The Sims 4 Feedback Thread - come share yours

All i'm saying is i got my refund the day the game came out. I did not like it at all. I've been playing the sims for over 10 years.

Well after a day of playing the Sims 4, this is my overall impression so far:

1) What I liked-
- What I liked most is the details put into the game with the emotion.
- Being able to create more detailed sims in CAS.
- The detail in the interactions is so much more.
- The graphics of the game look go much better then sims 3.
- The Build mode was really cool and a preference to the previous sims games.

2) What I didn't like -
- The lack other colors of hair and clothes in the create a sim mode
- Not being able to create your own version of the item was also a little disappointed.
- Not having a car and the loading screen to go to the house next door was also a little disappointing.
- Also not being able to recreate the world seems a little limiting going from being able to have around 100 houses in a world down to 25 houses is a big difference,

3) Suggestions?

I would suggest for EA to add an expansion very soon after to have a good amount of content to keep their fans interested in the game. This will maybe bridge some of the gaps missing in the game.

4) Overall thoughts?

My overall thoughts is I am loving the game but I was very disappointed with the lack of content to the game. I will probably keep playing to complete as much content as I can before the next expansion is out but I really hope EA take some notes on what their fans are saying to them as a lot of these lists seem to be repeated.

What I like and don't like about the Sims 4

Likes, I love the Create a Sims, I am finally able to create sims like real people I know, however no difference in heights, come on. All men are not shorter than the women. And I am sorry, if you want a game about life we have little and big people in real life. So height to me is an issue, one that EA should have addressed long ago. The clothing is very limited, however I am glade they did away with hats and hair combos. Color choices are very limited as well as patterns, for the player's that love creating clothing this is a great lose.

The Build mode is good when it comes to finally being able to move rooms and duplicating them or the whole house if you want. The roof, I feel is more user friendly. So for future expansions this will make building apartments and resorts easier.
The down side, the reason I wanted adjustable heights for walls was to be able to build L or U shape stairs, none of that is now possible since the cheats do not work here. The furniture is very limited in style, color and defiantly patterns, what they did offer I do like but not enough choices. You don't have the option of Moveobjects, so arrangement is also very limited. The lot size is also limited and very few lots are available in the world. So for all creative players that love to build, like myself EA has forgot all about us as players, Sims 3 was and still is a better medium for the creative player, sims 4 doesn't come close to what I was expecting here.

The world is the worse part of the game, I feel locked to my lot, and I am sorry to see sims going backward and not forward here. The style of home is also a let down, since it all looks the same.

Cost, the game is way to expensive for what you do get, here EA should refund 3/4 our money back, the game is only worse about 20 dollars at most.

Playing, no lag or glitches on my end of the game here. It does play very smoothly and the multi tasking is a very nice touch.

However playing is all about going to work, cooking, cleaning dishes or commodes and sleeping there isn't much time for anything else. Now sorry guys, that to me makes for a very boring game.
What they should have done here was have the sims only work 4 hours at most, make tons of money to be able to go places and buy cool things. Their day should be long enough to enjoy them selves beside taking care of bodily functions. So once again you can't use the cheat testingcheatenabled on and clicking on a mail box to give your sims the life you wish you could have, I spend enough time cleaning house and taking care of my bodily functions without sitting for hours to make sure a toon does the same. I also found the emotion thing to consuming, always trying to find out what up set which sims and trying to take care of yet another body function (emotions).

I haven't tried the babies or the missing toddlers, to be honest I always put the cheats on while playing them. LOL.

What I was hoping for, was a game with textures, colors, and patterns that you could apply to a range of objects, clothing, furniture, and housing. Blank textures, and blank patterns with a color wheel so that you could create a vase array of patterns, to mix an match now that would be the creative tool for sims. A CAW like game that you could create a whole world with your own style, a world you could paint, build and apply roads as you played. Now to me that would be a creative players game. To be able to have adjustable wall heights, say every 2 feet so you could build real homes with L and U shape stairs and different room heights like a split level home, and since steep stairs went out with the dark ages, and all without a cheat on. Oh ya do away with lots altogether or at least make them adjustable so you could make any size lot you wanted.

I want my sims to have the options to do the things I don't have time or money to do in real life, while still being about to sit, sleep and interact with the amazing new home or world I built them. It would be cool to have premade worlds for players that don't like building. Also make it to where CC can't get into your game and ruin it.

To make the create a sims unlimited to where you could make weird aliens it that was your thing, this is the only creative medium game that I know of, why not make it as it was intend to be, creative in every aspect, and fun with sims doing outrageous things that make us laugh, not bore us with how real our own lives can some time be.

