Re: Wraith is nerfed to DEATH!!!

@Whisp3rD34th
I honestly think wraith needs an entire overhaul..

1st the escape danger does take way to long to activate this should be almost instant as its an escape skill which means using it on low health which ultimately gets you killed waiting for it to work
2nd wraiths running is stupid she is not Naruto... if wraith is running towards you unaware of enemies it is all to easy to headshot because that's basically the only target you can see and with a +5% damage against her.
3rd what exactly is the point in a skill based shooter of having a passive that says she is harder to hit, how does that even work when adding the +5% damage against her? I mean if it was a turn based game with rng hit chance worked out by range and a shooter skill modifier sure wraith and lifeline next to each other and another character 20 feet away shooting at both, lifeline would be easier to hit by X% but in a real time fps where the aim is controlled by players and not rng this passive hard to hit thing is bs, players with bad aim are not missing because wraith is hard to hit but because they are not good at aiming, likewise players who can aim well will hit wraith regardless of the hard to hit passive.. if wraith was truly hard to hit she should receive less damage taken similar to gibby who is op to an absurd level... gibby with purple armour his arm shield and full health has 275 points of protection to deplete plus 15% damage reduction which puts him at around 315 damage before being knocked down that he can take but wraith who is apparently hard to hit takes extra damage and only has a 190 points before downed. obviously this is not exactly true because the health/shields are not being buffed/debuffed but weapons damage is but you get the point im making im sure..

@Sir_Named 

you seem to have misread what I was talking about in part..  I said "if" the game was a turn based game that used range and shooter skill rng chance to hit (think xcom style) it would be harder to hit wraith by X% over other characters..  but this is not that sort of game.

the fact is people with bad aim are going to miss wraith just because they are bad at aiming, and people with good aim will hit wraith regardless of the hard to hit passive.  she might be smaller but anyone who is good at aiming wont notice this supposed passive hard to hit due to being able to compensate for size of character. in all honesty I don't think wraith or wattson or the other low profile characters are any harder to hit than mirage or bloodhound or the other mid sized characters and in fact I think bangalore is harder to hit than the low profilers due to the double time skill bangalore has. the only real time low profilers are harder to hit is if and when they take cover, being that tiny bit better at hiding behind a rock 

you are right, I forgot that gibby arm shield was put back to 50.  

wraith is only warned when somebody "aims" at her just looking in her direction is not aiming.

You hear a spectral voice audibly warn you if:
An enemy is aiming at you
An enemy with a sniper rifle is aiming at you
A grenade is thrown at you
There are traps nearby
There are many enemies nearby
Many people have died near you

as for gibby he is by far the most op character ingame..  if wraith is hard to hit and takes 5% increased damage vs gibby who is easier to hit who takes 15% less damage (3 times more reduction than wraiths additional damage).. on top of this he gets an extra 50 shield points he also gets a dome shield to protect him and team aswell as increase the speed of healing and shield repairs and make revive faster. he can also call in bombardments  and is not effected by slow down like other characters when shot. this not only makes him a tank but a good healer support and offensive character, there is no other legend who is so multi role able. 

The only problem I see with wraith is that her tactical is too easy to spot (this is coming from someone who doesn't play wraith but someone who has fought against multiple wraiths and killed them).

They should honestly reduce the amount of time that there is a trail. For example, for half the duration wraith is in her tactical there's a trail, for the other half there's no trail. That way enemies can know the general direction, but not be able to predict where her tactical ends.

It's too easy to track down a wraith when she activates her tactical, at this point, her tactical is mainly used to escape damage and not the enemy; it just delays the inevitable.

