Good level design principle is that from the ground perspective (in FPS) the player should never be confused as to which direction they want to go in based upon the options they SEE.E-District shreds this principle by making everything look too similar. To start with, the following changes should be made:Those sections of the map that are for traversing should not look anything like buildings.Building that do not have loots should be EXTREMELY obvious they don't have loot, and I would say they should not look like building in any stretch of one's imagination.The vertical play is excellent, wouldn't change any of it.Bins can line the side walks or highway edges.Don't be afraid of replacing large dark grey structures (that have no doors or windows) with parks that include trees. I honestly think it would be better to have more open space to snipe across like in Kings Canyon.Make at least one more POI with several tall towers that each have 5+ levels to loot from and navigate through.To expand on the last point, the four purple flower towers are the best POI on the map. It is a shame that it is on the edge of the map. You could drop 8 teams there and the engagements would be wonderful. The cross patios between pairs of buildings, the looting both on ground floors and roof floors gives ample time to arm up and prep for engagement.I love the ship in the dock, but it doesn't ever seem to attract many people on initial drop. I would add more loot to it and build up the dock around it more with buildings and loot.Otherwise, apart from wondering which direction to go to get more loot, I am enjoying this map more and more.

1. everything is too far apart and disorganized. I have no idea where i am going since the walls and buildings are so tall. you can't see POI from the ground so you have to rely on the map but with so many divider walls blocking your path, getting around is a chore2. the loot pool is abysmal. there are literally blocks of space where there is zero loot. When i do find loot, its just mostly ammo. 25% of my games so far i can not find a backpack for the first 10 minutes. And then there it is difficult to find scopes, magazines, stocks, etc. since everything is so spaced far apart.3. this map is too big for 60 players. at the moment, we have revival which increases the population but i fear playing trios or quads would be worse here then on stormpoint4. the level design is also nonsense. there are basements, sub basements, rooftops, hidden tunnels, etc. I am constantly getting sniped from every which direction and i can't find back because i have one gun with no scope5. everything looks the same. especially since its night time. the POIs at olympus, broken moon, kings canyon all look different okay, not broken moon because they literally copied/paste everything. the POIs here look the same because it just looks liek you're in a city center. yeah one has a round building with cherry blossoms and another is a rectangular building. but i have no idea where i am most of the time.

I commented on the map, but I agree with many of your assessments after playing it more.The biggest problem with the map is that there are few very distinct locations, leaving much of the map using near identical structural assets. You can too easily get disoriented.I do like the zip lines between the roof tops, they make the map some what playable.But much of what you said is spot on.I think at this point the biggest problem I have is I can't find the weapons or the ammo I need, but for some odd reason, the other teams can??

Hey Randoms,Dev Team, nice job and thanks for the map. I have the feeling that there is not enough LOOT, is it just me ?!Cheers

" District contains the most loot of any map by far. "This may be factually true, but it is also true that this map is bigger than others and the density of loot per square meter is probably just the same or a little less.But this isn't the problem. It is FINDING the loot that people have trouble with.Too many structures give the mis-impression that they will have loot, just to disappoint players and thus give the impression the map lacks loot.To be clear, the problem isn't so much lacking loot, but lacking loot upon dropping anywhere you think there will be loot ON AVERAGE. The four purple flower building section is the only one I know LOADED to the teeth with loot on multiple floor in all four buildings. I go there so I don't spend much time looting before my first engagement. I can't say that about anywhere else.

E-District should go back for major edits

28 Replies

whatsthefakk
New Traveler
12 months ago
Hey Randoms,
Dev Team, nice job and thanks for the map. I have the feeling that there is not enough LOOT, is it just me ?!
Cheers
BPoff71
New Adventurer
12 months ago
No where near enough loot. Spending too much time looting and not enough time fighting. 5 minutes into a game and I have an Eva-8 with 20 rounds, a P2020 with about the same and a couple heals. Need more zip lines too, takes to long to go around and climb up.
huyness6
Rising Veteran
12 months ago
1. everything is too far apart and disorganized. I have no idea where i am going since the walls and buildings are so tall. you can't see POI from the ground so you have to rely on the map but with so many divider walls blocking your path, getting around is a chore
2. the loot pool is abysmal. there are literally blocks of space where there is zero loot. When i do find loot, its just mostly ammo. 25% of my games so far i can not find a backpack for the first 10 minutes. And then there it is difficult to find scopes, magazines, stocks, etc. since everything is so spaced far apart.
3. this map is too big for 60 players. at the moment, we have revival which increases the population but i fear playing trios or quads would be worse here then on stormpoint
4. the level design is also nonsense. there are basements, sub basements, rooftops, hidden tunnels, etc. I am constantly getting sniped from every which direction and i can't find back because i have one gun with no scope
5. everything looks the same. especially since its night time. the POIs at olympus, broken moon, kings canyon all look different okay, not broken moon because they literally copied/paste everything. the POIs here look the same because it just looks liek you're in a city center. yeah one has a round building with cherry blossoms and another is a rectangular building. but i have no idea where i am most of the time.
ComicBookGuy2727
Seasoned Ace
12 months ago
Where's the loot!?
MrGreenWithAGun
New Ace
12 months ago
I commented on the map, but I agree with many of your assessments after playing it more.
The biggest problem with the map is that there are few very distinct locations, leaving much of the map using near identical structural assets. You can too easily get disoriented.
I do like the zip lines between the roof tops, they make the map some what playable.
But much of what you said is spot on.
I think at this point the biggest problem I have is I can't find the weapons or the ammo I need, but for some odd reason, the other teams can??
reconzero
Seasoned Ace
12 months ago
@whatsthefakk

No there is not enough loot for normal players. Predators, however, need nothing but a Mozambique and a scope. And they don't really even need the scope. So the entire Revival game mode coupled with the hideous lack of loot is just a love letter to the 5%. The rest of us are here to be farmed. Thank the Apex gods for Bot Royale. No cheaters, no bad matchmaking, no lack of loot... just easy targets to shoot at until you inevitably win. Probably not to everyone's liking, but I like it a lot.
cookie3298
12 months ago
Strong agree on all points.
W3stminst3r
Seasoned Ace
12 months ago
First impression: Visually not too bad but rather poorly thought-out which results in chaotic gameplay.

The various POIs all look quite similar - the individual features are missing.
There are some jump pads but no vehicles (at least I haven't found any yet) and no balloons?!
This makes the map feel large and players quickly become disorientated when not using the mini map.
I usually get used to new maps after about one week of playing Apex.
That's the ammount of time, which I will also give "the district" before drawing a final conclusion.
MrGreenWithAGun
New Ace
12 months ago
I agree that there isn't near enough loot, but more importantly, it isn't clear where the loot is at.
The four tall towers with the bright purple flowers are full of loot, and have many floors to them. This is my go to landing site now.
Too many locations from the air look like they should have something but have nothing but long pathings at various levels.
This map lacks the obvious "open space that is void of loot" as it is cluttered with back to back structures.
There are too many structures that give the false impression you can enter them.
EDIT: Honestly I am getting to enjoy this map the more I learn where to drop and where to avoid. And I suspect I have only learned 1/3 of the good loot locations at this point.
BigMacAttack8u
Seasoned Ace
12 months ago
There are many complaints of the lack of loot on the District map. Wile your feelings are valid, and partially correct, they are factually wrong. District contains the most loot of any map by far. District has 6185 loot spawning areas. However, it may feel like less loot given that it has the least supply bins of any map (503). I assure you if you survive to the second ring where loot is refilled, you will have fully kitted guns.
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