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simblogger
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23 days ago
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Cannot pay my bills

Product: The Sims 4
Platform:PC
Which language are you playing the game in? English
How often does the bug occur? Every time (100%)
What is your current game version number? 1.109.185.1030
What expansions, game packs, and stuff packs do you have installed? All of them.
Steps: How can we find the bug ourselves? Use the "Pay Bills" option, either via the phone or the mailbox.
What happens when the bug occurs? The progress bar (circle) disappears and the option remains.
What do you expect to see? The bills are paid. The progress bar moves to 100% and the option disappears.
Have you installed any customization with the game, e.g. Custom Content or Mods? Not now. I've removed them.
Did this issue appear after a specific patch or change you made to your system? Neutral/Not Sure 

 

Ever since the last patch, I can't pay my bills. The game throws an exception every time (see attached). My households' power is now shut off as a result.

  • Status changed:
    Troubleshooting
    to
    Reviewed

    Going to set this to reviewed for now but if the issue persists and it's non of the threads linked above, I recommend posting at AHQ.

    This forum is currently in testing mode.

  • Status changed:
    New
    to
    Troubleshooting

    Seems the Exception didn't attach. Can you try uploading as rar file or copy/pasting the content ?

    Did you recently move with your Sim ?

    • simblogger's avatar
      simblogger
      New Spectator

      Here it is:

      <?xml version="1.0" ?><root>

      <report><version>2</version><sessionid>f8d8a624cd350fb666f19af7</sessionid><type>desync</type><sku>ea.maxis.sims4_64.15.pc</sku><createtime>2024-09-24 02:46:29</createtime><buildsignature>Local.Unknown.Unknown.1.109.185.1030-1.200.000.637.Release</buildsignature><categoryid>business_employee.py:24</categoryid><desyncid>f8d8a624cd350fb666f19af7</desyncid><systemconfig/><screenshot/><desyncdata>[manus] business_service failed to handle zone load due to exception (KeyError: 214)&#13;&#10;Traceback (most recent call last):&#13;&#10;&#13;&#10; File "T:\InGame\Gameplay\Scripts\Server\areaserver.py", line 130, in wrapped&#13;&#10; File "T:\InGame\Gameplay\Scripts\Server\areaserver.py", line 126, in finally_wrap&#13;&#10; File "T:\InGame\Gameplay\Scripts\Core\sims4\utils.py", line 157, in wrapper&#13;&#10; File "T:\InGame\Gameplay\Scripts\Core\sims4\utils.py", line 175, in wrapper&#13;&#10; File "T:\InGame\Gameplay\Scripts\Server\areaserver.py", line 383, in c_api_client_connect&#13;&#10; File "T:\InGame\Gameplay\Scripts\Server\zone.py", line 609, in do_zone_spin_up&#13;&#10; File "T:\InGame\Gameplay\Scripts\Server\zone_spin_up_service.py", line 1659, in update&#13;&#10; File "T:\InGame\Gameplay\Scripts\Server\zone_spin_up_service.py", line 276, in on_enter&#13;&#10; File "T:\InGame\Gameplay\Scripts\Core\sims4\service_manager.py", line 429, in on_zone_load&#13;&#10; File "T:\InGame\Gameplay\Scripts\Server\business\business_service.py", line 558, in on_zone_load&#13;&#10; File "T:\InGame\Gameplay\Scripts\Server\business\business_tracker.py", line 199, in on_zone_load&#13;&#10; File "T:\InGame\Gameplay\Scripts\Server\business\business_manager.py", line 1618, in on_zone_load&#13;&#10; File "T:\InGame\Gameplay\Scripts\Server\business\business_employee_manager.py", line 244, in on_zone_load&#13;&#10; File "T:\InGame\Gameplay\Scripts\Server\business\business_employee.py", line 24, in __init__&#13;&#10;KeyError: 214rtim=0&#13;&#10;Client Session Time: 20.07&#13; &#10;Num Save Errors: 0&#13; &#10;Num Load Errors: 0&#13; &#10;Current Game State: 0x96d01090&#13; &#10;LoadingScreenActiveFlag: 1&#13; &#10;Origin Version: 13,301,0,5814&#13; &#10;Modded: False&#13; &#10;SystemInfo: Windows 11 10.0.22631 GPU: NVIDIA GeForce RTX 2070 SUPER 32.0.15.6109, GUID: 6A65EB7C-3728-11EF-99B7-A005230FFB66&#13; &#10;</desyncdata></report>

