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Fires004
Rising Novice
20 days ago

Alter buffs

Alter is a really cool and interesting legend, but not very good compared to all the others. Her ultimate is not good or interesting and her other abilities are very limited. I really hope, that you keep buffing her since her last buffs were very good, but she needs a lot more to be decent or strong.


Passive:

  • She can stab other legends from further away with her tail. (New)

Note: Would be cool if the tail did something.

  • She can see death boxes through walls, even after you looted them. (Change)

Note: It is very frustrating, that the loot box auras disappear after you picked something up.

  • She can steal everything out of loot boxes (even shields) and ammo or small heals can be taken unlimited from further away. (Change)

Note: Being able to only steal one item is not very good and then being limited is unnecessary. This season you gave Loba the ability to take ammo, small heals and player cards without consuming the 2 slots she has, please do this for Alter too.

Tactical:

  • She got two (was 1) charges.

Note: Too limited right now!

  • The portals activate a lot faster.

Note: She feels very slow in a fast game like apex legends and having to wait very long for being able to go into her portal, makes it not very useful to enter fights or escape them.

Ultimate:

Note: Her ultimate is very lackluster and boring. It only working as retreat point, that enemy players can follow to, is bad. There needs to be a way to teleport to more things, so you can use it to traverse the map.

  • Infinite (was 2 with a perk) numbers of ultimates can be placed at a time.
  • When the ultimates radius overlaps, they are connected to each other. This allows to teleport to other ultimates even when out of range as long as their radiuses overlap. (New)
  • You can teleport infinitely (was 1) to the teleport points.
  • Allows to teleport to ring consoles, scan beacons and loot drops (care packages) inside the range of the ultimate. (New)
  • Edit; When holding the square button (on ps5) to start the teleport to her ultimate, you can press R2 (on ps5), which cancels it, but teleports you in 30 seconds automatically to the ult thing. (New, kinda like old revernant ult)

Hopefully someone at respawn reads this and gives alter the buffs she deserves!

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  • Zulkiers's avatar
    Zulkiers
    14 days ago
    @Fires004
    Her tail is what shoots portals and allows her to steal items from deathboxes.
    You can already grab infinite supplies with her passive by being within deathbox looting range. Basically her passive removes all walls and stuff that would invade line of sight for looting, allowing her to loot infinite items through the wall or floor if she's within normal looting range. Outside that range but within 75m uses the usage and removes the highlight because she can't use the ranged charge anymore.

    I would like that perk to see deathboxes through walls regardless of ranged loot charge used. Maybe even continue to preview the loot it contains, like a Loba Ult with how it still shows you items but prevents looting if you've used up your charges.
    Would also probably reallow the through walls looting in close range since the deathboxes are visible even after ranged looting is used. That would be fun. Secondary Loba of sorts.

    Infinite ranged looting might still be OP. Even Loba Ult has limits.
    Plus its a passive ability, not an Ult, so it should have less power than an Ult.

    I agree with your thoughts on the tactical. Casting a portal on a portal should cancel as if they shot out of range or something.

    Ultimate:
    My thoughts
    - Infinite number of Ults would be cool. She'd become the Teletrouter Legend. Hope someone gets that reference.
    -- especially when combined with the radius linking thing.
    - Teleport Infinitely: Would have to be on a cooldown, like the user was Alter casting a portal. Otherwise could become OP. I'd also say in the Teletrouter Scenario, going to the pylon and then interacting would allow for teleport outside of cooldown without proccing cooldown. Escape would be on cooldown and send to the nearest one.
    - Consoles & Beacons: That would be very fun. But, as above you'd probably have to interact with the pylon itself to teleport to the consoles. They'd probably not allow the loot bins part though. I'd say also allow teleporting to replicators and respawn beacons.
    - If they do allow Teletroutering, they'd probably allow enemies to use it too as a counter, which would be saddening.
    - Allow the escape portion to sort of work like a Death Totem feature: When Escape is ready, when downed within a Ult radius immediately teleport to the nearest Ult totem.
    -- I loved Death Totem, but now it's gone and we have nothing similar. Hers is close but it lacks the save feature. Also the escape timer is difficult to use, it take 5 times as long to channel it than it does for them to smash your blue knockdown shield and erase you. If it either had no timer, granted a full coverage shield while channeling, or automatically teleported, it would be a little better. Still not quite as useful as Death Totem, but useful enough.
  • Fires004's avatar
    Fires004
    Rising Novice
    13 days ago

    Thanks for the reply I thought nobody is going to read it. Is there a quote function in this forum?

    “You can already grab infinite supplies with her passive by being within deathbox looting range”

    l actually didn’t know that.

    “lnfinite ranged looting might still be OP. Even Loba Ult has limits. Plus it’s a passive ability, not an Ult, so it should have less power than an Ult.”

    I only suggested being able to loot ammo, small heals and respawn cards infinitely from afar. Loba’s ult would still be a lot better since it has a bigger range, also covers the loot on ground and works for teammates as well.


    Ultimate:

    - I don’t think it would be OP to teleport as often as you want since it takes very long time to activate and enemies can follow very easily. But I guess a cooldown would be fine.