@S8N_Spawn  I understand where you are coming from. In general the game just needs more legends to change the % on the pick rate. There is nothing we can really do about that. And a 5% damage intake increase vs a non or 15% damage reduction will make or break you in a lot of fights people underestimate that. Apply a -5% decrease vs no decrease vs. +15% increase to anything in the game or in life in general you will see a difference. Me personally, I don’t have a hard time hitting low profile characters And a lot of other players don’t. This is also based off skill level and situations in game.You got to remember wraith has already had nerfs on her tactical which made it slower and with a 35 second Cooldown. That is bigger than you know. On top of that you can see her trail, she can’t open doors and she moves the same speed in her tactical. Her tactical also has a delay which has gotten me killed many times due to the animation. And as for the aiming part I think that a lot of players who play wraith and path are good and strafing and dodge bullets. Don’t get me wrong their size does help but I think once again it’s based off skills. If a wraith is just running at me head on she is going to die but if she is moving left to right obviously it’s going to be hard to hit her. But she also takes less bullets to finish her. And there are ways they can make legends skills better to be on par with wraith and path. Once again you play a legend that you are good with. I know octanes,cryptos, Watsons, that can take out wraiths no problem because they know how to play around it. You can read the post I just gave to @Sir_Named @there are ways to buff the other legends to help with the pick rate issues and even the tactical aspect of the game. I appreciate your respond though and I do see where you’re coming from.💯

One last thing when wraith enters her void that means two things. Either she is in a bad position where she can lose a fight or she is near death and needs to retreat to avoid getting finished. There are many ways I can say how there are better ways to improve the game but it’s drawn out enough. On top of it the forum keeps deleting people’s post.

@NerfGameKillerRight! I've replied to your post 3 times, but it's removed before I finish every time. Just doing a quick one now to add to it in a minute.

And again, I do agree, buffing other legends is definitely a good move to try to equalize the usage rates, but no other legends abilities come close to what Wraith and Pathyboi provide so the only way to buff those other abilities enough would be to make them extremely OP and we'd be having this same discussion about nerfing that legend.

Look, the fact remains, Wraith is by far the most used legend, and it's not because she's the hottest (we'll see what the usage for Loba looks like when she comes out).  Her and Pathfinder are unquestionably the best legends in the game because of their entire kits (size, movement, abilities).  There is ZERO reason to not pick them (from a tactical perspective), the 5% damage increase doesn't matter when they're not getting hit (as much as other legends).  How's about this, take away low profile and make them the same hitbox and movement as Revenant/Mirage would that be too big of a nerf?

I play all legends, but have had some of my best games as Wraith and Pathfinder specifically because of their kits.

@S8N_Spawn @Pretzelnutcake @I agree with you pretzel.That wouldn’t work by taking away low profile that would mean they would have to resize the characters and change the values which could either take forever or mess up the game. I’m not mad about the low profile, its just them keep downgrading her skills. Yes she has a good tactile but it’s not overpowered. She can’t reload or heal in the void. I agree they are better then some other legends but other legends are getting buffed soon. Mirage just got a confirmed buff update and then it will be for some others. I just think it would be hard to establish a middle ground. I definitely think she doesn’t need anymore nerfs. I know the game is working from a marketing stand points but it’s almost how fortnite nerf some things because the casual players who weren’t as good were complaining. Which made then lose a good amount of the player base. Change isn’t always good but same can be said for no change. It would be nice to have a vote to see where most people stand on these topics and their skill level in the game.

@xx_Dante2k_xx Wraith mains don’t make up the whole community. Everyone was complaining about buffs when Gibby got buffed not just wraith mains. And not all wraith mains just use wraith. You are just putting wraith users into one category and assuming they all do or think the same things. If anything most people would be fine with other legends getting buff. 

He meant if the games aim was based on rng then

You cant be this stupid. She's awful now. Enlarged hit box, slow ult generation, 2 second delay on using wraith form, weapons take 2 seconds to be usable after coming out of wraith form. Only thing strong about her is tele use in rank. 

Are you insane?! tthat is stupidly powerful, that means anytime a wraith is low she can just leave,Plus the 5% extra damage is extremely helpful to anyone apposing wraith, you get rid of that and now shes an unstoppable force of mass destruction,

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