First of all, let me excuse for my bad english in advance. I am german and live in germany, so I am unfortunately not a native english speaker. Never the less I wanted to voice my opinion in a place where it will (hopefully) be heard and since SimGurus read here once in a while, I figured my chances are better here than elsewhere. But of course this post is not only adressed to EA but to fellow sim-players as well. Since this will probably be a very long post I will structure it into subtitles. That way you can just skip to the parts you are interested in.

A short explanation who I am
I am a 32 year old,physically disabled woman, but this should not be of too much interest. The more interesting fact about me is, that I am a Sim-Player from the first our. I have played Sims 1 with all expansion packs except for Hokus Pokus since Sims 2 was released. I played and still play Sims 2 with every expansion pack and stuff pack and a lot of custom content. I have The Sims 3 and every expansion pack but two or three. Actually, I wasted my money on that game, because as a rotational player, generation-player and family-player I never really warmed up with that sequel of the game. I felt ignored in the way I play by EA. Sims 4 should have been a new start.
(On a side note: I hardly play any other computer games except some time-management games and one or two simulations).

The positive things
This should not only be a rant, because there are some parts in The Sims 4 I really like. For example I appreciate that the rotational game play is supported again! It supports and favors my way of playing and was one of the reasons I gave Sims 4 a chance. I also like the emotions since they offer a new depth to the Sims as pixel-persons. The Sims in general seem more life-like as in Sims 3 and I personally like the look of them so far. The options for clothing is great and modern and looks awesome.
I really like the new career-system that is not based on friends but based on tasks you have to do. This is a lot more realistic in my opinion, so I give thumbs up for that. :up: And I love the huge diversity in the interaction-menue. The new interface takes a bit of getting used to and I am not completely used to it yet, but I already thing that it is a huge improvement towards Sims 1 - 3 .
Last but not least the CAS and the new Build Mode is indeed very powerful and the last named feature seemed to be developed by people who really play The Sims Games. I wish I could say that in other expects of the game as well...

The little things missing
First of: We all know that this is a base game and we can not expect the depth of a game boosted up with countless expansion packs from the last years. But there are a lot of little things that are missing in the game which makes me feel like the people who programmed the life mode of The Sims never really played the game themselfes for more than a few hours. So let me just list some little things of life that where in EVERY other Sim Game ever since Sims 1 but are missing in The Sims 4 and lead to a downgrade in gameplay.

• Doorbell : Seriously, how can they forget about that? I hardly ever hear the knocks on the door of my house and I do not understand why the neighbors can not use a doorbell anymore.
  
• Fireman: Ever had a single-Sim on fire? It is their death. Why on earth do we not have a fireman anymore?
  
• Policeman: Well, you can be a criminal in Sims 4, but you do not need to fear anything when being a naughty guy. ;) There is no police anyway.
  
• Burglar: Yes, they were annoying. But they brought the game to life.
  
• Maid: When my Sims are busy with working on their career I like it when someone else is taking care of the hard work at home. Well, in Sims 4 I can't relay on someone else...
  
• Postman: They did not do much, but again, they brought life to the game. I don't like my (extremly high) bills to appear in my mail box like magic. Because they are not magic, I can tell you!
  
• Repairman: Another fellow Sim form all other games that sadly disappeared into nothingness. Why?
  
• Dishwasher: :rolleyes: A household of eight Sims and all have to do their dishes? Again I feel like the programmer never played The Sims themself or otherwise they would have realized the lack of this object.
  
• Telephone: I know these days a lot of people only have a cellphone. However, as a family player I like it when there is a family phone. It was pretty lifelike when the phone rang and my Simself answered and got told that this was a friend of my Sim-Child wanted to chat. Now my Sim-Children will either have their own cellphone or can not call friends at all. (I did not play with children as of yet, so I can not tell for sure which way it will be.)
  

