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KrakaDrak
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7 months ago

A little rant about apex legends development and innovation

So apparently there is a “bug” right now where you can charge the Vantage sniper without an ult accel. This might sound overpowered, I wouldn’t know in BR because BR is boring as hell, so I only play the LTM deathmatch or control modes. You know, the ones with only two teams and no third-party nightmare.

Man, even explaining how I play the game already shines some light on how horribly the game is treated, the fact that Gun run and for a time Capture point was in the game with 4 team free for all was insane. How does this trash leave development, who in the world thinks 4 teams in an arena is fun?

Anyway, ignoring the glaring negligence of the developers and getting back into the topic at hand. The Vantage ultimate sniper can be charged without an ult accel. Of course, you might think “Damn so it must be OP right?” No, its not OP at all, its mildly worse than using a charged-up sentinel. And I know because I can now freely shoot the Vantage ultimate now without limited ammo.

Which reveals the next question, what is going on developers? Why add an ultimate to a legend, that doesn’t even impress? No, I am genuinely starting to get angry here, we have Marvels becoming more and more popular, changing the game for the better based on player feedback, AND a fresh flow of new content. And here we have apex legends with glaring problems with the game that have been a problem for almost years, without any basic fix or improvement, despite tons of player feedback. I’m talking about the player engagement SBMM ofcourse, and Straightshot, why is it not a permanent mode?

And then we have Vantage, with a lacking ultimate, that still disappoints. When are they going to increase the damage on the Vantage ultimate to acceptable levels? I’m talking values of 65 on the first shot, and 130 on the follow-up shot. The funny animation to charge up the sniper is cool, but it doesn’t make the gun any better at winning fights. And then we have the endless cycle of buffing large legends, making them OP, and then nerfing them again, resulting in them never being used as always. Without ever fixing the core problem, the huge hitbox or low fortified damage resistance.

I’m genuinely just tired, I’m tired of saying the same things over and over in the feedback posts and other games are just doing stuff better than the apex developers. I don’t know what is going on anymore at respawn studios. Maybe all they do now is count money. But man are they falling behind, apex legends had so much potential, the game had such a great start, but innovation seems to have left the company. And I can’t even bring myself to buy skins anymore, why? Because there is no hope, yes, the game does more balance changes more frequently and that is wonderful, but in the most important area’s it just stagnates, and it has been stagnating there for multiple seasons now.

Maybe those few Titanfall developers who left the company did actually carry apex legends. But that still doesn’t explain why the developers don’t more actively incorporate feedback from the players. I mean why isn’t Straightshot a permanent mode? Why is the SBMM still designed to artificially boost player engagement by letting skilled players stomp in noob lobbies? Why is Alter getting pointless buffs that won’t make her any more effective? For a season without a new fun character or weapon, it all feels too lacking. Because mark my words, give me one season to tweak all the number values on all the weapons and characters, in addition to the bulk data of winrates/pickrates in the different modes and I will significantly improve the game overnight.

No, actually, let me spell it out how to do that:

  1. Remove duos as a mode.
  2. Make Straight-shot a permanent mode.
  3. Take all the weapons that have a low win-rate in champion/predator and buff their damage by 1, every season until their win-rate reaches average levels.
  4. Take all the characters with a low win-rate in champion/predator and buff their abilities by simple number values until their win-rate reaches average levels.
  5. Take all the weapons that have a high win-rate in champion/predator and nerf their damage by 1, every season until their win-rate reaches average levels.
  6. Take all the characters with a high win-rate in champion/predator and nerf their abilities by simple number values until their win-rate reaches average levels.
  7. Remove player engagement SBMM.
  8. Replace SBMM with an MMR system that awards players for each kill/indirect kill, that is reduced with every death they suffer, then match people with the same MMR with one another.
  9. Make the Gun run LTM only have two teams.
  10. Add a powerful new legend or weapon to the game every few seasons, not a piece of trash like Alter that feels like the developers just said “yeah this legend has sufficient animations, lets puke it at the players just to meet a new content release quota.”

