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Re: EA and Respawn, this is a big reason people are angry

@FanaticMind

I don't want to take anything away from whatever it is that infuriates people about this game. But skins? Cheating is rampant, no one plays on anything but a Smurf account anymore, and matchmaking is edging ever closer to being truly random, streamers and pros, even after five long years, still manage to find ways to make the game even more of a sewer than it already is, but we're upset about the cost of cosmetics that currently have zero gameplay value, and, in another few years when the servers go dark, will have no value of any kind whatsoever?????

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  • Zulkiers's avatar
    Zulkiers
    Seasoned Ace
    2 years ago
    @reconzero
    If they want this game to survive, they need to shut down the servers anytime there are hacks detected and cleanse the hackability from the game.
    Eventually everyone will be fed up with the hackers and even the hackers will be fed up with themselves for causing the game to get shut down.
    Once that happens, they'll quit buying hacks.
    Then people will quit making hacks.
    Because the game shutting down to cleanse the hacks will make that market useless.
    And the people using the hacks want to play, not wait eons for respawn to kill their hack and then bring the game back once the hacks are dead again.
  • reconzero's avatar
    reconzero
    Seasoned Ace
    2 years ago
    @Zulkiers

    "Once that happens, they'll quit buying hacks.
    Then people will quit making hacks."

    It can't be that easy.

    Can it???
  • Midnight9746's avatar
    Midnight9746
    Hero+
    2 years ago
    @reconzero @Zulkiers Let's say the servers keep closing when hacks are detected like how Valorant does it.

    It won't work.

    This is because cheaters will just keep on making new hacks everytime they get detected. This is why we still have a cheating problem in the first place. Even if EA/Respawn was 100% on top of the cheating problem, we would still see cheaters. We'd see a lot less than we currently see now, but we will still see cheaters because cheaters won't stop making new cheats.

    You got to remember that those who make the cheats make bank and I wouldn't be surprised if they make more than EA, Epic Games, Blizzard, etc. combined.
  • or just close servers to china , we can't play on their server why are they allowed on ours ? most cheater are from there

  • Midnight9746's avatar
    Midnight9746
    Hero+
    2 years ago

    @WTF_Huitzo We can still play on their servers, its just that no one in their right mind would. I tried playing on it a few times when ques in my region were slow, and I only saw bots or cheaters. None of the players I've had as teammates or as randoms were legit players.

    It was either someone standing still, punching the air or wall, someone moving like a clueless bot, or someone with cheats cranked up to what I'd like to call "yes please++". AKA, they were hacking so much, it was impossible to not notice them cheating. I saw the same player in the kill feed killing 20+ players. Granted most of the "players" were bots.

  • ComicBookGuy2727's avatar
    ComicBookGuy2727
    Seasoned Ace
    2 years ago

    There is just too much to mention in regards to animosity towards rEAspawn. 

    My biggest gripe is MM. 

    Not to take away from the massive surge of cheaters, smurfs, sad audio and many other unaddressed issues. 

    But I tried to play yesterday... I have played this game since beta and at one point my highest KD was 1.89 at its peak. It now sits at 0.4. Yes 0.4 and fluctuates between 0.4 and 0.6. 

    I feel personally a part of it is I don't play as much as I used to and there are alot of good players now. Kids seem to be much better now than back in my day. 

    Yet also due to massive amounts of cheaters and really really poor and pathetic Match Making. 

    I played 7 matches and not one lasted longer than one full minute. No joke, we timed them all. After the 7 match and being decimated and completely destroyed for all of them, the very next match the MM placed me in a lobby with champion squad - one with 51,000 kills, one with 36,000 kills and the third with 72,000 kills. LOL

    How is it possible to get destroyed for 7 straight matches with not one kill and no more than 500 damage in the 7 matches combined and actually watch the MM get tougher and tougher the more I lose. Only rEAspawn. Absolutely ridiculous!  

    Whats worse is with all the complaints across every platform, every server, every forum about busted MM, rEAspawn has not said a single word in regards to why its so busted... more than ever before, no acknowledgment, no explanation not even "hey we here you, we are looking into it."  NOTHING! Complete SILENCE, as if it works perfectly. 

      

  • Zulkiers's avatar
    Zulkiers
    Seasoned Ace
    2 years ago

    @ComicBookGuy2727
    Actually, I survive to top 5 most of the time. Then again, I'm a rat type.
    My main thing is bringing my allies back, be it as support class or as crypto.
    Done it a few times as Skirmisher (Valkyrie/Octane) but it doesn't work as well as support or crypto.
    Makes me wonder why crypto isnt support since the best way I can use him is banner retrieval and respawning.
    I can't hit the broadside of a barn in apex though.
    Although somehow I make 18+ kills per comp match in valorant.
    So I am confused.
    Average Apex Damage: 250. 0 kills. Sometimes a few assists, especially when I run spotter as crypto. 12 respawns. Best was 18 respawns in one life.

    Although, I much prefer it when my team isn't constantly dying. Means they are a good shot.

    One time, I actually had a team mate thank me for droning around as crypto and spotting the enemies. It allowed him a couple squad wipes.

    Maybe he saw how bad a shot I was and realized I'm much better as a drone? I don't know.

    Most people dis me being drone. One person actually argued with me about it, claiming I would have 1000% more damage output by shooting at the enemies.

