Peacekeeper is the Strongest gun in the game is the most used gun on ranked, ALGS, and every single game, needs a small spawn rate, needs an ammo reduction to 3 or 4, spread increase by 40% while hipfire, ads stills the same, reduced damage by 1 in every pellet and remove one pellet, and remove choke.This is my own clip https://clips.twitch.tv/TardyCrazyWebFutureManTwo tap everyone should not be so easy with PK like in my Clip.Pk is a shotgun yeah, is supposed to be strong i get it, but this is a one life game, PK has no counter besides Mastiff and its a legendary weapon.

@Leo_the_Lion25Xbox S and X have 120hz option, but apex don't reach 120fps, barely touch de 59-60fps so that feature is useless, hope the next gen will use that feature properly, and apex on pc is not capped, I'm getting 190-200fps with rtx 2080super at 1440p, you only need to change vsync to 1/2adaptative, and that's how you unlock your framerate, on 1080p apex reach 240fps easy.

@audiofilomxWattson is so bad!! If she was good you'd be dead. You did 22 and then 68 damage and then a 3rd shot for the kill.She couldn't kill someone with 75 hp/shield lol and let you fire 3 TIMES with PK and she had Havoc which is very good now.Most fights happen at this range and believe me if you need to fire 3 shots with PK you are dead. A good R99/R301 player can knock you fast with one clip while you are still trying to fire your second PK shot.Also her teammates were aiming at Caustic so you got close and did good damage and also they didn't have 200 hp/shield so they got killed with 2 shots for sure.Peacekeeper is a very good early game weapon when no one has good shield but when you are up against a player with purple armor it might take you 3-4 shots or maybe 2 shots it really depends if you have choke and time to aim, if you are close to him and if your aim is good.That's why it's high risk high reward weapon.Mixed feelings, i'll have to play more with PK today and see how it goes.

I wouldn't say those players were bad. They were in a firefight, he was moving around a lot. There was lots of confusion going on and who to shoot etc. Its not like it was a 1v1. Regardless, look at how far he is and STILL doing that much damage with a SHOTGUN. HE DID 68 damage from miles away man! This gun is just * stupid.

Look, even in real world some weapons are better than others, and they are not the same.Previous nerfs already changed PK enough, you all talk about good shots, but seriously haven’t you ever experienced 8, 11 or 19 damage with PK before? It’s only a good weapon for very close range fight, don’t stick too close to enemies with PK and you can fight them back

@Alphabets Your solution is nonsense, you're saying never push if they have PK, so how you're going to win a fight? Close combat is essential in this game, if you want to only fight at mid range, its really hard to secure a kill, they can revive really easy, close combat is inevitable. PK is the king at close range, high level players don't land 11-8 shots pk is easy damage at low cost, needs a nerf.

4 Season and PK never Receive a proper nerf.

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SpyrosFPS
5 years ago
@audiofilomx
Wattson is so bad!! If she was good you'd be dead. You did 22 and then 68 damage and then a 3rd shot for the kill.
She couldn't kill someone with 75 hp/shield lol and let you fire 3 TIMES with PK and she had Havoc which is very good now.

Most fights happen at this range and believe me if you need to fire 3 shots with PK you are dead. A good R99/R301 player can knock you fast with one clip while you are still trying to fire your second PK shot.

Also her teammates were aiming at Caustic so you got close and did good damage and also they didn't have 200 hp/shield so they got killed with 2 shots for sure.

Peacekeeper is a very good early game weapon when no one has good shield but when you are up against a player with purple armor it might take you 3-4 shots or maybe 2 shots it really depends if you have choke and time to aim, if you are close to him and if your aim is good.
That's why it's high risk high reward weapon.