    - You probably wouldn’t need to go to her ultimate thing first if respawn allows us to use the mini map for selecting the scan beacons…. and loot drops and then teleport. 
    - I didn’t suggest to teleport to loot bins only loot drops (care packages).

    - “If they do allow Teletroutering, they'd probably allow enemies to use it too as a counter, which would be saddening“

    Allowing enemies to use your ult like they want would be stupid. I don’t think they would do something like that. You will just leave a rift behind like it is now, which enemies and teammates can follow.

    - Letting her ult work like a death totem would be so cool. I wished they didn’t remove it from revernant and kept the option to choose, which abilities you want. Same goes for lifeline. The loot drop was cooler and more useful than the shield bubble.

  • Midnight9746's avatar
    Midnight9746
    Hero
    13 days ago

    @Fires004 To quote a post click on "Reply" on the post you want to quote, (this doesn't work if you click on "Quick Reply"), and then look in the top right of the text box area. You should see the option to quote, which would look like this: Quote

    Here's an example of what a full quote of your reply would look like:

    Spoiler
    @Fires004 wrote:

    Thanks for the reply I thought nobody is going to read it. Is there a quote function in this forum?

    “You can already grab infinite supplies with her passive by being within deathbox looting range”

    l actually didn’t know that.

    “lnfinite ranged looting might still be OP. Even Loba Ult has limits. Plus it’s a passive ability, not an Ult, so it should have less power than an Ult.”

    I only suggested being able to loot ammo, small heals and respawn cards infinitely from afar. Loba’s ult would still be a lot better since it has a bigger range, also covers the loot on ground and works for teammates as well.


    Ultimate:

    - I don’t think it would be OP to teleport as often as you want since it takes very long time to activate and enemies can follow very easily. But I guess a cooldown would be fine.

    - You probably wouldn’t need to go to her ultimate thing first if respawn allows us to use the mini map for selecting the scan beacons…. and loot drops and then teleport. 
    - I didn’t suggest to teleport to loot bins only loot drops (care packages).

    - “If they do allow Teletroutering, they'd probably allow enemies to use it too as a counter, which would be saddening“

    Allowing enemies to use your ult like they want would be stupid. I don’t think they would do something like that. You will just leave a rift behind like it is now, which enemies and teammates can follow.

    - Letting her ult work like a death totem would be so cool. I wished they didn’t remove it from revernant and kept the option to choose, which abilities you want. Same goes for lifeline. The loot drop was cooler and more useful than the shield bubble.

    Otherwise you could remove what you're not quoting, like so:

    @Fires004 wrote:

    Thanks for the reply I thought nobody is going to read it. Is there a quote function in this forum?

    As for Alter, I do like her kit how it is, but I personally would like to see:

    - Tactical lasting longer
    - Two tactical charges
    - The ability to close the tactical portal behind you

  • Fires004's avatar
    Fires004
    Rising Novice
    4 days ago

    Midnight9746 lol they’ve reworked the forum. It looks completely different.

    Sorry for my late answer, I wasn’t able to log in until today.

    I like your suggestions, but don’t you think her ult is quite lackluster and bad?

  • SERPENT_DESCEND's avatar
    SERPENT_DESCEND
    Seasoned Ace
    4 days ago

    Some of these changes I agree with (like 2 tac charges and grabbing shields with her passive) but other then that a lot of those changes would make her frustrating to play against like the stabbing with her tail part and unlimited ults..

  • Midnight9746's avatar
    Midnight9746
    Hero
    4 days ago
    Fires004 wrote:

    lol they’ve reworked the forum. It looks completely different.

    Sorry for my late answer, I wasn’t able to log in until today.

    Yeah, there was a recent merge/switch from AHQ over to the new EA Forums. With this change, comes a lot of new features, (and also bugs), starting with quoting posts working a bit differently now. 

    To quote a post now, you'll click on "reply", (like before), and then you'll highlight the text you're wanting to quote. You should see a quote icon above the text you've highlighted, and you would then click on that quote icon.

    There's also a quote button in the toolbar, (below where you see bold, italic, etc.), but it can be a little tricky to use.

    Furthermore, if you can't quote a reply by highlighting the text itself, it may be due to an extension interfering with the page. (I had to disable a Text to Speech extension, as it was somehow blocking the quote icon from working).

    Fires004 wrote:

    I like your suggestions, but don’t you think her ult is quite lackluster and bad?

    Honestly, her ultimate is a little bit lacking. I wish it was quicker to use, (and was a bit easier to use, as at times it can be a bit difficult to find and enter the Void Nexus during a fight).

    However, with all things considered, her ultimate is basically an Ash ultimate that you can use at a much longer distance, (or kind of like Wraith ultimate, (if you have two thrown down)). So, other than being able to jump to the Void Nexus quicker, and being able to interact with it at any given moment, I'm not sure how else it could change for the better.

    Then again, if these changes were made, it would be a bit unbalanced as teams would be able to phase away almost instantly, (even when running away from the ultimate).

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