    So I did that, utterly missed everyone somehow, and got one tapped by an SMG. Bro had to revive me, and that guy abandoned us.

    We ratted to 2nd place I think. Or we wiped out shortly after, I forget.

  • Midnight9746's avatar
    Midnight9746
    Hero+
    12 months ago
    @Zulkiers Crypto is a recon because of his kit, such as he can call out squads in the area with his passive and see the number of teams in the area on the map banners, while some Legends like Ash, Revenant, and Wraith would need to select the perk to do similar actions.

    Ash and Revenant's perk calls out nearby squads after a squad wipe, while Wraith's detects when others get within a certain distance from them.
  • @reconzero It's more the fact that it seems like all they do is shovel out $$$ skins/cosmetics and don't do anything but swim in their Olympic sized pools full of the money they make from all the people who buy it... I've also vented about how they need to do more, especially when they clearly have the money to do something, but servers are still the worst in the universe, cheating/hacking is still rampant, game is still a mess thanks to poor matchmaking/bugs/glitches/other problems that have never been tackled... You get the idea...
  • Zulkiers's avatar
    Zulkiers
    Seasoned Ace
    12 months ago

    @Midnight9746Even before that. Before the new Evo system. Back when the gold armor was a thing. I much preferred gold armor over red btw.
    Back then, he was pretty useless.
    The only squad callout was by drone view marking a flag, which some places you can't see a flag.
    I like the new version, anytime you enter or send out the drone get the notifier, that is nice.
    But the main way I use him is banner recovery and instant use of respawn beacons, whereas everyone else is 5-8 seconds (ground-MRB)

    A few years ago, when they gave crypto and ash free during the anniversary event, I was able to revive my allied lifeline while using drone view. Drone got shot then lifeline left, but I was able to attempt it.
    A couple weeks later, the drone could no longer revive in drone view, and still can't.
    If only they'd add something like that back.


    Idea: Partnership Upgrades:
    Each Legend has upgrades they offer to their allies, tailored to each ally.
    Lifeline could get a revive shield perk from NewCastle.
    People could get invisible revive and respawn from Mirage.
    Crypto could get drone view revive from lifeline.
    Crypto could get attack drone from Ballistic, allowing him to slot a third weapon, an unmodded sidearm, to use on his drone, using ammo from his inventory. This would disable the primary click cast ult and instead fire attached gun, using the normal ult cast button(s) to cast ultimate. PC = Z. You can naturally do that but most people like clicking to cast ult.
    From Bloodhound crypto could get a perk to change drone view click from ult to a recon dart that scans in an area around it, or revealing a directly hit target for a few seconds. This dart would have its own cooldown.
    As such, some perks cannot be used with each other, because of conflicts like that.
    Octane could get boosted revive speed from Lifeline.
    Etc.
    Got any other theoreticals?

  • Zulkiers's avatar
    Zulkiers
    Seasoned Ace
    12 months ago
    That anniversary event was the one during Vantage's season, because that's when I started playing this game.
  • Midnight9746's avatar
    Midnight9746
    Hero+
    12 months ago

    @Zulkiers The problem with getting perks based off of the other legends, (like Crypto being able to use his drone to revive when Lifeline is in the squad), would be the balancing and how many legend combinations there would be.

    In other words, Respawn would have to add a perk for each legend combination and then balance those combinations to where they're not overpowered. This isn't something I see them doing as they're still having issues with keeping the current abilities balanced.

    Keep in mind that the playerbase keeps coming up with a new meta, and Respawn then has to balance things to keep the game fresh. With Bloodhound and Bangalore, they both got nerfed to where they're not as useful together anymore, and using Alter's portal to avoid a Crypto drone EMP is no longer possible as teams in the ALGs used this to quickly push players without being slowed by their Crypto's drone.

  • ComicBookGuy2727's avatar
    ComicBookGuy2727
    Seasoned Ace
    12 months ago
    @Zulkiers I play as LL, and enjoy support the most. I'm not a killing machine but have found my place as a good support team member that can clutch from time to time.
    The guy that told you, you could have a 1000% more damage is probably the guy that would leave you behind for some extra damage stats. As well as someone that will bail on you the minute they realize their missing out on a little bit of damage. And as you stated... he did bail.
    Ego player.
    I have had the few matches playing with a good crypto player that knows how to use his kit and I tell you, makes a world of difference having one on the team, helping and looking out for their squad members.
    Kudos to you! : )
  • Zulkiers's avatar
    Zulkiers
    Seasoned Ace
    12 months ago
    @Midnight9746
    It would use the same skill system as we currently have. Gain a level, choose a perk.
    You would get extra options by having others in your squad.
  • Midnight9746's avatar
    Midnight9746
    Hero+
    12 months ago
    @Zulkiers The issue would still be balacing and the amount of perks they would need to add based on the number of combinations.

    Let's say there's only 10 legends.

    That's 9 different possible perks a player could get, (since they can't get one from themselves).

    Then if they could get a perk from both teammates that's 18 different possible perks a player could get, which then means there's multiple different combinations depending on the teammates a player gets.

    See what I mean here? There would be too much to consider and to balance out.
  • Zulkiers's avatar
    Zulkiers
    Seasoned Ace
    12 months ago
    @Midnight9746
    You have the current perk system.
    Add perks from teammates that you could choose.
    It's easy enough to balance just like the current system.
    I don't see the big issue.

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