Mixed feelings, i'll have to play more with PK today and see how it goes.
audiofilomx
5 years ago
@SpyrosFPS The problem is that PK is not high risk, is low risk-high reward, that's the main issue, is like a Double Barrel Shotgun, but with 5 bullets, there's no risk in that, even a bad pk shot will give you 44-88 dmg, thats body-headshots wingman territory, PK is good at any moment, just see any Tournament with TSM, Liquid, Fnatic, etc, all teams have a PK, since the beginning of the game and in the final circle, Sentinels pro team complain on twitter that they don't qualify on Apex ALGS because they didn't find PK in most of their games, that's a problem, if a pro Team can't handle pro tournaments only because they didn't find a PK something is very bad with this Weapon.
SolitaryMassacr
5 years ago
I wouldn't say those players were bad. They were in a firefight, he was moving around a lot. There was lots of confusion going on and who to shoot etc. Its not like it was a 1v1.

Regardless, look at how far he is and STILL doing that much damage with a SHOTGUN. HE DID 68 damage from miles away man! This gun is just * stupid.
tyrali
5 years ago
dev keep doing nothing that weapon is jsut the top cancer weapon in the game it hit harder than a headshot with a sentinnel find the issue.... when you see competitive game its full pk r99
No weapon should be able to almost one shot (except kraber of course )with almost no risk ( too many ammo maybe reduce it to 2 ? )
Its really annoying to drop only to be 1v3 by a wraith or anyone else with simply a pk
Alphabets
5 years ago
Look, even in real world some weapons are better than others, and they are not the same.
Previous nerfs already changed PK enough, you all talk about good shots, but seriously haven’t you ever experienced 8, 11 or 19 damage with PK before? It’s only a good weapon for very close range fight, don’t stick too close to enemies with PK and you can fight them back
Leo_the_Lion25
5 years ago
@Alphabets PK can still hit you for 100 miles away with choke. Don't bring that close range weapon nonsense in a nerf pk thread.
audiofilomx
5 years ago
@Alphabets Your solution is nonsense, you're saying never push if they have PK, so how you're going to win a fight? Close combat is essential in this game, if you want to only fight at mid range, its really hard to secure a kill, they can revive really easy, close combat is inevitable. PK is the king at close range, high level players don't land 11-8 shots pk is easy damage at low cost, needs a nerf.
Alphabets
5 years ago
@audiofilomx As you said in your comment: "high level players don't land 11-8 shots", I strongly believe that it's a player that defines a weapon and a weapons might not be OP for everyone.

Even in your shared clip in your very first comment here, we can see you land 3 PK shots (out of 4 shots) on Watson and she couldn't hit you with a Havoc rifle and you use that as an evidence for OP PK... but honestly, he was a bad player and you played well, it wasn't a weapon.
While many asked for Havoc nerf right now, one can use the same clip to say Havoc is weak, but it is not the weapon... it's player and playing style.

Taking down someone with 4 PK shots out of 5, is exactly equal to using 24 flatline bullets out of 30 for taking down one player.
(Quick math: flatline does 19 body damage per bullet, so just 24 bullets will be 456 damage, which is actually enough to down 2 players with purple, is this OP too?)
reference: https://www.rockpapershotgun.com/2020/02/06/apex-legends-flatline-stats-dps-ttk-spray-pattern-vk-47-flatline-tips-2/
audiofilomx
5 years ago
The mechanics of PK are not the same than Flatline, or any other AR, smg and lmg with this guns you need a good angle, you need good recoil control, track people, sure, flatline is strong, but in real world you don't have that. At close range hipfire is not that accurate, to get that damage you need only headshots, that's impossible unless you're a cheater, you don't have that amount of damage secured with any AR, that's high risk high reward, PK is low Risk High reward, 110 is not even a headshot, is bodyshot, that and the easy mechanics to use it like the hide and peek using any object in the map gives PK the advantage in any situation.
PK needs an increase in the risk to use it, thats why I'm proposing reduce mag size to 2 or 3, and decrease damage by one and remove one pellet, that will obligate PK users to play smart and not only press W and run into people landing 110 shots like nothing.(like now).
Sir_Named
5 years ago
@audiofilomx Mleh, the pk is kind of inconsistent. You were hitting a bunch of 60-70 dmg shots and stuff, but you also hit quite a few 10-22s. (Whether that's because they were killing shots, I'm not sure. I don't think that's how it works, but you never know.)