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amjoie
Seasoned Ace
16 days ago
Status:
Multi Report

Noble sims will not completely delete

When I clicked on the Report A Bug button it gave me the Idea form, not the bug form, so I do not have the normal Bug questionnaire to fill out. 

I am playing on a Mac. This is a totally unmodded new game I just started to test this issue, which has never used any mods.

I placed a family of previously saved sims, two of whom were already Arch Dukes into a new world. The crown menu in the new world showed the Arch Dukes as nobles in the world. The game was saved in live mode.

I deleted the whole sim family while in the sims manager. The crown menu showed this:

 I saved in live mode, and exited the game. I opened the game again and navigated to the world. The crown menu showed this:

Adding the same family back into the world did not delete the llamacorns. It did add the new Arch Dukes, but the llamacorns remained.

I was able to start another new game and repeat this by following the same steps. The game will not allow for the complete deletion of noble sims. Something still persists. 

Even more troubling is what happens when you delete the sim who pulled the sword from the stone. Simcalibur is missing from the stone in the square. The sim who owned it is gone. The sword in their inventory is gone. The next sim to visit the stone is given a popup asking "Where is the Sword?" This is the answer:

Trying to reset the stone in debug does not change anything. Exiting the game and restarting shows the sword back in the stone in build buy, but sending a sim to the stone in live mode shows a missing sword. As far as I have been able to troubleshoot, NOTHING will bring the sword back into the game. And trying to add the same sim back into the game from the library does not work. The sim, even if saved with Simcalibur still in his inventory, or mounted on a wall in his house, is not recognized as the sim who pulled the sword from the stone. A mounted Simcalibur in a house is missing after the owner was deleted. So, again, something still persists.

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    amjoie
    Seasoned Ace
    16 days ago

    AND, I just discovered something else that happens when the owner of Simcalibur is deleted: The heir can take the throne, but if no heir was chosen, then the next Arch Duke noble is told that the title is exclusive and that they cannot advance, so from then on, NO KING in the game!

  • Wow, this is troubling. I was going to delete the sims in my main save, but I am so glad I haven't done that. I was unsure of all the play mechanics with the new R&L pack, so I started a new save and kept the orignal sims in the game even though I don't really like them. I'll try in a new save to simply evict them and see if that causes any problems. Hopefully eviction will be enough at the moment without breaking the save. 

    I haven't had a sim pull Simcalibur from the stone yet. I wonder if a sim pulls the sword, becomes Monarch, then eventually dies, what happens to the sword? Does it get passed on to their chosen hier? Or are there the same problems you mentioned happening, even with a chosen heir?

    Also, if the nobles in the game are evicted, can they still pull the sword and become monarch? Or do NPCs not get to pull the sword? Hopefully it's meant for only played sims so we can control that storyline.

    Thank you very much for this informative post. It has saved me my favorite game save. Really, a thousand thank yous!!! 💐✨👑

  • Status changed:
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    to
    Multi Report

    Going to mark this as Multi for now as there's two different scenarios described.

    Checking with a CM if this needs splitting up or if it's fine like this.

  • amjoie​ Could you create two separate threads for this ?

    One for the sword issue and the other for the sword issue and one for the scenario when you moved Sims to a new save and deleted

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