10 years ago

sims 4 CAW, how it gonna work

ok here a post trying to explain how really work a CAW in sims 4 and what is and what is not possible.

i'm creating this thread since look some peoples still don't know how the "worlds work in sims 4" here willow creek map
https://uploaddeimagens.com.br/images/000/501/631/full/fqJBIY9.png?1441394222
currently the sims 4 worlds are actually the neighborhoods, willow creeek is only a city "because maxis make it's look like it" but actually is not really a world when compared to sims 2 or sims 3

sims 4 use a different system from previous games, in order to make the game load "more soft" an less things they decided to make "small worlds" the neighborhoods and using a 2d simple map they make all the worlds looks like "attached" and part of the same place while they not really are.
this make the game more "soft" and be able to run on the potatoes machines
http://new3.fjcdn.com/thumbnails/comments/But+can+they+download+more+ram+inb4+i+d+ram+_8f31efbb7233c69cd6220dbc545296a8.jpg :p ;)
then that is why is hard to make a "create a world" in sims 4 because the world as peoples want don't exist in game each neighborhood is a sepparated file loaded in game, then what you can get is a "create a hood" tool, to create hoods, however again due to the very simpleton and limited way to make the "hoods" you actually don't have a real map of that what you have is a "fake" 2d map where the lots which you put in your hoods/worlds are loaded in that 2dmap, then the tool also gonna need allow you create a "fake 2d" map which can be made from dummies or 8 years old childs then in that map you put links to the "lots" if your created hoods.

is a little complicated but i will try to sound less complicated

how it's gonna work
step 1 - create the tiny worlds you want to be linked in the blanket map
that little maps will be saved in a paste with the name of the whole world something like:
directory paste willow creek
willow creek hood map 1
willow creek hood map 2
willow creek hood map 3

then you will create a 2d paintbrush map where you will pint point the position of each willow creek hood map on that map, then when you click in a hoood on that paintbrush map the "world will be loaded".

that is how a caw will be in sims 4 you not gonna be really creating a world like what peoples are asking but will be little worlds connected throught a paintbrush 2d map and no matter how you want the world looks "connected not gonna be possible unless you make bilboards which match exactly each hood look but since is a bilboard background if anyone edit the hood and change the houses then the background no more gonna match the in game look.

that is what peoples gonna get for a caw, unless "maxis" decide "cof, cof"(impossible) "expende more money and more work and redo the game maps" which we allready know is "too difficult and expensive".

ChaosKitten666
10 years ago
Willow Creek is the world and the separate areas are neighbourhoods within that world.

I don't really know how a CAW tool could work to be honest. I can't see it as something simple enough to release to the general public for use. I think they just need to release free worlds every now and then to compensate. There is absolutely no way they are going to change how the worlds work. It is designed this way for a reason.
Ayumap
10 years ago
"BrokenChaos69;14066956" wrote:
Willow Creek is the world and the separate areas are neighbourhoods within that world.

I don't really know how a CAW tool could work to be honest. I can't see it as something simple enough to release to the general public for use. I think they just need to release free worlds every now and then to compensate. There is absolutely no way they are going to change how the worlds work. It is designed this way for a reason.

Yes, as far as we're concerned Willow Creek is a world, but I think Ellessarr is saying that each neighborhood actually functions as its own world in terms of how it's actually running, not just from the map we see. (Correct me if I'm wrong). So you have to look at the function differently than the presentation.
Aikidoca
10 years ago
"BrokenChaos69;14066956" wrote:
Willow Creek is the world and the separate areas are neighbourhoods within that world.

I don't really know how a CAW tool could work to be honest. I can't see it as something simple enough to release to the general public for use. I think they just need to release free worlds every now and then to compensate. There is absolutely no way they are going to change how the worlds work. It is designed this way for a reason.

no willow creek is a "world only in name" the worlds are actually the little hoods in game they are the "real worlds" which are connected by the 2d map, when you travel between hoods you are actually travelling between worlds.

@Ayumap is exactly that, while for us willow creek is a world, in game process he is not a world, the true worlds are the hoods, each hood is a sepparated world little world.

i'm not saying which is not possible a caw, but not will be like either sims 2 or sims 3, not will be about built a large world and add lots on it, you will be building little worlds and use a external way to make then looks like a big world.
simmese
10 years ago
Its hardly a world when it has less lots than any of the other worlds in any of the other sims versions ... and its not really a neighbourhood because as we know you have to go through a loading screen to get to your neighbours house

Its just a lot of unconnected lots that EA decided to call a world

And I like TS4 , but I hate how they have implemented the worlds in this version and reintroduced loading screens , it makes me as a player feel less connected to my game
Aikidoca
10 years ago
"XopaxPax;14067017" wrote:
"Ellessarr;14066968" wrote:
"BrokenChaos69;14066956" wrote:
Willow Creek is the world and the separate areas are neighbourhoods within that world.