      <report><version>2</version><sessionid>f8d8a624cd350fb666f19af7</sessionid><type>desync</type><sku>ea.maxis.sims4_64.15.pc</sku><createtime>2024-09-24 02:47:18</createtime><buildsignature>Local.Unknown.Unknown.1.109.185.1030-1.200.000.637.Release</buildsignature><categoryid>business_employee.py:24</categoryid><desyncid>f8d8a624cd350fb666f19af7</desyncid><systemconfig/><screenshot/><desyncdata>[manus] business_service failed to handle zone load due to exception (KeyError: 214)&#13;&#10;Traceback (most recent call last):&#13;&#10;&#13;&#10; File "T:\InGame\Gameplay\Scripts\Server\areaserver.py", line 130, in wrapped&#13;&#10; File "T:\InGame\Gameplay\Scripts\Server\areaserver.py", line 126, in finally_wrap&#13;&#10; File "T:\InGame\Gameplay\Scripts\Core\sims4\utils.py", line 157, in wrapper&#13;&#10; File "T:\InGame\Gameplay\Scripts\Core\sims4\utils.py", line 175, in wrapper&#13;&#10; File "T:\InGame\Gameplay\Scripts\Server\areaserver.py", line 383, in c_api_client_connect&#13;&#10; File "T:\InGame\Gameplay\Scripts\Server\zone.py", line 609, in do_zone_spin_up&#13;&#10; File "T:\InGame\Gameplay\Scripts\Server\zone_spin_up_service.py", line 1659, in update&#13;&#10; File "T:\InGame\Gameplay\Scripts\Server\zone_spin_up_service.py", line 276, in on_enter&#13;&#10; File "T:\InGame\Gameplay\Scripts\Core\sims4\service_manager.py", line 429, in on_zone_load&#13;&#10; File "T:\InGame\Gameplay\Scripts\Server\business\business_service.py", line 558, in on_zone_load&#13;&#10; File "T:\InGame\Gameplay\Scripts\Server\business\business_tracker.py", line 199, in on_zone_load&#13;&#10; File "T:\InGame\Gameplay\Scripts\Server\business\business_manager.py", line 1618, in on_zone_load&#13;&#10; File "T:\InGame\Gameplay\Scripts\Server\business\business_employee_manager.py", line 244, in on_zone_load&#13;&#10; File "T:\InGame\Gameplay\Scripts\Server\business\business_employee.py", line 24, in __init__&#13;&#10;KeyError: 214rtim=0&#13;&#10;Client Session Time: 20.07&#13; &#10;Num Save Errors: 0&#13; &#10;Num Load Errors: 0&#13; &#10;Current Game State: 0x96d01090&#13; &#10;LoadingScreenActiveFlag: 1&#13; &#10;Origin Version: 13,301,0,5814&#13; &#10;Modded: False&#13; &#10;SystemInfo: Windows 11 10.0.22631 GPU: NVIDIA GeForce RTX 2070 SUPER 32.0.15.6109, GUID: 6A65EB7C-3728-11EF-99B7-A005230FFB66&#13; &#10;</desyncdata></report>

      <report><version>2</version><sessionid>f8d8a624cd350fb666f19af7</sessionid><type>desync</type><sku>ea.maxis.sims4_64.15.pc</sku><createtime>2024-09-24 02:47:45</createtime><buildsignature>Local.Unknown.Unknown.1.109.185.1030-1.200.000.637.Release</buildsignature><categoryid>resolver.py:145</categoryid><desyncid>f8d8a624cd350fb666f19af7</desyncid><systemconfig/><screenshot/><desyncdata>Exception in Sim Timeline: Exception running Element (AttributeError: 'RetailManager' object has no attribute 'overdue_rent')&#13;&#10;Traceback (most recent call last):&#13;&#10; File "T:\InGame\Gameplay\Scripts\Server\scheduling.py", line 231, in simulate&#13;&#10; File "T:\InGame\Gameplay\Scripts\Server\elements.py", line 335, in _run&#13;&#10; File "T:\InGame\Gameplay\Scripts\Server\interactions\utils\interaction_elements.py", line 176, in _behavior_element&#13;&#10; File "T:\InGame\Gameplay\Scripts\Server\interactions\utils\loot_element.py", line 86, in _do_behavior&#13;&#10; File "T:\InGame\Gameplay\Scripts\Server\interactions\utils\loot.py", line 160, in apply_operations&#13;&#10; File "T:\InGame\Gameplay\Scripts\Server\interactions\utils\loot.py", line 631, in apply_to_resolver&#13;&#10; File "T:\InGame\Gameplay\Scripts\Server\interactions\utils\loot.py", line 586, in get_loot_ops_gen&#13;&#10; File "T:\InGame\Gameplay\Scripts\Server\event_testing\tests.py", line 556, in run_tests&#13;&#10; File "T:\InGame\Gameplay\Scripts\Server\event_testing\resolver.py", line 145, in __call__&#13;&#10; File "T:\InGame\Gameplay\Scripts\Server\business\business_tests.py", line 478, in __call__AttributeError: 'RetailManager' object has no attribute 'overdue_rent'rtim=0&#13;&#10;Client Session Time: 20.07&#13; &#10;Num Save Errors: 0&#13; &#10;Num Load Errors: 0&#13; &#10;Current Game State: 0x96d01090&#13; &#10;LoadingScreenActiveFlag: 1&#13; &#10;Origin Version: 13,301,0,5814&#13; &#10;Modded: False&#13; &#10;SystemInfo: Windows 11 10.0.22631 GPU: NVIDIA GeForce RTX 2070 SUPER 32.0.15.6109, GUID: 6A65EB7C-3728-11EF-99B7-A005230FFB66&#13; &#10;</desyncdata></report>

      </root>

      I have not moved house.

  • Is your Sim living on a residential rental lot ? If so, tenant or owner ?

    • simblogger's avatar
      simblogger
      New Spectator

      Residential and owner.

      On a possibly relevant note, one of the mods I had removed was the Live in Business mod, so although my lot is residential, it does have some retail items.

      I initially thought that mod was the culprit, but even after removing all mods and CC, the problem still exists.

      Additionally, I have tried with several Sims in the household, all to no avail. The household owns multiple rentals.

  • For testing purposes, on a backup of your save game, could you test if selling the rentals helps with anything ?

    • simblogger's avatar
      simblogger
      New Spectator

      Selling the rentals didn't work.

      EDIT: Tried it on a different househols and it worked (that household has never had rentals though).

  • Do all the business properly show up in the business tab ?

    There's a bug report for that over AHQ and I wonder if they are connected.

    • simblogger's avatar
      simblogger
      New Spectator

      You mean the rentals? Those do.

      (I tried to report this on AHQ but it wouldn't post).

  • I remember seeing those threads.

    Might move them out and back in and see.

  • So moving the household out worked and they were able to pay their bills.

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