I apologise for my extremely vile and strong language, but I had so high hopes for apex legends, and while some things are getting much better like frequent balancing, the game evolves too slowly in a more innovating gaming industry. While most of the innovation in apex legends seems to be focussed on new skins and new ways to make skins even less affordable. While glaring issues with the game are left completely ignored for some strange reason. I’m not the only one with these concerns, look up online on anyone talking about apex legends and you’ll hear the same type of frustration.

And if EA is behind this, who only seek to stagnate the game and maximise profits, they might need to understand that things change quickly on the internet, and you don’t just make a successful game overnight, it’s a miracle apex legends was such a success, but if they treat it like a money printer, it WILL die, and die quickly too. Other game developers are learning from the failures of other games which will raise the bar, and within time apex legends will be bellow that bar and everyone will hop over to the new better BR game, and you can’t fix that anymore. Those fans are gone, they are never coming back.

Put yourself in the shoes of the overwatch developers, those customers who have left Overwatch for Marvels are gone. They are never coming back to overwatch. Why? Because Overwatch has devolved into a skin printing machine that doesn’t innovate, its management does not understand good gameplay anymore, there is simply no hope for the future. And the players understand that, despite how superior managers think they are, they cannot anticipate the behaviour of their own customers. If apex dies, let’s take a look at how much money EA loses, how much it will cost to make a new game, and then take into account that the new game might not even succeed.

If apex legends is the golden goose of EA, they should invest in it, instead of trying to squeeze it dry and neglect it. If the golden goose dies, it can’t be revived anymore, the pillars that built it have left the company, or the company no longer supports the infrastructure and leadership required to build a new golden goose. It is easier to stay ahead when you are ahead, then go back to square one and climb back up the ladder. The death of apex legends is a monumental threat to EA, and like Ubisoft, perhaps we will also see them fall, and everyone will be celebrating, because they did it all by themselves by ignoring everyone else. Their salvation was right in front of them, but maximizing short term profits was more desirable.

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  • @KrakaDrak
    Don't you dare suggest removing duos. It's literally the only one my brother will play with me, otherwise he leaves the game in its grave.

    The reason is because Respawn is owned by EA. Unless some other company with better customer support buys out Respawn and its games from EA, we're stuck with the grave.

    If RIOT Games had the money to do it, I'd say have them buy out Respawn and the Titanfall Franchise. EA is killing them.

    Respawn is dead to EA. We're lucky they still exist. They are just holding on to what little scraps they can to stay afloat. Abiding by EA style so they don't get their head chopped off. Price gouge, make junk, ignore the players. Can't wait for EA to be split and their way of doing things illegal. Then we will have the games good again. The only reason EA still exists is because they have money, and gouge money out of everything. If only the players would do to EA as they've done to Disney and quit cold turkey, drive down their income until they change their ways and restore good report with players. Unfortunately hackers are paying them truck loads to let them roam, and therefore the hackers own EA essentially. Unless you can outbid or somehow block the money of the hackers, EA is just gonna keep up their way. Has to be done legally.
    Better yet, if you can get your legislature to do something about EA, and convince nearby states to do the same, until all states make laws forcing entertainment companies to respect their customers, then when EA becomes more like Riot, we will have victory, and we will have good games again.
  • Fake_MRVNs's avatar
    Fake_MRVNs
    New Traveler
    6 months ago
    @Zulkiers
    Not only EA, but Respawn is part of what is ruining this game.

    For this game to get out of the grave, it needs to be bought or transferred to another company with better customer support and technical capabilities, not only from EA, but also from Respawn.

    EA is killing the game by only caring about their own wallets while Respawn is doing everything they can to kill the game.