I don't really know how a CAW tool could work to be honest. I can't see it as something simple enough to release to the general public for use. I think they just need to release free worlds every now and then to compensate. There is absolutely no way they are going to change how the worlds work. It is designed this way for a reason.

no willow creek is a "world only in name" the worlds are actually the little hoods in game they are the "real worlds" which are connected by the 2d map, when you travel between hoods you are actually travelling between worlds.

@Ayumap is exactly that, while for us willow creek is a world, in game process he is not a world, the true worlds are the hoods, each hood is a sepparated world little world.

i'm not saying which is not possible a caw, but not will be like either sims 2 or sims 3, not will be about built a large world and add lots on it, you will be building little worlds and use a external way to make then looks like a big world.

But we don't know if the little hoods have a limited size you can make, maybe we can have neighborhoods that are about the same size was TS3 worlds, then make a world that has only one neighborhood, that one hood could be a giant map with 50 lots, i hope you get my theory.

yeah i was thinking about it and even in another topic also talked about it, it's possible create a "large hood" to be a world, but again this will be like in sims 3 where the large the "hood" the worst will be the the "potatoes machines".
also gonna have the problem of sims limit of 20.

imagine a large world with like you have in your house 8 sims then around that large world you gonna find like 12 sims.

imagine how desert will be a world with like 40 lots and a lot of public places but only 12 sims walking around, without count the "lag" which this large world can do, which is the reason we have tinny worlds nows.
xpaxion
10 years ago
I'd love to be able to make my own large hood, people could make Family Guy/ The Simpsons layouts with matching buildings. Or maybe even Silent Hill type buildings on custom lots. Sounds awesome.
LoveMcQueen
10 years ago
Someone on here the other day, I think it was @Writin_Reg , said that each neighborhood was a like a floating island and the backgrounds are fake. And you can't see the other islands from another island. You can only see the fake backgrounds.

So, if we got a CAW tool it would be just creating neighborhoods and putting them on a map like OP said. Though it may be possible to just make one large neighborhood which would be the closet thing we can get to a full open world in the Sims 4 (though loading screens for each lot still ruins this)
Ayumap
10 years ago
"LoveMcQueen5683;14067115" wrote:
Some on here the other day, I think it was @Writin_Reg , said that each neighborhood was a like a floating island and the backgrounds are fake. And you can't see the other islands from another island. You can only see the fake backgrounds.

So, if we got a CAW tool it would be just creating neighborhoods and putting them on a map like OP said. Though it may be possible to just make one large neighborhood which would be the closet thing we can get to a full open world in the Sims 4 (though loading screens for each lot still ruins this)

The upside (to this situation we're in) would be that we could add "interactive" objects to the open world. Like the chest tables, but in this case we can add out own things. Maybe have a little camp ground with horse shoes where sims can hang out. I think we'll need modders though to enable autonomous use of objects so that the sims wondering around will do more than grill and walk by.
luthienrising
Hero+
10 years ago
Even if a CAW tool did mean making individual neighbourhoods with a common map, I would still like to see a tool made available to us. I'm sure Simmers could come up with lots of concepts for worlds that Maxis might not decide it's making for us, even if those concepts do all need to be broken into neighbourhoods.
Aikidoca
10 years ago
"LoveMcQueen5683;14067115" wrote:
Some on here the other day, I think it was @Writin_Reg , said that each neighborhood was a like a floating island and the backgrounds are fake. And you can't see the other islands from another island. You can only see the fake backgrounds.

So, if we got a CAW tool it would be just creating neighborhoods and putting them on a map like OP said. Though it may be possible to just make one large neighborhood which would be the closet thing we can get to a full open world in the Sims 4 (though loading screens for each lot still ruins this)

yeah she say that too, but if you look in some of my old posts you gonna find which i already commented about it, but i get "writing_reg" comment as a good momment to try to clarif to the peoples how sims 4 worlds works and what is possible and what is not with the current engineer, before they can release a "caw" the game need a lot of improviments, specially in the population management or we can end even with something worst than what peoples had in sims 3 if they don't chamge/improve some crticial things.

@XopaxPax have good dreams is not something to be loling ^^, many peoples want something awesome, the problem is if that things are possible or no.