Sims need more personality

I agree. I miss the old style memories so much it actually hurts my heart :heartbreak:

I missed it completely. I only know about it because I read about it on the wiki, and I don't understand why they thought they had to change it. It's so annoying that the game insists on saying my Sim was happy about being abducted by aliens when he probably wasn't. (He loves his alien nooboos, though. ^_^)

last time they add personality update is like, years ago I think? by introducing new trait such as Jealous and added reactions where one's found out their spouse's flirting with others sim. they need to add more that gives sims' personalities some depths.

I agree there doesn't feel like there's enough depth to sims and I'm a player who turns off ageing and ignores everyone except for my "chosen one".

"group activities" feel shallow, friendships lack meaning when everyone is the same barring job/trait/life state interactions and even those are hollow. I've tried roleplaying a certain lifestyle but it all feels flat, just skill grinding or chasing need fulfillment.

For example, I would love to see a trait that lets sims eat raw fish and prefer meat dishes or a trait that allows sims to fill more of the hunger bar from eating baked goods because they have a sweet tooth...

Heck a "tired" moodlet as opposed to just "uncomfortable" would be good to see, it would slow down skill gain and you sim slouches- that could work as a trait "Unmotivated".

Sims 4 isn't my first game in the series but it's the one I'm most familiar with and I'd love a bit more depth to it.

I was really disappointed with the paranoid trait from Strangerville as I feel like they could've added more to it, like paranoia isn't just about people talking in the same room as you but oh well, conspiracy theorists and all that.

Yeah I agree with this. I overall adore sims
4 and it’s sims but they tend to feel way to alike even with different traits. I want traits to have more impact as well and the happy emotion to be toned down so it doesn’t override everything.

I think the story mode is a step in the right direction but like you said OP but we still need more. Memories really would be a nice touch and I hope they come back at some point. I’d love favorites to return as well.

"Akl500P;c-17172475" wrote:
Yeah I agree with this. I overall adore sims
4 and it’s sims but they tend to feel way to alike even with different traits. I want traits to have more impact as well and the happy emotion to be toned down so it doesn’t override everything.

I think the story mode is a step in the right direction but like you said OP but we still need more. Memories really would be a nice touch and I hope they come back at some point. I’d love favorites to return as well.

This. My feelings completely. They seriously need to tone down the happy buffs, specifically the happy environmental buffs. If your sims happens to live in a well decorated house, your sims will be happy constantly, which doesn't make any sense. I also agree on memories, favorites and more traits.

I'd like to see interests return, but they'd have to do it in a way that won't conflict with the traits we already have. Maybe you should have the option to decide a Sim's interests in CAS, and having certain traits will affect interests. Trait-specific interactions will still be tied to traits, though.

(For example, a Sim with the geek trait will start with four interest points in entertainment that can't be removed unless you change the trait, as well as being able to enthuse about new shows or whatever, while Sims who don't have that trait still won't have those interactions available to them, even if they have 8 points in that interest.)

I don't believe that TS4 will ever have memories as we know them.

The way that the game has been built, Sims are meant to be plugged in and out of various households, added and deleted at whim. Memories would make that kind of fluidity nearly impossible. Basically, memories would break one of TS4's few strengths.

TS2 arguably had the best memory system. However, that game was also very rigid. Deleting a Sim could totally bork an entire save, leaving behind all kinds of dangling data. As TS4 still tends to cull Sims, imagine the mayhem that would ensue.

This could be overcome, of course. There could be rigorous routines coded into the game to scrub and sanitize memories of any Sim that was purposely deleted. Only, I don't believe that EA would ever bother with the time or the expense.

Not to mention, from my experience with TS3's memory system and TS4's whims, the save file would be hopelessly clogged with memories of excellent meals, visits to the park, and other totally trivial nonsense.

"bixters;c-17173297" wrote:

"Akl500P;c-17172475" wrote:
Yeah I agree with this. I overall adore sims
4 and it’s sims but they tend to feel way to alike even with different traits. I want traits to have more impact as well and the happy emotion to be toned down so it doesn’t override everything.

I think the story mode is a step in the right direction but like you said OP but we still need more. Memories really would be a nice touch and I hope they come back at some point. I’d love favorites to return as well.

This. My feelings completely. They seriously need to tone down the happy buffs, specifically the happy environmental buffs. If your sims happens to live in a well decorated house, your sims will be happy constantly, which doesn't make any sense. I also agree on memories, favorites and more traits.

Removing the Room/Environment need from The Sims 1 and 2 in favour of using moodlets for it was a big mistake. If The Sims 4 had the Environment need then the problem with constant happy buffs from decorations would instantly be rendered non-existent, whilst the bar being full would still contribute to other buffs such as the well cared for moodlet, so it would still mean something.

^ I agree.

"Cynna;c-17173839" wrote:
I don't believe that TS4 will ever have memories as we know them.

The way that the game has been built, Sims are meant to be plugged in and out of various households, added and deleted at whim. Memories would make that kind of fluidity nearly impossible. Basically, memories would break one of TS4's few strengths.

TS2 arguably had the best memory system. However, that game was also very rigid. Deleting a Sim could totally bork an entire save, leaving behind all kinds of dangling data. As TS4 still tends to cull Sims, imagine the mayhem that would ensue.

This could be overcome, of course. There could be rigorous routines coded into the game to scrub and sanitize memories of any Sim that was purposely deleted. Only, I don't believe that EA would ever bother with the time or the expense.

Not to mention, from my experience with TS3's memory system and TS4's whims, the save file would be hopelessly clogged with memories of excellent meals, visits to the park, and other totally trivial nonsense.

Good point. :/

They should at least change it back to the way it was when the game was launched. It's not as good as TS2, but it's better than what we have now.

Earlier, I read the wiki page for traits in TS3, and I was thinking about how they worked; more specifically, what it said about young adults having up to 5 traits. Adding a couple of extra trait slots for each stage but making them optional could work, when it comes to not breaking preexisting Sims. (How annoying would it be if you downloaded a really cool-looking Sim from the gallery, only to find out that they were glitched because they didn't have enough traits?) Not sure how adding extra traits while aging up would work because I don't own the actual game. ^^;

Another option could be having extra trait slots as aspiration rewards (not too expensive - it would stink if the Sim got a new trait and then died five minutes later), and how many a Sim can have depends on their life stage. I think toddlers would still be okay with one trait, just because there aren't that many available for them, even without thinking about which ones would conflict (angelic and fussy, clingy and independent/charmer... and they can't access the rewards store anyway), but children, teens and adults of all ages could definitely do with a few more. We'll need a bigger selection of traits in the base game to really make that work, though.