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o-RayeGunn-o's avatar
o-RayeGunn-o
Seasoned Scout
2 months ago
Status:
Under Investigation

[BH] Business open when visiting as guest after visiting as customer

So I have a save with several small businesses, and i want to visit  one of them as a friend, not a customer, but every time i go to the lot, the business is open. I selected to visit as a guest, but it is open anyway. I went into the business owner household and bought a second lot and closed it on the home lot in hopes that this would allow me to just visit my friend, since there would be only one option available to visit but... it still opens the business when visiting, i can not select plain old 'residential' as a lot type. I tried visiting other small business lots in the save, but they worked fine. This lot USED to work to visit as a friend, but somewhere along the way it seems to have broken. Does anyone have any idea what caused it to break and how to fix it? I did recently rebuild this lot from scratch to get rid of the Irresistible Scent "perk" which I ended up absolutely hating, but it's.... scent emitters got stuck on the lot, I think one  emitter may remain though. But the lot did work before when it had all the stuck emitters, just, that's the only thing about it that's changed recently. I am playing as an employee of this business, and as a ghost, so thought maybe one of those two was messing with things, but i tried with another sim that has no connection to any small business, and is still alive, and the same thing happened.

Tried to visit as a friend, but it's open.Welp, guess i'm going to work. :-/ the business owner and other employee are doing their tasks as well. didn't get paid though.It did allow me to go into the part of the lot marked as private, without teleporting. And I can use objects there, like i would be able to do if i was a guest.it is not supposed to open on this lot at all anymore.visiting this other small business lot as a guest works fine.

I do have a bunch of mods, but did remove the folder and tried again, but the problem was the same 

Edit By Crinrict: Adjusted Title

20 Comments

  • o-RayeGunn-o's avatar
    o-RayeGunn-o
    Seasoned Scout
    2 months ago

    oh and BTW, the broken business is in San Myshuno, but I have others in Newcrest (bowling alley in the upper corner), Moonwood Mill (blue building on the formerly empty lot), and Chestnut Ridge (the very large formerly open lot) if you wanted to compare

  • crinrict's avatar
    crinrict
    Hero+
    2 months ago

    Thanks. Received. Will test tomorrow and let you know what I find.

  • thanks!

    I just did some more testing myself, after realizing the timing seemed to line up with visiting it as a customer, and went  to the save where it was still ok, and visited it as a customer, stayed for an hour or so, went back home and then visited the household. And it broke. So visiting as a customer was the trigger. I did the same with other small business lots, and the same thing:

    It's just that this comedy club is the one that has a real reason for visiting as a cusstomer, because it is super good for skill training, so it's the one that broke first. the others are either something i visited quite a while ago, or are just not something that's fun or useful to visit as a customer, they're more for the business owner to play, so i never had a reason to visit as a customer.  The weird thing is, I have done this before, with no issues, but now it seems to break the business, so it might be a new bug. But I am going to quit right now and test going to businesses without mods to make sure it was not a mod that broke it. btw. I have also been noticing while visiting the household, and getting the weirdly open thing, that it's begun spawning customers that do not match the business rules. Lots of toddlers and pets spawning when the business does not have dependants as a target customer, and do not spawn when running the business. also gotten weird special sims like Temperance, Edith, Bonehilda, Greg, and (alive in my game for some reason, but he's been that way since the start) Captain Whitaker in this screenshot, that i have never seen when playing as the business owner. 

  • OK, yeah this is without mods, and it broke after visiting the lot as a customer. Tried again with the bowling alley  just to make double sure, and same thing. I can visit the household just fine UNTIL i visit their business as a customer, and from that point forward, their business is always open when I try to visit the household. So I think there may be a new bug, not a one off glitched stuck trait or something, this is repeatable. But is hard to notice organically unless you visit both the business and household, and may only really happen for rotational players (tho there are still the ones in Nordhaven). But it would be nice to have you and maybe others with their own saves confirm it, and i may have to just rebuild my progress over the past little while and remember to not go to businesses as a customer. 

     

     

  • Hi o-RayeGunn-o​ 

    I can duplicate this as described in your newest testing in your save and in my own (never had mods/cc).

    Would you mind editing the first post to add the repro steps of the issue ?

    Merged another thread into this.

  • o-RayeGunn-o's avatar
    o-RayeGunn-o
    Seasoned Scout
    2 months ago

    I would love to, I know it's messy right now since i was figuring out what was happening as i was posting, but after it got moved to the bugs section, i can't see where to edit it? it's replaced with the votes now

    edit - I edited it into the second post i made, if you want to copy and paste it into the first post, that would be perfect

  • Speedy1236's avatar
    Speedy1236
    Seasoned Adventurer
    2 months ago

    I have the same problem, and it's definitely a new problem. One of my sims relatives runs a business on her home lot, and until recently I was able to visit as a guest as well as a customer. Now the business is always open even when I arrive as a guest. My sims will mostly do the business activities rather than regular guest activities, too. 

    It was also previously possible to hold dinner parties on small business residentials just like on normal residentials, because the business would be closed (I did that a few times on Winterfest). This most recent Winterfest, all the party guests except for the children and the toddler had to buy the entrance tickets at the ticket kiosk to be able to enter the house and partake in the party, and then most of the NPC guests didn't go into the private areas but kept to the business areas and the garden. I had to move the festive tree into the yard so everyone would actually come light it together. And because the business was open, random NPCs constantly came to talk to the party guests or tried to eat the food. I have held the same party on the same lot with the same sims before and this was never an issue. 

  • lukabab's avatar
    lukabab
    Seasoned Rookie
    20 days ago

    Same here, after first visit as guest of the household. The next visit i can't visit the household anymore. I can only visit the business.