with sims. And then there could be still near areas to explore outside of the lots.

I think it needs to be bigger than that! There needs to be more potential for customisation and building without having to bulldoze lots. I think a lot of Simmers would want to build their towns up, not have to tear them down and start over every time they want to add something new.

Maybe 10 lots per hood? And have like, 3 or 4 hoods?

Are you using the term 'hoods' as in world, like San Myshuno, Oasis Springs, etc are hoods?

I think there needs to be more than that. If you look at Sunset Valley, there's 92 lots to play with; compared to say Willow Creek which has 25 and Forgotten Hollow which has 5. There's got to be some middle ground somewhere.

I agree. I think that if you had around 25 to 30 open lots then players would be happy with that especially if they where community lots.

In deed Sunset Valley has more than twice the amount of lots that both TS4 'worlds' shipped with in the base game

"aricarai;c-16025332" wrote:

"catitude5;c-16024247" wrote:

"aricarai;c-16022224" wrote:
I love Open World, so that's where my vote goes. Now for the people are saying they don't want open world because of lag, error 12, poor optimisation, I don't think anyone wants that. Try imagining an open world without all of those things and then rethink the question.

I don't get this whole white space argument *scratches head* I'm currently in game at in the University world and most everywhere I can see, my Sim can get there.

Yeah, if I could have open world without error 12, it would be great. But I don't know if it's possible. I would like a much larger world than they are giving us, something the size of Beach City in Sims3.

I would think that this day in age, it SHOULD be possible. TS3 was too technologically advanced for computers and both of moved on since 2009. EA just needs to tap into it!

What is this Beach City you speak of it? Is it a player made world?

I'm not sure what you mean by TS3 being too technologically advanced for computers? Way back in 2009? Maybe some computers, maybe some laptops? Not all. I never had problems on any of the desktop PC's I played on (and still don't) unless there are problems like some routing errors or other glitches that seem to be in certain worlds and those errors are on EA not my PC.

"nickibitsward;c-16026575" wrote:

"aricarai;c-16025332" wrote:

"catitude5;c-16024247" wrote:

"aricarai;c-16022224" wrote:
I love Open World, so that's where my vote goes. Now for the people are saying they don't want open world because of lag, error 12, poor optimisation, I don't think anyone wants that. Try imagining an open world without all of those things and then rethink the question.

I don't get this whole white space argument *scratches head* I'm currently in game at in the University world and most everywhere I can see, my Sim can get there.

Yeah, if I could have open world without error 12, it would be great. But I don't know if it's possible. I would like a much larger world than they are giving us, something the size of Beach City in Sims3.

I would think that this day in age, it SHOULD be possible. TS3 was too technologically advanced for computers and both of moved on since 2009. EA just needs to tap into it!

What is this Beach City you speak of it? Is it a player made world?

I'm not sure what you mean by TS3 being too technologically advanced for computers? Way back in 2009? Maybe some computers, maybe some laptops? Not all. I never had problems on any of the desktop PC's I played on (and still don't) unless there are problems like some routing errors or other glitches that seem to be in certain worlds and those errors are on EA not my PC.

I meant that TS3 was way ahead of its time. You're right, maybe not the computers but the game not being properly optimised. TS3 was very ambitious I think.

"aricarai;c-16026833" wrote:

"nickibitsward;c-16026575" wrote:

"aricarai;c-16025332" wrote:

"catitude5;c-16024247" wrote:

"aricarai;c-16022224" wrote:
I love Open World, so that's where my vote goes. Now for the people are saying they don't want open world because of lag, error 12, poor optimisation, I don't think anyone wants that. Try imagining an open world without all of those things and then rethink the question.

I don't get this whole white space argument *scratches head* I'm currently in game at in the University world and most everywhere I can see, my Sim can get there.

Yeah, if I could have open world without error 12, it would be great. But I don't know if it's possible. I would like a much larger world than they are giving us, something the size of Beach City in Sims3.

I would think that this day in age, it SHOULD be possible. TS3 was too technologically advanced for computers and both of moved on since 2009. EA just needs to tap into it!

What is this Beach City you speak of it? Is it a player made world?

I'm not sure what you mean by TS3 being too technologically advanced for computers? Way back in 2009? Maybe some computers, maybe some laptops? Not all. I never had problems on any of the desktop PC's I played on (and still don't) unless there are problems like some routing errors or other glitches that seem to be in certain worlds and those errors are on EA not my PC.

I meant that TS3 was way ahead of its time. You're right, maybe not the computers but the game not being properly optimised. TS3 was very ambitious I think.

I'd hate to think it was too ambitious! I wish they had done it better. And carried it on through into Sims 4.

Would liked open neighborhood too or divided residential and commercial lots, because honestly annoying to have to load every time you visit neighbors. Completely kill any neighborhood immersion of neighbors asking to join your pool party, or coming over to grill with you etc. Annoying you have to constantly invite or do events to do simple things.

I really dislike the open world in TS4. All of the neighbourhoods seem so disconnected to eachother and there is no continuation of the Sims at home if one leaves the house.
I personally would like an open world in TS3, but when you want to go to a different lot in Live mode, you get a loading screen. I think this could be a good compromise, because you would still kind of have an open world feeling, but still better performance since not all of te homes have to be filled. If this can't be possible then I would really like a full open neighbourhood without loading screen like the OP.
I hate how the world maps look in TS4 btw. It's all just stupid drawings (we can't even see our terrain paint on the lots in the map) and the one from TS3 looked way better, because it seemed like an actual overview of the town.

"nickibitsward;c-16028219" wrote:

"aricarai;c-16026833" wrote:

"nickibitsward;c-16026575" wrote:

"aricarai;c-16025332" wrote:

"catitude5;c-16024247" wrote:

"aricarai;c-16022224" wrote:
I love Open World, so that's where my vote goes. Now for the people are saying they don't want open world because of lag, error 12, poor optimisation, I don't think anyone wants that. Try imagining an open world without all of those things and then rethink the question.

I don't get this whole white space argument *scratches head* I'm currently in game at in the University world and most everywhere I can see, my Sim can get there.

Yeah, if I could have open world without error 12, it would be great. But I don't know if it's possible. I would like a much larger world than they are giving us, something the size of Beach City in Sims3.

I would think that this day in age, it SHOULD be possible. TS3 was too technologically advanced for computers and both of moved on since 2009. EA just needs to tap into it!

What is this Beach City you speak of it? Is it a player made world?

I'm not sure what you mean by TS3 being too technologically advanced for computers? Way back in 2009? Maybe some computers, maybe some laptops? Not all. I never had problems on any of the desktop PC's I played on (and still don't) unless there are problems like some routing errors or other glitches that seem to be in certain worlds and those errors are on EA not my PC.

I meant that TS3 was way ahead of its time. You're right, maybe not the computers but the game not being properly optimised. TS3 was very ambitious I think.

I'd hate to think it was too ambitious! I wish they had done it better. And carried it on through into Sims 4.

@nickibitsward

You don't think CASt, CAW, and Open World were ambitious?