Funds

"EE_Elephterion;c-2143627" wrote:

"Soixie;c-2143614" wrote:
Lemme see if I fully understand this thread correctly. Envision (German) working collectively with EA (US), have for the past 8 years allowed most countries outside the US to pay $15 USD for 50k funds.

Envision Entertainment has no handle on any of the payment or pricing matters, that is the sole domain of Electronic Arts. We simply forwarded this loophole to our contacts at EA when we became aware of that and EA acted upon this.
We don't know exactly how long this has been exploited in the past.

You informed EA about the 'loophole'?
The only thing keeping this game alive...
The thing that ensures EA pays you to maintain this game?

How 'good' of you.
I hope you feel better now.
Thanks for killing the game.

Nobody in their right mind will start a new world now.
Try to launch one and see ..

"gamerdruid;c-2143733" wrote:
Please remember to post only in English in this forum!

I challenge all that have complained to find examples of big American or European gaming companies that varies their online worldwide prices according to local income levels.

Do Apple charge less, or Microsoft? Do other gaming companies charge less in areas according to local wage/income levels?

3 words -> MARKETING -> PRICE DIFFERENTIATION!!!!!

Cmon - that’s basic knowledge. Do some internet research and you will find so many examples! ?

> @EE_Elephterion said:
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> Envision Entertainment has no handle on any of the payment or pricing matters, that is the sole domain of Electronic Arts. We simply forwarded this loophole to our contacts at EA when we became aware of that and EA acted upon this.
> We don't know exactly how long this has been exploited in the past.

You just killed the game.

I'm no currency or taxation expert, but the vast majority of games in that list look as if they're priced at about the same for all locations if you factor in local taxation and weakness of currencies. Quite a number don't price for Argentina, so EA are acting in common with them.

The discussion about whether a game should cost the average of 1h, 2h or 24h of wages is a common one that comes up every time the price changes. If you live in Palestine you probably can't buy anything as many companies block them.

No matter how much we complain, I've never seen the complaints about pricing here make any difference to EA policy. Threats to leave - or just leaving - do have an impact on the income, but the people who decide the pricing structure won't be the EA or EE staff who read these posts.

"JGC1311;c-2143787" wrote:
Have you released a new fraction*

A new faction hasn't been released - but in the years I've been playing there have been a lot of changes. The introduction of a new economy, malus, of forgotten attacks and upgrades to the units. Others who have played longer have seen the introduction of the fortress and hubs.

We've seen the introduction of Veteran worlds, Firestorm special worlds, WCS worlds and changes to balance have taken place in the time I've been playing the browser game.

Whilst prices have increased over the years, the price of everything has gone up. It was around £25 when I started, now can be had at £30 to £35. Much in line with UK inflation i suspect over the period I've played.

I don't recognise the games - are they all from many different publishers or are they all from the same one?

The list of countries are mainly European or industrialised. Southern American countries do feature and sometimes they have the cheapest prices. Where is Algeria, Afghanistan, Pakistan or Mongolia or Palestine and Syria? Where is a long list of African countries? They're not on the list. My guess is they are charged in US $ or Euros or some other currency. I don't know. Until the recent change that changed some prices in some countries to US $, the game would have appeared in the list as cheaper than the rest of the world, not by the actions of EA but by the vagaries of the currency markets and international weakness/strength of currencies.

But at the end of all this, EA won't be changing - so players either play for free and accept the limitations of the game when they do, pay up and accept it is expensive or leave.

@gamerdruid
Could you tell me how is your and devs and Envision crew salary formed?
Do you have a fixed wage , per hour , bonuses for this project "Tiberium Alliances"?

I'd like to know do you have any benefit from buying funds by players, any percent? I mean do have any % from funds like a part of your and Envision crew income?

i think you have in the other case i have no explanation why you snitched on Argentina.

Like many players mantioned here before there is now fresh blood here. You can tell me - leave this game.
But you have to wait when the present game generation will change and new generation (if it be) will accept your rules and prices.If you have % from funding you poo on your heads
We have a saying which describs your acts - Mice were crying, picked but continued to eat the cactus.
You can or can't depends on many factors , but i see there is a chance you can lose some profit while waiting the generation change.

The only way for you to understand that you are wrong is to punish you with money. Leave like you mantioned here od don't buy fubds and accept limits

Hi, EA. Please consider that 99% of users playing this game are not satisfied with the cost of funds. Lots of people been playing this game for a lot of time and are very much dissapointed as it is a pay to win game.
Please consider placing US funds same as Argentina funds. Everyone can pay 13$ for 50k funds. You will eventually notice a big drop in revenue by the end of this quarter if no actions are done and huge drop the following months. Remember we play this game for the fun it represents,ñ. Please keep this in mind. Better having cheap funds but with high volume of players with múltiple accounts Than expensive funds with very few players.

"Accept1982;c-2143882" wrote:
@gamerdruid
Could you tell me how is your and devs and Envision crew salary formed?
Do you have a fixed wage , per hour , bonuses for this project "Tiberium Alliances"?

I have no idea how Envision money is obtained, I'm not an employee.

I do know that I have no income or benefit in kind from being a moderator and no income from EA or Envision.

The existence of people paying does not affect my income at all, just the existence of the game for all, including me.

There is no way you can punish me with money and I had no say or influence in the use of cheap Argentinian funds or reporting it to EA, in fact I didn't even know about it's existence until the recent wave of protests.

"gamerdruid;c-2143979" wrote:

"Accept1982;c-2143882" wrote:
@gamerdruid
Could you tell me how is your and devs and Envision crew salary formed?
Do you have a fixed wage , per hour , bonuses for this project "Tiberium Alliances"?

I have no idea how Envision money is obtained, I'm not an employee.

I do know that I have no income or benefit in kind from being a moderator and no income from EA or Envision.

The existence of people paying does not affect my income at all, just the existence of the game for all, including me.

There is no way you can punish me with money and I had no say or influence in the use of cheap Argentinian funds or reporting it to EA, in fact I didn't even know about it's existence until the recent wave of protests.

yet you defend it at the cost of the game entirely.
you must be delusional to think this is fair and a good business step.
increasing the price 2 to 300% and also expect countries with lesser economies to pay US prices.
And to top it off during a pandemic with tens of millions of people becoming unemployed everywhere.

@EE_Elephterion I still dont understand why you snitched on the Argentina funds thing.
What on earth do you gain from it?
Other than more time once EA pulls this project down and away from Envision.