    This means that even if a company with better customer support takes over Respawn, nothing will change fundamentally, and the company with better customer support will be left to deal with the complaints of users and the games they play due to Respawn's many dishonest responses to users and the games they play. The company with better customer support will be caught between user complaints and Respawn, and will become exhausted.

    EA will not let go of APEX, the goose that lays the golden egg, and Respawn will not be cut off from the development of this game.

    In other words, there is no future left for this game except to be relegated to the grave.

    It's a shame, but all we can do is hope for the best and we will be betrayed.
    The only sure thing we can do is not give them any more money and quietly watch this once glorious and glorious legacy of APEX rust and die.
  • Zulkiers's avatar
    Zulkiers
    Seasoned Ace
    6 months ago
    @Fake_MRVNs Respawn is what needs to be bought out. Not taken away from.
    They were originally good.
    When they got bought out by EA, that's when it went bad.
    I believe that if Respawn is bought out by some other company, let's say by Riot Games, then they will be free to return to their origins instead of being squashed under EA's boot.
    When Respawn gets separated from EA, they will be free to return to their origin, assuming the purchasers let them.
    If Riot is capable of doing so, they'd help Respawn bring it back to their original selves.
    The problem with how you want it done, is what's the use of buying a game without the manpower to run it? It will just die.
    If Respawn comes with it, then they maintain the manpower to keep the game running.
    If the original crew doesn't come with the game, then it won't be the same game.
    The new owners will change it, twist it, alter it, and it won't be the same, because the original visionaries aren't there to guide it.
    Hence the original Titanfall crew must be brought along with the Franchise, unless you want the game to go in a completely different Non-Titanfall direction. As a Titanfall fan, I will despise you for that. I want the Titanfall Franchise to remain true to its origins, not to be twisted into another Fortnite. Get what I mean?
  • Fake_MRVNs's avatar
    Fake_MRVNs
    New Traveler
    6 months ago

    @Zulkiers
    No, now Respawn can't produce any results at all even if they are acquired.
    Because the Respawn of today has been so poisoned by EA that the staff that created that once glorious era no longer exists.

    If they had just been acquired by EA, they would have been free to go back to their roots and make something better if they separated Respawn from EA.

    But now, Respawn has become so poisoned by EA's influence that taking it over will not bring back the spirit of the old days.

    If they truly want to continue the Titanfall franchise, it will have to be developed by people who once carried the spirit of the Titanfall franchise but have now left Respawn in disgust.

    A true Titanfall fan would know that, but you are the one who should be scorned for not being able to see beyond the surface and believing in the “EA is to blame” delusion of the community and calling me a “scorned” person.

    I'm just saying that a company that is passionate about the Titanfall franchise, with dedicated fans of the franchise, should take over the development of the game, rather than Respawn, which has become so poisoned by EA that it has completely forgotten its origins.

    Get what I mean?

    I liked Titanfall as much as the next guy, but I don't feel the passion and spirit that I used to feel from Titanfall, and I don't feel that the current Respawn can ever recapture the spirit of its origins.
    I feel like the current Respawn is just cutting and pasting what the old staff built and making it look like Titanfall.

  • Zulkiers's avatar
    Zulkiers
    Seasoned Ace
    6 months ago
    @Fake_MRVNs You do not understand how EA works do you?
    They are not poisoned.
    They are controlled.
    Don't you know how a government works over its cities? How much control they have over what they can or can't do?
    EA is money money money, everything they buy out is forced to do this.
    Nothing is ever bought from them because they charge trillions for such.
    If they could however, THEN the company could use its roots again, assuming the buyer lets them.
    Respawn is not poisoned, they are enthralled. They need to be released, not killed.
    When they are released, set free, they WILL return to their origins.
    Until then, they are controlled by EA.
  • EA_Mako's avatar
    EA_Mako
    Icon for Community Manager rankCommunity Manager
    6 months ago

    Folks, this thread is getting quite derailed and off-track and we've had to moderate a number of posts.

    Thread is being locked here, thanks for the feedback to those that kept it constructive.

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