@ajduckie @Hephaestion02 @Shh-speechless
I ended up replacing the cube map texture with a simple black 128x128 PNG in S4S and it fixed the issue, I'm back to a normal TV again.
I replaced this:
with this:
@ajduckie
I would be 99% definite that the issue is not with Peacy's CC. He is the most responsible creator and always test and updates his stuff, plus I have everything of his and am not experiencing it on my Macs.
It is definitely a CC issue and may be just one piece of CC causing it. When you do the 50/50 method you should also trash the localthumbcache file each time.
You should probably jump into that thread at S4S and ask, they are way better equipped for CC issues and that thread definitely seems to be the right one. Let me know how you get on! 🙂
I agree - I couldn't possibly believe that this was a case of bad CC from Peacemaker. He's arguably my most trusted CC creator. I know his content is good and I know how hard it works to make it work correctly! That's why I'm so confused by the issue! Why are his objects showing the glitch, even without any other CC in my game? It just doesn't make any sense!
I also posted some info in Athena's Mac Help discord server, I think you're in there? Sorry for so many spontaneous updates... Hard to keep everything organized here..
Will do that now! I'll also go ahead and try the same thing out with the LittleDica items, separately of course. And by the way, I have indeed been trashing my localthumbcache file after every launch/quit, just to be safe!
I'll let you know what I find 🙂
Darn. Did as you said, but I'm still getting the effect, even with absolutely no CC in my game except for Peacemaker's Caine Living television, Inspire Desktop PC, and Inspire Laptop (Vara Office Set). See pictures below.
Tried different lighting settings, angles, etc. No luck. ☹️
Attaching three photos here. One of the Caine TV, one of the Caine TV and the Inspire Desktop PC, and one of the Desktop PC super close up, because as I said in a previous, the effect showing on that one is relatively newly noticed, and it's VERY subtle right now.
The effects shift and come in and out of view as I pan the camera angle. No changes from lighting adjustments.
Let me know what you think..
Yeah, I tried the new, clean game folder when I did the full uninstall/reinstall. And I've got my TS4/Origin apps in my main Applications folder, rather than my user Applications folder, so the new user thing wouldn't work I don't think. I did set up a Test User when I was troubleshooting with an Apple rep but we didn't see any differences in the issues I was having.
I could always do another uninstall/reinstall, plus a SMC reset and then try again.
What's frustrating me is just not understanding the issue. It helps that I can tell it's a problem with the cube maps, so I'm so happy you linked that post. At least now I have the right terminology for what I'm seeing. But I just don't understand what's happening with those cube maps - if they're multiplying, if it's a problem with the cube map resources within the package files of the CC I'm having problems with, or if it's a problem with how the game itself is reading/rendering those cube maps. Because you haven't been able to replicate the issue with Peacemaker's CC, and because he's such a trusted creator, I'd guess that it's a problem with how the game itself is rendering cube maps. But that doesn't explain why the effect is more visible on certain objects over others...
the thing is, i don't think we can be entirely sure that it's actually just a case of some bad cc... because previously, everything worked fine in my game, including the items that are now being rendered improperly. when this issue appeared, updates and hotfixes were the only things to have changed about my game.. no new cc or mods. additionally, the 50/50 process pointed me repeatedly to those five items by Peacemaker and LittleDica, so those items should be the bad cc, but we're pretty much positive that those items themselves aren't broken because they're working for other people..
so i guess i'm confused about why those items, without ANY other cc or mods in my game, aren't appearing properly for me when they appear fine for other people.. we've established that it's not a hardware issue by monitoring my gpu/cpu during gameplay
to me, it looks like the game is failing to properly render cube maps. instead of the normal proper cube map, i'm getting a grid of lots and lots of little cube maps?
I guess what I'm trying to say is, if those items by Peacemaker are appearing with the glitch, with a brand new reinstalled game and absolutely no CC or mods, then the problem should theoretically be with those items by Peacemaker. But we established that those items aren't broken... so I don't understand how it could be a problem with a file on my computer if the issue appeared with absolutely no files other than the Peacemaker ones in a completely fresh game folder?
Success! It finally happened in my game on a CC TV:
I also discovered what I think is causing it.... If you quit the game in Live Mode, paused or unpaused it doesn't matter, the next time you open it and load the household it is unpaused and the glitch occurs. If you quit the game in Build/Buy mode the game is paused when you next load it and the glitch doesn't occur. Can you try that and let me know if it's the same for you?
That's the problem that I'm not understanding - it shouldn't even be possible... but I tried it again last night with three different tests: one with a repaired game, one with a brand new game folder, and one with a full uninstall/reinstall. For each test I put absolutely nothing in my game except the Peacemaker Caine Living TV (fresh download from Peacemaker, as the package file isn't in my mods folder anymore anyways since the start of this problem). No mods, cc, saves, or tray files. Loaded up the game, started a new save, loaded a lot, and placed the Caine TV, and the glitch showed up. For each of the three tests I tried this process twice - once by loading into live mode, then entering build/buy, and once by loading directly to build/buy from the map view.
I'm absolutely stumped.. because you're right - using the same steps we should be able to reproduce the issue and find common denominators. But so far, the only common denominators are that we're running The Sims 4 on Mac and that the problem starts by appearing on CC objects.. beyond that, it's a mystery to me.
By the way, I also posted on S4S forums last night with some details and a link back to the thread here. Didn't want to repeat everything in case I was posting the message in the wrong thread/board at first, or in case posting the same super long thread on two different forums is considered bad etiquette. Either way, no one has replied yet, but I'm hoping that because there are a good deal of CC-creators over there, someone may have a clue about what might be going on. Especially because LittleDica and Peacemaker themselves both seem to be pretty familiar with the mechanics of cube maps, according to the threads I've found over there (the one you linked as well as another where Peacemaker gave some advice to another creator about a cube map issue).
Anyways, I'm going to go in game and do more testing with the variables you mentioned in your second message. So far, I've gotten the glitch when quitting the game from build/buy as well as live mode. But I'm going to lay out a few more tests to try to isolate the different variables that could be affecting the issue, and I'll go from there and report back.
Also did some exploring in S4S last night, taking a look through the warehouse tab at the resources associated with the package files of Peacemaker's Caine TV and a base-game EA TV. Didn't find any differences that jumped out at me as clues, but I can keep looking at some of the other objects that have appeared with the glitch and maybe I'll find something worth noting.
Last, just wanted to make sure you know how grateful I am that you've been working so hard to help me with this problem. It's certainly not an easy one, and it means a lot that you're spending your time helping me figure this out. Your work is deeply deeply appreciated, seriously. Not just with this case, but with all the work you do on the forums here.
Yeah, despite the frustration I've tried to remind myself that I'm lucky my game at least can start up and run! 🙂
So...... I've just updated to Catalina from Mojave and now I'm getting the same as you:
Definitely a CC issue and looking like just a Mac issue. We need someone with an NVIDIA GPU and someone with an Intel chip to test too 🙂
