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HollownessDevour
Seasoned Ace
10 months ago
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[LD] [EBN] Please make Mystical and Disruptive Compatible with Macabre

Ever since I heard about the new Mystical Trait—I was so excited to use with my favourite trait Macabre. I just think for a dark fairy or dark spellcaster it be an great complimentary combo. But you "conflicting traits" blocked them. To me the affinity of and to the occults and the affinity of death is ideal for the darker occults, and sims.

How is this not macabre compatible?How is this not mystical compatible?

Edit: just noticed Disruptive can't be Macabre either, like wut?

Edit, edit: I decided to fix/tweak the tune files in the meantime. If you are interested (the mod is here) I saw no issues when initially testing, as it is just file tuning, but be aware as modding and CC may have adverse effects to your game and I am just an amateur modder.

Edit, edit, edit: Looks like this is also reddit discussion worthy, with confusion and disappointment to why these aren't compatible.

Edit, edit, edit, edit: So I decided to look up the internal files to see if there is conflicting issues internally. The only obvious conflicting traits are Mystical vs. Disruptive. Even the fact that Macabre Tarot reads, and Mystical Aura reads as wants should be argument for compatibility.

MACABRE

MYSTICAL

DISRUPTIVE

Moodlets
+ Ew. SUN.
+ Vibe Killer
+ Très Gothique
+ The Witching Hour
+ So It Goes
+ Beginning is the End
+ Boo Who?
+ A Grim Presence Is Afoot...
+ Haunting Memories
+ Rainy Days Light Me Up
+ Never Lost
+ Strange Love
+ Embrace the Darkness
+ Falling. Fleeting. (AA)

Moodlets
+ Aurarific
+ Destined
+ In My Element
+ Otherworldly Calling

Moodlets
+ Bundle of Nerves
+ Need for Chaos
+ Such a Rebel
+ Why So Gullible

Interactions
+ Spread the Gloom
+ Make Morbid Observation
+ Ghastly Gavotte
+ Cryptic Handshake (with other Macabre or Chased By Death)

Interactions
+ Consult with Cosmos
+ Read Aura
+ Grant Sacred Blessing

Interactions
+ Share Grand Delusion
+ Create False Narrative
+ Offer Help with Balance
+ Disturb Plants

Relationship
+ Faster Relationships with Ghosts. Also a 25% social boost when socializing with Ghosts.
+ Slower Relationships with Cheerful, Bro, Active or Good Sims as long as they aren't also Creative, Gloomy, Goofball, Bookworm, Loner, Evil or Geek.

Relationship
+ Faster Relationships with Aliens, Fairies, Ghosts, Mermaids, Spellcasters, Vampires and Werewolves.

Relationship
+ Slower Relationships with Fairies.

Wants
+ Attend Funeral
+ Become Close with Dead
+ Collect Tarot Card
+ Explore the Crypts
+ Give Tarot Reading
+ Visit Well of Souls

Wants
+ Good Friends with Fairy
+ Grant Sacred Blessing
+ Enchant Plants
+ Read Aura

Wants
+ Prank a Fairy
+ Share Grand Delusion
+ Disrupt a Plant
+ Create False Narrative
+ Expose Fairy Council

Skills
+ Thanatology +25%

Skills
+ Apothecary +20%
+ Herbalism +20%
+ Medium +20%
+ Wellness +20%

Skills*
+ Cooking +20%
+ Handiness +20%
+ Natural Living +20%

Career
+ Mortician +50%
+ Reaper +50%

Career
+ Naturopathic +20%

Career
N/A

Balance
N/A

Balance
+ Improves Balance

Balance
+ Reduces Balance

*For some reason Disruptive does not improve the Mischief skill, probably an error/oversight, bug report here.

Edit Nov 7th, 2025: As mentioned in a comment Chased by Death should also be compatible with Mystical. It really doesn't make sense for these to be conflicting as well.

Edit Feb 17th, 2026: In respect to Mysterious Ideals from R&L both Macabre and Mystical are under Mysterious, which again I believe adds validity to the request these are allowed to be compatible. We are short on selections compared to other Traits and Ideals, by making incompatible just makes it more frustrating.

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  • LiELF's avatar
    LiELF
    Legend
    10 months ago

    Completely agree. If a trait doesn't have a clear opposite, let it be flexible. The opposite of Macabre is not Mystical, they are more related than opposing. Opposites are things like, "sunny disposition", "fear of death", even cheerful or optimistic. But Mystical? Being drawn to death and the macabre to a degree of morbid fascination is absolutely mystical. 

    Also, traits should always be considered for cross-pack play. Giving them random opposites that are only chosen to fit their parent EP is limiting and disappointing.

     

  • L00nyL0v3's avatar
    L00nyL0v3
    Rising Vanguard
    10 months ago

    I dislike that as well; it's needlessly over-the-top and unhelpful. Macabre gets treated like Gloomy 2.0 in a lot of ways, with a smattering of High Maintenance, and as much as I like the trait, I think this is detrimental to it. 

  • HollownessDevour's avatar
    HollownessDevour
    Seasoned Ace
    10 months ago

    My Macabre Sim is a collector, gemologist, alchemist/herbalist and soon to be apothecary skilled, so almost always outside (usually has the outdoorsy lifestyle) and in hot weather, I sort of dress her like Lydia Deetz in Beetlejuice with a large black sun hat (plus green tinted sunglasses) XD

  • Jooleeyuh's avatar
    Jooleeyuh
    Seasoned Ace
    10 months ago

    Related: I don't care for the "ew, the sun" moodlet that comes with the Macabre trait, as if spooky types can't love the outdoors and nature or appreciate what is naturally, genuinely bright and colorful...

  • HollownessDevour's avatar
    HollownessDevour
    Seasoned Ace
    10 months ago

    I think they are trying to use Mystical is "life focused" cause it is "nature" argument, but nature is destructive, dies and it's decay brings forth more life (which is more accurate). Making references to the cycle of "life" comes back to "death", which is how Macabre seems to be referenced in the game during Life & Death. And that is why I think Macabre works perfect with Mystical. In nature death brings life; life brings death—that is nature.

  • nyctalime's avatar
    nyctalime
    Seasoned Novice
    10 months ago

    Maybe I'm missing something, but I just don't see why they would conflict in the first place.

  • HollownessDevour's avatar
    HollownessDevour
    Seasoned Ace
    10 months ago

    I know I relate to this combo very much, in Sims 3 Brooding was the closest trait to describe me and in Sims 4 Mystical/Macabre combo does best.

  • Jooleeyuh's avatar
    Jooleeyuh
    Seasoned Ace
    10 months ago

    I could describe myself as a "Macabre Mystic" in real life.  Come on, EA: "gothic occultists" are so widely known to exist, we're a cliche!  I'd say most if not all religions--mainstream and esoteric--harmonize mysticism and death, so why this mass erasure?  I thought EA stood for representation?

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