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PholanxTTV
5 years ago

Being Aped with 0 Consequence (Revenant is stupid)

Revenant is stupid.

His ultimate is not fun to play against. Give 3 enemies the ability to completely ape you with 0 consequence.

Things you can do with his ultimate.

Jump pad onto 3 enemies, Down one? keep going, kill more or die and respawn and try again because you still have full shield and only lost 50% health. 

Jump pad onto 3 enemies. Don't down one or didn't deal any damage? that's fine you don't have to go again because you are safe. 

3rd party without consequence. Deal your damage, kill or respawn in safety. 

3 different people with 300 combined health getting shot for full damage from 3 different angles for 30 seconds. You can still use grenades, you still use all your abilities, you can still use both guns. This essentially makes your team of 3 + 1.5.

IT'S OVER POWERED.

The only consequence this legend has is, if place it in a bad spot or another team happens to come along and camps your totem. But in late game that means nothing where everyone has their section of the zone.

"But they only have 100 health each" 100 health is a lot when there are 3 people shooting at you. while yes its only 100 health, you still only have 200/225 in late game.

And if coordinated well, that 300 turns into 750.

And now that you have buffed his climbing, given him 2 silences, given him an heirloom every Tom, * And Harry now uses him.

To be aped by 3 different teams of revenants in a row each waiting to 3rd party with their ultimate because they are too chicken to push without it.

If you foil their push THEY RUN AWAY. THEY DONT FIGHT. This promotes bad gameplay, its boring. Oh here's the revenant ult, we either beat them once and they run away, or they knock one of us and they go again.

Here's my Solution.

Don't give all team mates the ability to use the totem. Instead make it a Revenant only ultimate. Think of Phoenix from Valorant. He makes a personal totem, He keeps full shield, full health. if he dies he respawns with full health full shields and guns fully loaded. ONLY REVENANT.

This stops 3 people aping you with 0 consequence. Instead 2 team mates have a consequence if it doesn't go well, and that way only Revenant gets 2 tries giving him 400/450 combined total health. Essentially being a 4th team mate instead of being 1.5 team mates with 6 guns.

I am genuinely interested in all of your peoples feedback and opinions on this legend. I Personally hate it in its current state I think its beyond annoying and over powered.

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8 Replies

  • TheApexLegendNu's avatar
    TheApexLegendNu
    5 years ago

    @PholanxTTVI feel like they should not allow players to use jump pads while in shadow form, however this wouldn’t stop anyone from pushing with revenant and then jump padding onto you but then again it’s riskier because its usually easy to shoot players running towards you in shadow form

    they could also go as far as disabling abilities while in shadow form, Revenant could still use his climbing passive but thats about it and maybe his teammates could also temporarily be given the climbing passive

  • PholanxTTV's avatar
    PholanxTTV
    5 years ago

    Disabling abilities would be nice, but it still lets 3 people jump on you with 0 consequence. That's the one thing everyone hates. 3 people shouldn't be able to use it. It makes no sense. It is far too powerful of an ultimate to belong in this game. 

    It is much easier to kill shadows when they aren't using a jump pad or have to get somewhere high. So perhaps disabling jump pads is a good idea, or just overkill.

    Disabling abilities should have been done from the start. Its bad enough Revenant can silence you, but for him to do it in a dire time of need for you to use your abilities is far too powerful. If he wants to silence you, he would need to do it before and then go in with his ultimate.

  • xblackliight's avatar
    xblackliight
    Seasoned Traveler
    5 years ago
    @PholanxTTV Then it would be a 2 versus 3 essentially. My revenant teammate would essentially have been "cracked" while we go push a team minus them going down which makes me and my 2nd teammate kinda screwed. I propose giving revenant 35 health or they spawn back with 50% less shields. Maybe they cant use abilities instead.
  • Nightstick24's avatar
    Nightstick24
    5 years ago
    @PholanxTTV Rev's ult is a really hard one! I think if they gave way more of a warning of where the totem was, it'd be better. Killing the Shadows when they're running in on you isn't too hard if you know where they are and you're ready. The issue is, like you said, when you get jumped by 3 out of absolutely nowhere. You don't have time to get them, and 100 damage can be a lot when there's three out of nowhere trying to ram their EVA-8's down your throat.

    I think if there was a visual cue, someone suggested something like a Loba ult visual, and an auditory cue that a totem was placed that'd help. And I'd like to see people punished more for dying in the totem, to make pushing immediately after the totem rush a more risky strategy.

    If you've got red evo, even after you die and the totem takes 50 hp you've still got 175 with shields and hp, so it's like full blue and full health - there's no risk in pushing.
  • PholanxTTV's avatar
    PholanxTTV
    5 years ago

    Think of it like a bunch of Apes 🦍 going really aggressive, jumping on an enemy team with 1 thought. Attack. No plan. Just Attack.

    And with Revenant there is 0 risk in thinking like an Ape. You jump in and attack. If you die, you are safe.

  • PholanxTTV's avatar
    PholanxTTV
    5 years ago

    A visual cue is a bad idea. The majority of the time you see the team before the totem is placed so you know where they are coming from. The issue lies with 3 apes careening through the air from a jump pad. Gap closing what should be 10-15 seconds in only 3.

    And the reason a visual cue is a bad idea is because it doesn't do anything for the team that the Revenant is attacking.

    But it warrants a 3rd party from other teams in the area. A huge red explosion around the Totem in a 20-30 meter radius saying “COME HERE GUYS WE WILL RESPAWN HERE WITH 50% HP COME TO US”

    If anything they have to change it completely, stop 3 people from jumping on you with 0 risk. This is a battle royale, there needs to be risk and consequences for actions you do.

    Revenants right now is rewarding low risk gameplay. It needs to be changed for it to fit this game.

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