Wait a moment! (A potental realization about the Michaelson family)

"Gordy;c-18245828" wrote:
Huh, so Christopher loved Celeste even when she identified as a man. There's something real wholesome about that, loving her no matter who she was.

I think her identity is a woman, she can also get others pregnant.
I usually insist the gender in CAS is what they want to be because of living in a Utopia. If they have other pronouns, like Jay Robles, they can be non-binary.

"SimSoon;c-18245805" wrote:


Actually if you use the in-game mechanics of gossiping for "San Sequoia Secrets" she and her husband will directly tell you that she's trans.

Spoiler

It's not a secret, but I still prefer not to talk about it with people I don't know as well. I came out as trans just before we adopted Atlas. I'd been thinking about it for a long time but hadn't said anything to anyone until I blurted it out to my friend, Doli, and she just said: if you feel like you are, maybe you should embrace the idea that you are a woman. I already knew in my heart who I really was, but that early support from her and from my husband meant everything.

Celeste has always said it's okay to talk about this stuff, but the day she came out to me to say that she was trans was so huge. I was surprised, but I also just thought that it somehow made so much sense for her. All I want is for my wife to be happy; it's really magical to see someone you love get to really, truly be themselves!

So it is a fact.

Ah ok, so it’s literally written into the game. There’s nothing Mr. Smartarsh over here can say about that then. Good for Celeste & Fam!

Going by the description it makes even more sense that Maxis didn’t make a big deal out of it.
The fact that Celeste is now getting all this extra special attention just for being trans is probably the opposite of what she‘d want. ?

Before adopt Atlas?

"leo3487;c-18245988" wrote:
Before adopt Atlas?

Spoiler

It mean Christopher married when Celeste still was male

I think she finally took herself in, to be a mother for the coming kids

"tegteg87;c-18243853" wrote:
I disagree - I think it’s amazing for inclusivity. I think not drawing attention to the fact she’s trans whilst using the family in all the promo for the pack is great - they weren’t drawn into tokenism for publicity. You only find out if you’re playing the family and take the time to get to know them by scratching the surface of who they are. If you’re only interacting with them on a surface level it’s not relevant. It only becomes relevant when you’re playing from their POV. Plus it’s creating characters with rich and interesting back stories. Love it!

I agree with you, I'm someone who likes to create my own neighbourhoods but I feel that Pre-Mades should have things that you get to discover. I'm all for inclusivity and things like adoption/having children are real life decisions for LGBTQ+ families. I feel the fact we are discovering Celestes past through *gameplay* and not through flagpole hollow promotion makes me proud. ??️‍??️‍⚧️
LGBTQ+ matters aside I miss the days in Sims 2 when you had to factor in a Sims aspirations and interests over just finding a random premade and everything being open to you. Really hope this townie update really looks into these new options to finetune all households pre Growing Together.
For those that want to tell their own stories that's cool too, I've spent years fine tuning premades to tell *my* stories. That's the beauty of customisation.

Also worth noting that Celestes office has one of the LGBTQ+ paintings and the colour scheme there is based on the trans pride flag.

I suspected she was a trans woman from the start.

I think it’s great they added a transgender sim as a prominent NPC of a pack. Simple as that hehe. Trans rights <3