This is NOT a life-simulation
The subtitle of this section might sound a bit harsh but this is exactly how I feel about The Sims 4. The missing small features above are already a hint that the center of creating Sims 4 was not being as lifelike as possible - Sims 1 to 3 followed this route, Sims 4 does not. And that is where I come to the main reason of why I am writing this post. I sighed when realized the above things in the list but could deal with it. Now my Simself got a baby and my anger actually knows no limits anymore.
This is not a baby!! It is a lifeless, creepy-looking doll bount to a crib. Yes, I knew that before but seeing something in a video and actually feeling it while playing is a difference. And the humor of it is, even my Sims don't feel like this creepy creature is a pixel-life. My Sim-husband has the family trait and he got sad because his sister moved out the other day - he does not care the least that he is now father of a baby girl. But well, making a good breakfast made him confident. We all know that making scrambled eggs can make you happier than becoming a parent, don't we? :rolleyes: Actually, it seems like Yannik (the Sim man) does not even know the baby is there. Although he was there when the girl was born and the crib is standing in the bedroom.
Let me just not get started about the missing toddlers but move straight forward to some strong, personal feelings.

EA does not care about family-players
Ever since Sims 2 players wanted to dress-up their babies and have more to do with them. To be fair, we have a little more to do with them now and I appreciate that we can also breast-feed. But this simply does not make anything better anymore when the babies do not even look like their parents. They have a totally different skin texture and are drawn terribly! Since they are bound to the crib they are not even a real part of the family life - and obviously should not be since the mom or dad do not even get some days off from work to care for the baby. They can still not be dressed, being hold while sitting, cuddled on the sofa and now not even put into different cribs or being carried around or lied down to play with a baby-gym or whatever.

The fact that there are no toddlers should have told me right from the start that EA is not interested anymore in my group of players. The players that like to simulate a normal life with a bit of humor and drama added. (Even the option of jobs should have told me that the life-simulation players are not addressed with this game. There are almost none "down-to.earth.jobs.)

I even go that far that I say that Sims 4 will never be a game for players who love to play with the younger life-stages, even when toddlers will be added. The baby-stage can not be improved anymore and will always look as awkward as it does now.

My last words on this
I was a true sim-fan that spend a lot of money on the game for years. I am not anymore. I will not buy anymore EPs just for purpose of collecting. No deeper family-gameplay in the future = no more Sims for me. :( And I feel extremely sad and disappointed about that but the way EA is treating us family players just tells me that they do not care for us and our money anymore. Let alone our opinion of the game. NEVER did a receive any feedback in the past nor did EA apologize ever to the fans for the lack of toddlers, the critic for object babies or anything else. All they say is, that they can not serve every player.

Well, my fault, I think. I thought with a life-simulation it would be possible to simulate life. Normal, colorful, fun life. But instead of this weirder stories are possible now - normal stories not anymore.

I posted this comment before also on MTS, so sorry for the weird intro.

> @SimGuruHydra said:
> Happy The Sims 4 Launch week!
> For Simmers who are playing TS4 - we invite you to share your feedback in this sticky.
I feel like I just flushed $60 down the toilet. I hate the world map...what is that anyway???? I don't like not being able to walk to where I want to go. I don't like the build mode at all. I have Sims 1, 2, 3, and now 4....my favorite is still Sims 1.

I consider myself a Sims veteran, I have played and followed the game since the Sims 1 was released. I'm really gutted that my first ever post to the forum is going to be a bad one.

After playing for around 10 hours of game play my overall impression is pretty poor, I do like some of the new features such as the emotions, multi tasking, the one time maid and CAS but not enough to outweigh the cons.

Things I don't like:

-No colour wheel (This was a huge factor in TS3, to take it back to the TS1/TS2 level makes no sense to me)
-No open world! Again a huge step back that makes no sense to me, this and the colour wheel were the selling points of TS3 on launch
-The graphics are TERRIBLE. I chopped and changed all my settings up because I thought it was a problem on my end... it wasn't.
-No cars
-No Toddlers
-No Pools
-No Basement
-No Edit town
-No repairmen
-The camera controls are annoying and the edge scrolling doesn't even work
-No Dishwasher or waste disposal?!
-Hate the way sims go to work
-Loading screens
-Crashing (Not due to graphic problems)

To be honest I could go on forever, the whole game to me feels very basic, which is a shame because I feel like it had the potential to be so much more. I have been more impressed by stuff packs than this whole base game and by reading other simmers comments I can see that I am not alone in thinking this.

I have a love hate relationship with the small amount of lots available..it's easier to choose yet every game I play will be so similar? I guess as EP's get added the world will slowly expand but still.
Also the cheat to keep moods up seems to stop when you travel to another lot?

PS I think necklaces would make more sense being with the rings and bracelets

Dear EA,
I have been a simmer for the past three years. I am 12 years old. You have destroyed my life by not making TS4 available on a Mac. I will be committing suicide in three weeks if not given a reply saying that you will have the mac version out soon. It is all your fault you donkey raping shiteaters. Thanks for reading!
-iheartsims16